So you USED to be around DYKER. so is Asian immigrant Wang Chung. You obviously don't live there anymore and don't know firsthand. What credibility do you have? Not asking in a condescending tone I am just asking how you would know what clubs are mobbed up? You have friends in the life? Just asking because I don't know. I mean, if you're a Somali refugee I'm not taking much of what you say to the bank.

Yes, I'm a Somali refugee. You've got me Yates. I never even saw a wiseguy in real life, and everything i know about the mob i learned by watching the Godfather. Or was it Goodfellas? It was one of those movies about the eyetalians, anyway

I'll have to defer to experts like yourself on such matters. I'm sure you have much first hand experience, with many friends and family 'in the life', and have much to teach me.


Believe me, or don't believe me. I'm not invested either way.

the gravy people lost the war.

The club im referring to iis right near the corner of 72nd and 20av, i said 19 before but i just looked it up...on the corner where laundry is and cafe romeo is down the street. its very obvious, i used to see vinny tv outside there, hes a bonanno boss..everyone who goes in there is right out of the movies. Most of the neighborhood is asian and post soviet immigrants. Bensonhurst sucks though shitty place to rent and live if you dont have a family to raise

Cafe Romeo is another hot spot, a lot of Colombo guys. Cafe Sorrento on 18th ave between 78 & 79th street is a major Gambino spot (Sicilians). There is a social club with no name about a block n a half away from sorrento,Gambinos ! Anyway, I have some time this weekend and I'll try and get some info on some of the Brooklyn Genovese guys. I know Allen Baldy Lingo and Allie Shades social club is still open on Carroll street on Carroll Gardens I think off 4th ave. ,Punchy illiano had his club not far from the Carrol st.club. The Glory social club is also not far from these 2 which was raised a few months back for gambling and serving alcohol without a license.Glory social club has been open since the 1950's and was a Colombo stronghold frequented by Crazy Joe Gallo and his brothers and crew among others.

*RAIDED* Not RAISED !! Dann auto correct

Mr. just say no....I think u & helen wheels should go out on an innocent date & see exactly who wear's the pant's ..might b interesting..but i know who is factual & who is living on a wannabee prayer..in my world, this girl has been exposed 2 the real deal just like Giacalone has, when ,in her youth,was exposed 2 the deal while in her childhood..why do u think she(Helen) is so quiet on the boards unless something itches her head like a bothersome knat??This is 1 tough broad..'scuse my language.

You just go ahead and start putting your nose in around there , you just may need a good lesson .

Stay away from theses guys you have no clue..

Don't know what you 2 guys are referring to or talking about and I personally don't care,I'm not here to argue,fight ,on a computer over BS ! Here to talk about and discuss the topics and posts on the board, Everyone has opinions,facts,debates.Everyone is right ! I live in the neighborhood my entire life,I have no problems with anyone,I spent half my life in prison.If I'm wrong that's great,If I'm right that's great also,if I don't know maybe people here can give me some insight and I can learn something !! Have a good night !

Exposed to the life ? My father spent 20 years in Fed BOP ,came home 8 years ago and died from cancer,My grandfather spent over 11 years inside came home and died In 97 at 84 years old so let's not go there with being "EXPOSED" !!!

I don't know a lot of things but I enjoy the site,The boards and I respect the topics,post and people's insight ,info,opinions !! I'm pretty new to all this

You gave me not One iota of a decent credible factor other than sarcasm and "take my word for it."

Say No, You've been there your entire life maybe you can help me out. Do you know the location of Colombo Capo Harry Fontana's club aroung 4th avenue? Or Otto's social club where Mimi Scialo's body was found along with the bones from another victim?

And what would make it credible to you? My real name? Or are you asking me to give names of people i know? Photos? Which of these would be acceptable bona fides?

I dont represent myself as a mafia historian, or an OC expert. In fact, my knowledge and interest in OC generally only goes as far as areas where i have a personal connection either directly or indirectly.

