Heard they were kicking up a lot to the Bonnanos, any truth to this?

Where did you see there was an oxy bust?

who in bonnano

Maybe. Maybe it's just this group of Italians whom had created a mini drug ring.

There is barely any "oxy"=(30mg roxicodone) on the street anymore. And if you can find it , its selling for close to 30 bucks a pill. The other thing I've heard is that they changed them so they can't be crushed anymore.

Most everyone that did them in the "wild west" days either snorted or shot them (back then for 6$ apice). Now they are either putting latex though the entire pill or tons of fillers (they've also done that to dilaudid) so you can't snort or shoot them, only drop them.

This is why heroin is making such a huge comeback.


Sal

As for now the blues (30mg oxycodones) are fine. I get a prescription monthly... so far it's still the only oxy pill that's pure that if you're a sick fuck you can still crush them, snort them. Shoot them or smoke them.. any sick twisted way the junkie wants it.. I'm curious as to when they're going to turn these pills into "abuse proof" like they did with the OC's. All I know is when Perdue pharma switches that formula that company most has lost millions its first day of the compound change.. I dunno if feel like with the oxycodone 30s they almost have to keep them on th market. It's truly the last junkie friendly instant release oxycodone pill in existence..

I'm pretty cut throats and think pretty much anything that goes on in the streets is all fair game.. but more and more recently I've really have a problem with the selling of opiates... it's fucking up too many people . Especially young kids.. and for CN I feel it's also bad cause I can bet 8/10 of the guys in crews who start selling Oxys end up usIng them also. Turn a solid crew of young guys who had some shy going on .. a half sheet and maybe selling some pounds of weed.. .. they start selling oxy or dope and then you get a crew of dope sick fiends.

Sorry for the rant

Oxys are out right now since they changed the compound, basic pills like Percs or Norco are still around but not in high demand like the old OC 80s. Opana is the new thing. Mainly people are either switching back to heroin or went the other way and are on Tex(Subutex) Fentanyl patches are around every now and again. You can chew on a 50 microgram patch for a few days.

No blues around your area? 30mg pure oxycodone? It's what everyone went to right after they made the oc's abuse proof. The blues I'm talking about are still in the streets and you can abuse them every which way you please

not from the indictment. just seems like a few ex cons.

I don't use oxys anymore , I haven't for years. But let me tell you that is one hell of an addicton. Especially when you have a Dr. writing you 300 a month plus.

Your whole life revolves around two people, your Dr. and your Drug store connection.Your "buddy" at the pharmacy that you go to.

If you could, and I'm saying again IF YOU COULD find a Dr. in South Florida to write you "blues" good luck trying to get them filled. There isn't a pharmacy in the tri county area that will say they carry them.

The only people getting them these days are a few long time patients and they are limited to 140 a month.

See if you can believe the Doctor that I had....

I was getting 240 30mg oxys (blues) a month
180 15mg oxys (same as above but green half strength) a month
90 2mg xanax a month
and 60 30mg morphine sulphate tabs a month
plus 10 50mcg Fentanyl patches a month.

I only had one Dr. I had friends who were going to two or three dr.'s a month and selling off their extras.

There was a time around 1998-2001 were you could throw a rock on Commercial blvd and it would hit a pain clinic in every direction.
These places had their own portable MRI machines in the back parking lot so for 99$ you could get your MRI.

When you'd go to these places all you would see were out of town plates from Georgia , Arkansas, No. and So. Carolina etc.

This town was crazy, EVERYBODY was taking that shit. And People do what they always do....they burned it down.

Now a Vicodin #5 is a schedule 2 class narcotic. What a joke 5 mgs of hydrocodone and 500 mgs of TYLENOL (great for the liver) and its right up there with dilaudid, and fentanyl (gimme a break)

I'm sorry I ever got involved with that shit. But now the very same doctors who turned everybody into stone junkies are now in the out patient detox business. So they got rich both ways...hooking you and un-hooking you. Fuckers should all be in jail.

Sal

What's going on Sal!

Again we agree.

Finding that doctor (mine was in fort lee nj) was the worst thing that ever happened to me...

My ex and I were getting 180 blues 180 vike tens and 90 Xanax bars a month ... at the time the two times a month we went was like Christmas morning when your 7.

But I feel like getting off blues was worse physically then actual dope.

The government is so dumb.... the opiate pills were such an "epidemic" they made them impossible to get and what they thought everyone that was using them was just going to magically stop... the heroin epidemic was caused by the government creating those databases so people couldn't doctor shop and made it harder for doctors to write them.

Of course they had to do something but anyone with half a brain knew 99% of the pill head junkies were going to turn into dope heads.

Where do you live Salvi? I used to get 180 30mg blues a month from my old dr, before he began doing bullshit, got a promotion and began ignoring me completely. I've since gotten a new pain dr. And I get 90 of them every two weeks and its proven to be better for me. The blues are still the same, they havent done what they did to OxyContins to them, YET (hopefully no time soon), and the pills can still be crushed and snorted for quicker effect, if you're into that. And on the street they're still in high demand, and yes, 30 bucks a pill is about right, but people cant afford that so most dealers would let them go for about 18-20 bucks a pop. And I'm in NY.

And I definitely agree on the whole detox thing.

Seems like a couple italian celles who got out and started a little ring surprisingly no Dominican. Or he got busted and it didnt look good in the press realeases so ue was arraigned in a different court room. Methadone clinics must be dying cause now every docotors office is prescribing there own suxbuxon scripts. Its all money to these mofos. And been reading the papers around mass all the fentanyl there cutting into the dope is coming from china not mexico. Or maybe its shipped to mexico then brought here. I glad i got of the pills now 2 yrs. The club scence went from x to dope wat a waste. Now my little 16 cousins are popping Xanax and wat ever opiate they can find. Fucked.

