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Selwyn Raab updating Five Families #899873
11/27/16 01:17 PM
11/27/16 01:17 PM
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http://aboutthemafia.com/mafia-resurgenc...k#disqus_thread

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/is-the-american-mafia-on-the-rise-w451888

Sounds like he's talking about a couple of people here (and on The Black Hand).

Quote:
You write that the Mob has become a "perennial favorite theme for the entertainment industry." How has this helped them in the modern age?

There are an immense amount of mafia groupies. There's a perverse aspect to this because it gets kids and young people interested in this feeling that [Mafia members] lives are glamorous and a way of beating the system. Hollywood and TV don't dismiss them as venal or pernicious. I think for very vulnerable people you get this vicarious kick that there's something to this life. Part of it comes from this anti-establishment thing. John Gotti personified this, that by being anti-establishment, anti-government you could somehow succeed in life and be envied. Look at Gotti's grandson's wedding last year; he collected two million dollars and the place was swamped with people giving him gifts. [The entertainment industry] turns these people into icons and interesting characters who are anti-society. It doesn't make them look like they're token bad guys.

A great example was Sammy "The Bull" Gravano; when he saw The Godfather he was in his late teens and he said it made him feel proud to be an Italian and to join the Mafia. And that movie is repeated endlessly. What The Godfather also does is establish that there is good mafia and bad mafia by essentially showing a white hat mafia that was opposed to the introduction of narcotics, which was a total lie and mischaracterization. But the point was there were still Mafiosi who were doing good work, and that there were traditions that were virtuous. This helps them.


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Re: Selwyn Raab updating Five Families [Re: Moe_Tilden] #899926
11/27/16 11:20 PM
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I will wait on line to buy the updated version. "Five Families" is the Bible.


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Re: Selwyn Raab updating Five Families [Re: Moe_Tilden] #899935
11/28/16 12:34 AM
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That Rolling Stones article sums it up perfectly. Sewlynn Raab, the "Mafia Expert". I did like his book. Pretty factual. Then he mentions the "mafia groupies". The title should be reversed. He is a "mafia groupie". He does it for the money. His so called "groupies" do it for the interest and passion. We don't get paid. He does it for the money, doesn't feel the need to fact check or employee a groupie. Lol. If he had, he would know that Gravano was born in March of 1945. He couldn't have seen The Godfather in his late teens. It was released in March of 1972 when Sammy the Bull was almost 27 years old. Little shit like that makes me believe we the "groupies" know way more than the "expert". Just not to the masses that are just becoming interested. That needs to change.

Re: Selwyn Raab updating Five Families [Re: Turnbull] #900985
12/08/16 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
I will wait on line to buy the updated version. "Five Families" is the Bible.


anything on a supposed release? I know the current one is also a revised edition with a look into the early 2000s.


Up to date mafia charts --> https://cosanostracharts.wordpress.com/
Re: Selwyn Raab updating Five Families [Re: Mukremin] #901024
12/08/16 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
I will wait on line to buy the updated version. "Five Families" is the Bible.


anything on a supposed release? I know the current one is also a revised edition with a look into the early 2000s.


I bought the new version of the book a couple of weeks ago Mukremin, I already had the e-book version but I also wanted the book in physical form because it's one of my favorite books of all time.

To be honest, the added content was a bit disappointing in that it was only a new preface of 5 pages.


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Re: Selwyn Raab updating Five Families [Re: BillyBrizzi] #901089
12/09/16 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
I will wait on line to buy the updated version. "Five Families" is the Bible.


anything on a supposed release? I know the current one is also a revised edition with a look into the early 2000s.


I bought the new version of the book a couple of weeks ago Mukremin, I already had the e-book version but I also wanted the book in physical form because it's one of my favorite books of all time.

To be honest, the added content was a bit disappointing in that it was only a new preface of 5 pages.


Thanks Billy, would you mind sharing it? Any new information or new names?

I want to buy it too, but dont know on eBay which one is the new version


Up to date mafia charts --> https://cosanostracharts.wordpress.com/
Re: Selwyn Raab updating Five Families [Re: Mukremin] #901130
12/09/16 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: Mukremin
Originally Posted By: Turnbull
I will wait on line to buy the updated version. "Five Families" is the Bible.


anything on a supposed release? I know the current one is also a revised edition with a look into the early 2000s.


I bought the new version of the book a couple of weeks ago Mukremin, I already had the e-book version but I also wanted the book in physical form because it's one of my favorite books of all time.

To be honest, the added content was a bit disappointing in that it was only a new preface of 5 pages.


Thanks Billy, would you mind sharing it? Any new information or new names?

I want to buy it too, but dont know on eBay which one is the new version


No nothing new really, at least nothing that wasn't discussed already on this board.

He talks about that recent East Coast LCN Enterprise indictment with Joey Merlino and Patsy Parello and how it was somewhat of a new development that 4 of the 5 families together with the Philly boss were allegedly working together very intensively.

He also discusses very briefly the cases John Gotti jr had in the last 10 years, the Ligambi trial/wiretap by Stefanelli and the arrests in the so-called Mafia Takedown Day in 2011.

He states that the the Five Families have been very stable the last decade and that their overall numbers of 700 to 800 made men are not very far off from their highpoint of 1000 in the 80's.

He ends the prologue with discussing how Hollywood can't get enough from the mob as a subject and talks about the various shows and movies from the last decade like 'Boardwalk Empire' and the upcoming movie 'The Life and Death of John Gotti' which will star John Travolta.

Last edited by BillyBrizzi; 12/09/16 02:11 PM.

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