I offered some information in this thread, when a poster was claiming that Andrew Gargiulo owned Garguilos (he didnt). Just like i did in the thread where i mentioned that i noticed you were trying to find the location of Dickie Fusco's social club on 11th avenue, and i offered the information that it was a candy store and that maybe that might help you in trying to locate the address for your app.

Like i said earlier, believe me or dont believe me. I dont give a shit. I'm here to read and occasionally converse, not to get into a dick measuring contest.

HW please dont pay attention to that guy, dont even respond. What you say goes a long way round here. I asked you a question some posts ago ago, can you help me with that?

Like I said,one tough chick..we outta kill this thread.

hello H, you have always been respectful and informative..you never need to prove yourself to anyone on here.i find you only post what you know.and have been right every time in my book.that being said .how you been

Hi Bronx. Im doing well, thank you. How are you? Thanks for the above, it means a lot coming from you.


Alex, you're always a gentleman, and Hoodlum, you're all right in my book, gave me a good laugh.

doing great, everything hurts though.. you know your facts and should be acknowledged ..being on here brings back some good memories from posters like yourself. we are not on the boards to say we know more than anyone else...nice to add on the things we do know . that is the issue with some, they try to hard to convince us they know more..that is o..k..if you are right..but be right...opinion things is just that for any of us . so i hope people stay respectful or nobody will post ..that would be a loss for all..

Ummm cafe romeo? No its almost all albanian. Mostly immigrants there. Could have some mob ppl but its really mostly immigrants....if you go down to the laundry place on the corner you will see the flags and the club

Don't listen to anything he says. Pretty sure he's Giacamo, look at his posts, claims to know the ins and outs of NY families and Buffalo, says Buffalo is alive and well and making new members.

When Giacamo got shit in a thread called buffalo in 2016 MrJustSayNo popped up and started talking about how active Buffalo are and backing him up, also thinks kansas are still active

Nah, I know full well MrJustSayNo has no credibility. First he says he knows things by fact, is in the neighborhood, yet when is confronted on it, backs away from that claim and says he doesn't know anything, just knows what he reads in newspapers and books. Which is why I tongue in cheek asked if he had any sources for his info.

Helen has always been good on this forum, so I don't know what issue Yates has with her, or anyone else. But the fact that Yates is actually buying into what JustSayNo says, is quite surprising.

You are totally correct !! I know nothing,never did,never have,never will !! You guys WIN !! Have a great day guys,enjoy !!!

helen is a long time respected poster.

All I know about Fontana's social club is that it was located on 4th ave & President st. Gardens,Red hook area.I don't know the exact location/address ?

I wonder which family has the strongest presence in Brooklyn. Given how many powerful Genoveses seem to have operations there its probably not too crazy to assume they have the edge.

@Extortion,Your right, There are lots of Albanians at Romeos but there are also Colombia over there and I think the place is owned by an older Gambino (Sicilian) associate. There are a lot of younger guys over there and I know they had a number of incidents over there.

@Ralph cifaretto, It's been really quiet over the last 10 years or so on the South Brooklyn side with the Genovese ! After Allie Shades, Baldy Lingo and more recently the Antico indictments along with the death of Punchy Illiano ! On the other side of Brooklyn ,williamsburg,Greenpoint etc there has also been activity and some indictments regarding Anthony Tony D Palumbo and the 3 up and coming Massullo brothers who were indicted for drug distribution, extorttion,loansharking,gambling,murder conspiracy not to long ago.In the early 2000's there was that huge indictment of 75 Genovese guys based on the info and testimony from Michael Cookie D'urso which was Brooklyn based in those areas.

Other Brooklyn Genovese members and capos were/are, Larry glitz Galizia brother of Joe glitz Galizia who died in 1998, Joe glitz Galizia Jr. Who is possibly made now, capos Rosario Ross Gangi and Sammy meatballs Aparo who were mostly Brooklyn based along with Vinny Aparo who was made in the early 2000's,There is also Little John Spark who was an associate and might possibly be made ,John Aparo owns the porta potty company Little Johns seen all over the 5 boro's.