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Rosario Naimo #900895
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I hope since he turned rat a few years ago he writes a book, I also believe him when he said Totò Riina planned to kill Rudy Giuliani.
He was the most powerful Zip in the US during the 80s, Riina called him more powerful than the President lol. He was made into the Luccheses. Naimo was in America from 1967 to 1989 where he was responsible for managing the transnational smuggling of drugs, but during this period he was still aware of everything that took place in Italy and returns very often continuing, on those occasions, to attend mafia meetings. In the 70s he asked Riina if it were possible for him also to join an American Mafia family and that the latter would have refused out of affection, saying "Saruzzo, you must stay with us." But eventually he would join the Lucchese family.The Rudy Giuliani murder plot is interesting Riina even send a team to NY. Naimo said the Lucchese, Bonanno and Genovese families rejected the idea, but John Gotti voted yes lol.


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Think carmine persico also vote yes but the other 3 familys said no. This came from greg scarpas intell and its almost probaly the only thing i didnt believe.

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Wasn't he rumored to be the gunman in the Leo Giammona murder?

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Originally Posted By: baldo
Wasn't he rumored to be the gunman in the Leo Giammona murder?


Yep.


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His name was also mentioned in relation to a pact between the Sicilians and the Medellin cartel.


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Originally Posted By: pmac
Think carmine persico also vote yes but the other 3 familys said no. This came from greg scarpas intell and its almost probaly the only thing i didnt believe.

Why do you think it isn't believable? Knowing Persico, he seems capable of voting yes for such a dumb decision. He had already ordered a hit on a prosecutor who wasn't even that much involved in investigating the Colombo family, he was investigating the Gambinos (the triggermen botched the hit by killing the prosecutor's father by mistake); voting in favor of killing Giuliani too wouldn't be out of character.
Don't know if this is true, but I think in one of the documentaries it was said he couldn't even keep calm while reading Michael Franzese's book, tore it to pieces and threw them against the wall; it takes nothing to get him enraged, and he had reasons to be pissed at Giuliani theoretically...
And Gotti was just plain dumb. If somebody in the American mafia leadership at the time could vote yes for such a high-profiled (and counterproductive) planned hit, it would be Persico and Gotti, makes sense imo.

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@ Hollander

Very interesting stuff.....

I've haven't read much on the Luchesses having a Sicilian faction, was this the case?

In the Garcia book, Robert Vaccaro, was that his name? The Sicilian who was put in Depalmas crew. It was said he traveled to Sicily many times, and hinted that he was connected to the transatlantic pipeline. Was he originally with or under Naimo? I think he had just gotten out of prison for heroin.

Interesting that Naimo was a Luchesse. I had read that he succeeded Francesco Gambino as the head of the heroin pipeline. Did the Corleonesi insist that the American end of the pipeline be handled by a Non Gambino capo? Like was that part of the deal, along with the escapees never returning?

How does Naimo rank, in relation to a guy like Catalano? Was Catalano sent by the Corleonesi/Trapani Faction and not the Gambino lead Palermo faction?
When the Corleonesi reordered Sicily, and the Cherry Hill guys, and then Francesco Gambino got locked up, then the Castellano hit, were the Gambinos still managing the American end of it any longer?

Was the American end of the operation reordered as well?

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Good questions Cabrini. He outranked Catalano and any other zip in NYC. Naimo remained close to the Gambinos, why he went with the Luccheses no idea. Thats why he should write book haha


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Another thing, Castellammare del Golfo instead of Palermo served as a hideout for him. An article in La Repubblica said he became a member of the Mafia in Sicily in 2005 and emigrated to Denmark in 2007.


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So this guy is real? He must have been inducted by amuso who i think started inducting his own guys around xmis 86 when he took over for tony ducks who i thought was really dead set against drugs by 1980ish or after gene gotti got busted in 1982 with them other made guys. That was kinda the drug bust that broke the camels back. Then big paul wanted to kill. Tony ducks was on tape saying we pick them then we kill them. Geeze thinking about tony ducks quote in the jaguar he was a serial killer talking like that. Or was that when hes talking to fat tony like its a everyday thing to order someones death. That was colder then gotti saying you know why hes gonna die he didnt steal its he didnt come in.

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The guy who they killed Leo the Zip Giammona was also a made Lucchese.

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did Naimo testify in Italy and US?

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In the Brotherhoods it says Leo the Zips death was ordered by Casso after he messed up a T-Bill scam. They supposedly used a station wagon full of flowers and a guy was hiding under the flowers with a shotgun.

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also on the inzerillo murder

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Originally Posted by bronx
also on the inzerillo murder


Hey bronx,

Naimo became the leader of the Sicilians after the conviction of Francesco Gambino for his role in running the "Iron Tower" conspiracy. While Naimo was a fugitive, the daily activities and its drug distribution business were controlled by Carlo Filiberto of Cherry Hill.


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Originally Posted by Jeremythejew
did Naimo testify in Italy and US?


He testified in one big case, still ongoing, to the pool of prosecutors that investigates the negotiations between the Italian State and the Mafia.

At the request of the public prosecutor Nino Di Matteo Naimo's dry reply came: "Of the safe masonry". "Riina always talked about it ... there was a notary freemason very friend of Riina ...". The reference of the collaborator of justice was directed to Giuseppe Mandalari, known as the "accountant of Totò Riina", founder of many lodges covered in Sicily, who had personally supervised various affairs of the Corleonese bosses. "There were these Masonic relations - specified Naimo - that in turn these Masons had relations with politicians". The collaborator then stressed that Mandalari himself sought "political adhesions".


