I've been thinking, he's had a pretty good run, he's made his way up the ladder and hardly spent any time in jail. From what I could tell, maybe a year to 18 months in 2008 and 2009 and that's about it. It also doesn't appear that law enforcement is up his butt.

Its interesting to see if he can be the next biggest boss after "the chin" and gotti.

They will be all over him, he's just clearly a smart/lowkey guy

The question is if he will be able to run the gambinos the right and the smart way as the way he handle his crew as capo, and as serving as an underboss.

Does Bellomo have a chance for that title too? Seems like he is highly respected with a lot of power right now.

Barney Bellomo is the top mobster in America right now...

What about cali ? You have to agree that cali is big too...
Not to mention that he have great connections in italy

There's not even enough known about Frank Cali to call him the top mobster in America.

I think he will be

Bellomo's got his legitimate businesses, he's low key and evaded being known as Boss for a very long time he's gonna make us believe there is no more Mafia one day

The guy barney was made 20 before him and since chin was a violent guy personally killing guys or shooting i think he would have made barney do the same to tap him as acting boss in 1990 before cali was made. And just from reading seems theres no histroy of violence with him or hed be in jail lot more. I think theres plenty of other mobster in his own family alot stronger. In bk you have the whole persico clan who probaly dont see him as there equal. All guesses.

I think Cali is more Powerful than Bellomo, he has many contacts to italy and sicily, many Drug contacts the big business in the mafia and OC world.

I think also the Gambino Mafia Family (not gotti and his guys... guys like thommy gambino and other old shool gambinos in the business) is more powerful than the Genovese. More Drugs, more legitime. The Genovese maybe in america big but thats all. Maybe not even in america

The Genovese grossly overestimated.

And Low key also no argument for me, bellomo lives in a mansion thats not low key.

Someone of you have see the house of bellomo?

Regards

I have not. Photo? Bellomo might be able to pull off the mansion without as much attention because of all of his legit businesses like the real estate. Just a thought.

I think theres no chance hes even boss. So were thinking all the original cherry hill gambinos corrozos even marino dont want the yop spot and are gonna answer to a young man who was made in the late 90tys. I read 1996 somewhere just hard to believe. And no boss of the other familys crea barney andy russo give a fuck about international drug contacts they want the union and dumps and gambling millions that arnt nearly that bad when the shit goes bad.

You have no idea how he's perceived by powerful members of the Gambino family, he wouldn't be underboss/acting boss if nobody thought anything of him. Lorenzo Maninno was made in 2004/5 when he got out of prison, yet he is captain of 18th ave, the power base of the family and some think he is consigliere, doesn't matter when a person was made, even then Cali has been made 20 fucking years, not like he just got his button. Cefalu got his button in the early 90;s, yet he was boss, matty Madonna was made a year before Cali, need i go on?

Bellomo was in his 30's when he became acting boss, yet older, powerful captains still answered to him.

I think John Gambino is boss, but that's just pure speculation.

Yaeh ya rite about the age and the guy has been made for over 20yrs sometimes i forget the 90tys were so long ago. Think in my head is a new way of my thinking pre 9/11 or after. But that shit about international drug contacts means shit to guys like barney who at one time ran the javitts center and crea and them building sky scrapers. Or just skimming money from all there semi legit rackets like dump routes and fees. Theres probaly a 21 yr old kid from dominican republic in a sec 8 apArtment in washington heights moving more kilos of coke then a guy in the gambino family or hes thr one selling it to them. Its there game n racket. But i wkuld bet the gottis except for jr whose shelved have some type of power theres atleast 6 or more of them made never mind there cousins and best friends. Why aould all the old timers surport cali? Ya i also think john gambinl or celfuo the boss. Just a guess

