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Another Myth about Prison Sentences #893222
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Blacks blame their mass incarceration on the systems harsh crack cocaine laws because crack is mostly found in black neighbirhoods. The penalty for powdered cocaine is not as stiff and white people are spared the much harsher crack sentences.
Ok, get caught with a key of powdered coke and then tell me the sentence isnt stiff, but hey, whatever.
Ok, you are going to say getting caught with X amount of crack is much harsher than getting caught with an equal amount of powdered coke that a white guy may posess and thats true in some cases,
Thats true because CRACK IS MORE DANGEROUS.
How bout this : the penalty for crystal meth is much more harsh than regular speed.
Guess what, the overwhelming majority of those caught with crystal meth are WHITE.
Are we going to change laws based on the color of an offenders skin because very harsh crystal meth penalties mostly affect white people ?? How dumb!!!!
Ask the blacks about crystal meth laws when they bring up crack laws.
Oh yeah, white collar criminals get off easy... Really ??? They get some tough ass sentences. My buddy was locked up in a fed prison and said the white collar criminals received some of the harshest sentences. The media makes it sound as if white collar guys get off easy, thats utter nonsense. They get 10-20 year sentences for tax evasion, its fucked up.
More blacks are in prison, not because of racism but because they engage is more crime, especially violent crime. Change the culture, not the laws.

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All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: Another Myth about Prison Sentences [Re: Crash] #893243
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@crash

Do u realize u admitted that crack sentences are more harsh than powder coke sentences. That kinda destroys your argument

Re: Another Myth about Prison Sentences [Re: cookcounty] #893245
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
@crash

Do u realize u admitted that crack sentences are more harsh than powder coke sentences. That kinda destroys your argument


Cook, that wasn't his argument. He was saying it evens out because white people get harsher sentences when they do crystal meth.

Anyway, just to throw something else into the mix, when these laws were first passed in the 1980s it was a combination of the mostly Democrat Black Congressional Caucus and Republicans who wanted these laws for the purpose of getting rid of those offenders who were causing the most damage to Black communities. So it wasn't racist, the purpose of the harsher sentences was to PROTECT Black communities.

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Haha.


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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
it was a combination of the mostly Democrat Black Congressional Caucus and Republicans who wanted these laws for the purpose of getting rid of those offenders who were causing the most damage to Black communities. So it wasn't racist, the purpose of the harsher sentences was to PROTECT Black communities.


Here we go.

The 'it can't be racist because some black people supported it' argument.


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Crack is a very dangerous and destructive drug hence the harsh sentences. Just because it affects blacks much more than whites doesnt mean the sentences are racist.
As i said, the penalties for crystal meth are actually more harsh than crack and guess what ??? The overwhelming majority arrested and sentenced for crystal meth are white people. Isnt that raicist ???

Do you know the penalties for LSD are more severe than crack? Most people arrested for LSD are white.

Stop making excuses for irresponsible and violent behavior at the hands of blacks. Its getting old.
You wanna make a difference, go speak to blacks about the dangers of having kids out of wedlock.

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Re: Another Myth about Prison Sentences [Re: Crash] #893284
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Originally Posted By: Crash


Its getting old.


Understanding irony isn't really your thing, is it?


All God's children are not beautiful. Most of God's children are, in fact, barely presentable.


I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: Another Myth about Prison Sentences [Re: OakAsFan] #893286
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Originally Posted By: Faithful1
it was a combination of the mostly Democrat Black Congressional Caucus and Republicans who wanted these laws for the purpose of getting rid of those offenders who were causing the most damage to Black communities. So it wasn't racist, the purpose of the harsher sentences was to PROTECT Black communities.


Here we go.

The 'it can't be racist because some black people supported it' argument.


Okay, so you're calling all the members of the Black Congressional Caucus anti-Black racists. Got it.

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No, actually I never posted anything like that. And anyone can read my comment to see that I didn't. Anything else?


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Originally Posted By: Crash
Crack is a very dangerous and destructive drug hence the harsh sentences. Just because it affects blacks much more than whites doesnt mean the sentences are racist.
As i said, the penalties for crystal meth are actually more harsh than crack and guess what ??? The overwhelming majority arrested and sentenced for crystal meth are white people. Isnt that raicist ???

Do you know the penalties for LSD are more severe than crack? Most people arrested for LSD are white.

Stop making excuses for irresponsible and violent behavior at the hands of blacks. Its getting old.
You wanna make a difference, go speak to blacks about the dangers of having kids out of wedlock.


If I may, Helen.