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I just read they have reached the verdicts after five years. Leoluca Bagarella received the toughest sentence 28 years.

https://www.stripes.com/news/europe...esentatives-colluded-with-mafia-1.523155


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interesting.

so Naimo u believe was the most powerfull zip?
what time period was this?
as well as why the lukes?

he stayed as a soldier?

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Why he joined the Luccheses instead of Gambinos I have no idea, maybe because he lived in Colonia, NJ.


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@ Hollander

In your opinion... How did that whole thing even work?

Like WHO exactly sent Naimo, Catalano... We know the Gambino-Inzirillos were two links in a chain. Was their operation tied into the Bonnano one' or were they separate operations? It always seemed like they were seperate operations.


Edit; But then, why was Catalano paying up to Castellano?


But then what does " Head of the Sicilian mafia" in America MEAN exactly?

Was Naimo representing the entire Cupola? Or just families from a specific region or faction?


Case in point...

I was on the other board... Francesco Palmeri came up. FBI had him as an " underboss" meaning he was a leader amongst an organization of Sicilians operating in NY. Said he was close to the bosses. But I think in Sicily he's connected with Castellamarre. It's a very strange Gambino-Bonnano-Sicilian nexus.

Same with the guy Valente, he was believed to have been " Authorized" to have his own network.

Naimo, head of Sicilian mafia in America. So like, he's what? Respected as a boss of a family? A capo?
It's bizarre that he's describe as succeeding Francesco Gambino, but ends up a Luchesse, not a Gambino like John.

This entire thing from the 70s- until now is more than a little confusing... I keep coming up with more questions than answers.....

Any and everybody... Any thoughts??!!

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He was Riina's man, so maybe the boss didn't want him to join the Gambino family like Riina's enemies the Inzerillos and other escapees. After the arrest of Totò Riina (1993) and Leoluca Bagarella (1995), the Inzerillos started to come back to Sicily, at the time, Naimo had been appointed to guarantee the agreement.

In 2005 Naimo made the transfer to the Tommaso Natale-Cardillo family.


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Cabrini as you probably know Tomasso Natale family is close to the Gambinos, however the strongest relationship is that between the Gambino and Lo Piccolo families. Salvatore Lo Piccolo would be the new boss of bosses if he was still a free man.

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difference between bonanno and gambino zips were there heroin connections which is what they were essentially sent here for.

the Bonannos went thru the Badalmenti and Bono clans. at one point Sally Ferraira became head of Zips as well as Catalano and they were also in admin spots.

Gambino obviously inzerillos/spatola clan

who is Valenti??

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Originally Posted by Hollander
He was Riina's man, so maybe the boss didn't want him to join the Gambino family like Riina's enemies the Inzerillos and other escapees. After the arrest of Totò Riina (1993) and Leoluca Bagarella (1995), the Inzerillos started to come back to Sicily, at the time, Naimo had been appointed to guarantee the agreement.

In 2005 Naimo made the transfer to the Tommaso Natale-Cardillo family.


from lukes to them? or vice versa

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From the American Cosa Nostra to the Sicilian Mafia. He was first made in the USA.


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great info .Hollander. thanks

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Originally Posted by Hollander
He was Riina's man, so maybe the boss didn't want him to join the Gambino family like Riina's enemies the Inzerillos and other escapees. After the arrest of Totò Riina (1993) and Leoluca Bagarella (1995), the Inzerillos started to come back to Sicily, at the time, Naimo had been appointed to guarantee the agreement.

In 2005 Naimo made the transfer to the Tommaso Natale-Cardillo family.


That’s what I’ve always wondered: Once Riina took control over LCN in Sicily to control the heroin pipeline, who were his allies in the US? So, that gives some insight. Do we know of any other allies in the US? Or, maybe the US Zips and Americans just fell in line because they were in New York and wanted to keep the pipeline running along uninterrupted. Like John Gambino sitting down with Riina.... he had to fall in line with the changes in Palermo because he probably wasn’t in a position to start a war.

Do we know if Naimo had a whole crew of Zips in the Lukes?

Also, were there any Zips in the US from the actual town of Corleone or nearby towns?


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I read sometime ago Riina and Gaetano Reina (Lucchese family) were related..


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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
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In your opinion... How did that whole thing even work?

Like WHO exactly sent Naimo, Catalano... We know the Gambino-Inzirillos were two links in a chain. Was their operation tied into the Bonnano one' or were they separate operations? It always seemed like they were seperate operations.


Edit; But then, why was Catalano paying up to Castellano?


But then what does " Head of the Sicilian mafia" in America MEAN exactly?

Was Naimo representing the entire Cupola? Or just families from a specific region or faction?


I think 'head of the sicilian mafia' doesn't mean he was a Boss in the structure of the mafia, just ring-leader. Naimo was a middle-man between Cosa Nostra and its interests in the US. Naimo represented Riina and the doctor/mafioso Antonino Cinà.


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I read sometime ago Riina and Gaetano Reina (Lucchese family) were related.


probably the original surname of totò riina was reina, it was changed by the bad trascription of some policeman, like luciano leggio known as liggio

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