People can bring up the murder thing and say "Oh, he killed so many people". These guys aren't serial killers preying upon innocent women. These guys are in "the life". They kill other guys in "the life". It's what all of them signed up for. They're not killing innocent people. And the ones doing the killing know that they can be on the hit parade any day. It's kill or be killed. Not saying they are saints, just that it's their way of life. If you're clever and crafty you can take out guys before they take you out. If you make a wrong decision and get set up, you go bye-bye. That's how you live every single day; you don't have a 9 to 5, you party like crazy, have mistresses galore, gamble a shitload at the track, but you could go for a ride with your best friend and get 2 in the back of the head. It's different from a murderer of innocent people.

I'm sorry but that's bullshit.

I could come up with a list of 50 innocent people killed by the mob off the top of my head beginning with Robert Kubecka and Donald Barstow whose murders were approved by the Lucchese admin.

That's not to mention the livelihoods ruined, pensions stolen from, taxes passed on to working people from their crimes etc, etc.

What ShitatraClub knows could fill a matchbook.

True.



In the case of Joey Merlino , and NY mob guys working with him, that doesnt necessarily mean they "respect" him, at least in the ultimate sense of the word. They simply may just acknowledge the fact he's not a rat and if caught up in some illegal scam, they know he wont flip , they may respect that aspect of his personality. But it doesnt necessarily have to mean the Genovese respected his mob "history and prowess". For example, I've learned from some pretty reliable users on another forum that many NY mobsters from various families didnt think Merlinos rise was "Cosa Nostra". The fact that he was a soldier , who made a guy, despite never rightfully having this privilege, and then that guy making himself boss and then making Merlino his underboss, was looked down upon. Its the simple fact that no one was around to stop him and that hes looked at as vehicle into another territory for a NY family, that may be why some guys still choose to cooperate with him. And he simply represents Philly LCN now, so despite how he came to be , it is what it is and you need to go through him and his guys now to do any business in Philly and South Jersey . That may be the case , it doesnt necessarily have to be respect.

He almost had u by the balls ,Mikey Balls,,lol,off by 4..even though i question 1 or 2 of these hits.(I think ligambi offed martorano)..

You know, thinkin' bout it now, Long john told his son cowboy 2 tell caramandi in prison that scarfo & simone sold him down the river,therby actually triggering the crow 2 jump ship, so, in Scarfos fucked up mind, the root of him going 2 the clink was ACTUALLY long john's fault, so the never forgive,never forgetting mindset of scarfo could have conspired w/ ligambi ("when u get out of here Joe, I want u to WHACK that motherfucker LONGY 4 ME") & so b it ,it was done for a ghostly purpose that no one really realized.!AVE MARIA!!