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lol


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this guy has gone full retard

Re: Another Myth about Prison Sentences [Re: OakAsFan] #893395
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
No, actually I never posted anything like that. And anyone can read my comment to see that I didn't. Anything else?


Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
The 'it can't be racist because some black people supported it' argument.


Obviously since you wrote sarcasm you are saying that it can be racist even though some black people supported it. Actually in this case some black Congressmen helped write it, which is deeper than just supporting it. So if harsh sentences for crack are racist despite some black people writing that law, it follows that those black people must also be racist. After all, do non-racists write racist laws?

Or perhaps you just wrote the sarcastic comment without really considering the logical implications of what you wrote. Kind of a knee-jerk left-wing reaction sort of thing. After all, it is possible for a piece of legislation to be wrong, bad or poorly thought out without it being racist.

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You badly want to believe I said something that I never said. Go ahead, argue with your straw man. I'll just watch.


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Your straw man is that I badly want to believe it. I notice you never wrote anything specific to refute what I wrote, which is telling. Please, correct the details that are false. I'll wait.

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"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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^Pathetic.

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"you're calling all black congressional caucus members anti-black racists?"

"You're saying anyone who's not a leftist is greedy?"

"awh oooo"

"awh oooo"



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Originally Posted By: SoCalGangs
^Pathetic.


You'd think he'd at least come up with something original. Then again, maybe not.

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As long as I come up with something. And, I always do. Even the Beatles did several covers.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
As long as I come up with something. And, I always do. Even the Beatles did several covers.



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^^^^^

Maybe yoda orchestrated those 3 recent college rapist (who happened to be white) that all got off with less than 6 months served. Only 2 of them have to register as sex offender.....that's fucked up

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I'm surprised Brock Turner didn't try to use the defense that Yoda told him to do it. He did acid, after all.


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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
^^^^^

Maybe yoda orchestrated those 3 recent college rapist (who happened to be white) that all got off with less than 6 months served. Only 2 of them have to register as sex offender.....that's fucked up


What does that have to do with anything I wrote? I don't know about you, but I'm part of the Recall Judge Persky group (the idiot judge who gave Brock Turner a nothing sentence). If it was up to me I'd put Turner AND Persky in prison for 20 years or more. You want to make it a racial thing, but there's plenty of white people who are outraged. Just do an internet search.

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I think it's pretty obvious what anyone would mean by saying it's a racial thing, and that is that the white suspect got a slap in the wrist. Just put a black face on Brock Turner, and try to picture him walking out of jail this soon for raping a girl by a trash dumpster.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
I think it's pretty obvious what anyone would mean by saying it's a racial thing, and that is that the white suspect got a slap in the wrist. Just put a black face on Brock Turner, and try to picture him walking out of jail this soon for raping a girl by a trash dumpster.


Your opinion is as unsurprising as the sun rising in the morning and setting at night. Typical left-wing fantasies. So no, it's not obvious that the sentence was racially motivated. That's another straw man fallacy along with overgeneralization. Ever heard of Occam's Razor? Usually the simplest explanation is the best. You get the simplest explanation for what happened by actually reading up on what happened. You know, a few minutes of actual research instead of making knee-jerk reactions.

IMO, if another white guy who wasn't Brock Turner did the same thing he'd be put away for years too. If it was a different judge Turner wouldn't have gotten the light sentence. The reason for the weak sentence wasn't Turner's whiteness, it was the combination of Turner and his father and a stupid judge. That's the simplest reason. If you want to claim that white people don't get long prison sentences for rape, here's a few examples among the first few results from a search I just did:

Here's a white ex-cop getting 263 years for rape: https://thinkprogress.org/breaking-oklah...930f#.y6fkmcugd

Here's a white guy getting 34 years for rape: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article97155212.html

So if you want an obvious statement, here's one: once again, you have no evidence.

Here's another fact: In December 2015 Persky sentenced a white rapist to 30 years in prison. The fact is, as this article shows, the sentence he gave to Turner was an anomaly and his stated reason is because he didn't have any priors and has reduced sentences for black people also when no priors were involved. Why don't you read this article for some FACTS instead the usual talking points: http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/06/11/brock-turner-case-a-look-at-judge-aaron-perskys-record/

Now I drop the mic.

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The simplest explanation is the best for the simple minded.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
The simplest explanation is the best for the simple minded.


What a relief to see you finally being honest about yourself. Didn't think you'd come around. Spot on. That's called self-knowledge.

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@faithful

rapist and pedophiles almost always get light sentences

brock turner, john enochs, and austin wilkerson admitted rape and served no real time

there ain't no way in hell these cretins should be on the streets to rape again

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