Why would they support Cefalu? He didnt come from a strong crew, he ran Patys Conte's old crew which had a couple of old time zips.See where I'm going with this? Cali ran 18th ave, the power base of the family for years. Who knows how any of these people are thought of in the family. The Gotti's have no power, only one worth anything in that family is Gene and he's going to have to answer to Cesare Gurino by the sounds of things

Look what the drug dealing has down to the rizzuto crew or family they all been slaughtered theres nothing left to go on. I read somewhere chin called massino in the 80tys to his triangle club and massino tried to go in with george s . They wouldnt even let him in the club cause of his drugs dealing. Just look at tye recent genovese turncoat who recored merlino and all them guys. He fliped cause of drugs. Bet any boss worth a dime wont let a drug guy near them. Back in the 80tys they had the herion pipeline today the spanish do. What makes people on the board think cali would throw all his legit shit out to make money on drugs probaly is dead set against. Hes got way to much to lose might be a reason he is high up cause hes a good biznes man.

Dunno, maybe the fact that it's factual he has been seen multiple times meeting with important Sicilian mafioso, what do you think there talking about, football?

I'm not sure the Gambino's care about what the other bosses think, why would they? Like you said this ain't the 80's when they had a commission

Here one articel about Frank Cali. A rich and Powerful Man, i think he is a lot bigger than Bellomo. And also bigger than every other guy from the genovese crime family.

But this is only one guy.. the gambinos have the richest and most legitim members from all new york familys.

The genovese guys all in to old age make his hands dirty thats one reason why a lot of people think he are the strongest..

many gambinos are legitim and not in the news papers, john gambino and many others.

Thats the real big guys in the new york mafia world. With contacts around the world, the genovese thing is only a new york new jersey and east coast thing and in this area also the gambinos stronger i think.

What you think Guys?

https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130718/little-italy/mob-pick-for-gambino-godfather-turns-down-job

In a way it's the way you look at things....

The Feds say the Genovese are the Ivy League and top OC group and he is the boss.

So Barney needs to be near the top of course. I have also read he has many legitimate streams of income that make him legitimately wealthy so he has to be near the top. And the Chin who many regard as one of the best bosses after the rico act picked him so i am sure he is a powerful guy..

But it is a secret organization so we really don't know.

And hearing some of the numbers thrown around in Gomorroah and about the cartels it is possible that a guy big in the drug business would have tons of $ and with that power...

But drugs are a tricky thing and things can come crashing down very quickly as we have seen in Canada...

I am sure the Gen Gam and Luchs all have some pretty powerful and heavy guys but in my opinion it would be tough to say who is the "most powerful" and besides that how do you define power???

Is being able to shutdown a $20M construction site more powerful then being able to get shipment of drugs from Italy?

I don't know??

Barney doesnt live in a mansion and he is very low key. If you didn't know him you would never know he does nothing that is stereotypical. In the articles of recent that's says where he lives are wrong.

A man's wealth doesn't always determine his position in his family. Also, unless you yourself are in the Genovese family how can you say whether or not they have international contacts be it drug related or other business? The feds' "Ivy league" comment about the Genovese family is from years ago, far from recent. Not saying it can't be true today, but you can't go off information stated in documentaries and whatnot from 5-10+ yrs ago. Frank Cali and Barney Bellomo, if they aren't at the top of their respective families, these two are as heavy as it gets without being the actual boss, and they strike me as the types to let someone else have the boss target on their back while they pull the strings from where they feel safe.

His business interests are impressive for example they deal directly with the Swiss multinational Nestlé.

Not questioning you, but want to know more. Source?

We all now that cali have connections in italy...

The book Mafia Export. Besides about 10 construction firms I counted at least 8 trading businesses and there was Nino's Pizza in Brooklyn, which is now closed. They were also the exclusive importers of Buitoni pasta owned by Nestlé.

No, you don't "know" anything. You're just going off of what has been written about in the VERY FEW articles his name pops up in.

Yes.

And Btw you have no idea what i know or not.
And yes in this case all i know about cali is from the a few articles.