Cia governments control this. Lol. It is hard to find percs today more of the wons Dominicans from washington heights make with there press machines and drive them up 95. Salvis rite dope has made a huge comeback but its not you mom n dads herion it comes from the south not the east.

These guys were almost certainly approached by various guys for protection as stated island still has that type of atmosphere and given the crime it's almost certainly Bonnano crews as they are all over SI , getting into these lil drug markets

Looks like they were doing about 900-1000 pills a month . Somewhat surprising but SI still has docs that will write these scripts . The distributors were probably whacking up $12-$15K a month.

Can't believe they were so open on the phone like that , pure lazy as it's not needed, you work out the routine in person with shit like this

I'm being totally honest here....

I've been in this game a very long time, and in many ways its come close to really fucking up my life. There are no positives unless they make some major legal changes. All you wind up doing is spending all your money and trying to get off sick. Its a really shit way to live.

I don't use on a daily basis anymore, but I just can't get the shit out of my "mind". As a famous junkie once said "they can get it out of your blood, but not out of your mind".

Also, the civilians out there should know this. NOBODY EVER QUITS on the FIRST TRY. Its a process, for some it takes years to really quit. Opiates are like the genie in the bottle, very easy to take the cork out , but next to impossible to get back in.

For the record, I HATE all the subs (suboxone, subutex) I've had my dance with those. I would never use methadone (liquid handcuffs)

Like I said, I'm gonna be honest here. My friends "cat" will "chip" maybe once every ten days to two weeks. My friends "cat" knows a guy in his 80's who has been at this a long time so his cat does not have to worry about fentanyl. The stuff the cat gets is the real deal. But there is plenty of cheap fentanyl laced H all over this area. If the cat uses it all up in 8 to 12 hours he will not catch a habit.The cat will only get a little sick for a couple of days.

I truly believe if they could put every senator and congressman into withdrawal for just 4 hours the drug laws would relax drastically in this country.

The amazing thing to me is that I've run into people who could take it or leave it. I truly think there are those who are just very easily addicted, and love it much more than the average person. I know people that wouldn't leave their house if they were giving it away free across the street. And then as William Burroughs said there are people who will "crawl through the sewer on broken glass" for it.

Something has got to change in this country. Its getting worse, not better. The more they make drugs hard to get the more kids want them. They have de-criminalized all drugs in Portugal. Maybe we should think about something like that.

All I can say is things have never been this fucked up......

Sal

None of those around North MS I can tell you that much. Mainly Opana,Percs, Norcos, Fent patches. No heroin in North MS. Mostly it's subutex. The rest of people on drugs are meth heads with crack still the main drug in black communities. That being said opioid dependency is growing in the black communities in North MS. Not many do meth though, they'll sell it, but not do it.

The Calabrias were close to Anthony Urban, a Bonanno associate, so I am thinking they may be on record with Anthony Santoro, a Bonanno soldier who I believe is still locked up from a few years ago.

Blues are all over the tri state area. Not sure where the idea that you can't get them around here comes from. $30 is correct.

You the hit nail on the head but heroin is here in North MS. Mainly the Memphis metro area obviously and a few people od on heroin in Tupelo recently.

Maybe that's the case. I really am not into that scene anymore I stopped doing pain pills back in 08. I'm about an hour North of Tupelo and haven't seen any heroin cases in the Booneville papers. Could be out there but most of my time is spent at work. Im not a dealer or a junkie.

Being on pain pills doesn't necessarily make you a junkie. Of course, there are legitimate purposes most have for using them. But when you're using them in prolonged usage, it becomes very hard to get off. I'm sure you understand all this Yates, I'm just saying this for general purposes.

In regards to comment on Florida - I had a friend with family out there and they were extremely easy to get and very very cheap. He had them sent up here and this was about 8 years ago give or take a year. I hate to say it but it's a lucrative business. On the other hand you're ruining lives but that comes with the territory obviously. He recently finished up a little stint upstate which is another reason to steer clear of the business. If it was bud then you would be looking at probation.

In regards to the amount of meds you were getting a month... WOW!

Edit: What's with the homemade zan bars going around. I've been around and this shocked me. The ingredients, presses and stamps (both on ebay) all a click away. SCARY!

I knew a Woman who had like four doctors. Besides being a very heavy user herself, she used to send them to her cousin in Boston.

She would send the old style 80's up there and make a small fortune. She would go to the drugstore and find anything that came in an older style "metal" tube. She would either cut or just unroll the end of the tube, scoop all the "Desitin" or the "Whites A&D Ointment" or some way off the market tooth paste and just fill the tube up with those 80's.

She never got caught but it might have just been good luck on her part, but she claimed that the x-ray scanners couldn't see what was "inside" a metal tube. Also they were very easy to get without creating suspicion, and very easy to re-crimp the ends back to look like they were factory sealed.

She had full disability insurance so she got these 80's totally free. In Boston they were going for 70-85$ at the time.

Between all her wheeling and dealing she was making around 8000.00 a month!!!

Drugs are no different than any other business (less the deadly violence) Its all about how good and reliable your connects are.

Sal

I do remember the 80's going around and they were sending them up very similar to that. Unbelievable what these Docs were and are doing but that's the name of the game. It's legal drug business. I never got into it because I was making way more with the high grade. Run ended 5 years ago but back then you had to know a guy in Cali and get it shipped over directly if you wanted the medical cheap. I won't say how we had it shipped because they're probably still doing it but I was bringing in 15-20 large a month. Not bad for being early 20's. Unfortunately it ended how most of these stories end and that's with rats and Feds.