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Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up #891605
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Off the top of my head,

Alfred Embarrato a Bonanno captain at the time had set-up his nephew Tony Mirra to be whacked. Mirra was killed for being unlikable, and allowing FBI Agent Donnie Pistone in the Bonanno's.

Any others?

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Michael Ciancaglini/Joey Ciancaglini

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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Off the top of my head,

Alfred Embarrato a Bonanno captain at the time had set-up his nephew Tony Mirra to be whacked. Mirra was killed for being unlikable, and allowing FBI Agent Donnie Pistone in the Bonanno's.

Any others?


And used family to pull off the hit too, Cantarella and D'Amico.

Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Zavattoni] #891621
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Sam and Mario DeStefano were questioned in their brother Michael's murder, sadistic fucks.


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Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Zavattoni] #891631
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I'm sure John Gotti thought about it as his grandchildren got older.


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Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Zavattoni] #891641
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Frank Bommarito from detroit gave the ok to kill his junkie son with an overdose.

Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Zavattoni] #891645
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Quiet Dom had his own son Nicholas rubbed out for insulting Vinny Gorgeous' son.

Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Zavattoni] #891653
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DeStefano brothers. Mario and Sam killed Michael DeStefano and Mario eventually killed Sam.

Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Regoparker100] #891654
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Originally Posted By: Regoparker100
Quiet Dom had his own son Nicholas rubbed out for insulting Vinny Gorgeous' son.


I hear Quiet Dom didn't have him actually whacked out, but he did nothing to save his son from being murdered. I'm sure he had enough clout to have saved him.

Carmine Persico tried to have his cousin Victor Orena killed after Orena tried to take over the Colombo's.


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Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: irishkaos] #891655
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Originally Posted By: irishkaos
Michael Ciancaglini/Joey Ciancaglini


IMO, I don't think this can be topped!

Re: Guys, who had their blood family whacked or set up [Re: Zavattoni] #891657
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Meyer Lansky is said to have OKed a hit on his own stepson....but not blood family.


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Gaspar DiGregorio tried to have Bill Bonanno rubbed out in the Troutman Street ambush in early 1966.

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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Originally Posted By: irishkaos
Michael Ciancaglini/Joey Ciancaglini


IMO, I don't think this can be topped!


I don't know about that; I think Quiet Dom not saving his son from death may be more disturbing to me. But yea, A brother murdering another brother is horrid.

Let's also not forget, Steve Maggaddino kidnapping his cousin Joe Bonanno. It's been said that this was a faked kidnapping, however.


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
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Johnny "keys" Simone was in on whacking his cousin Angelo Bruno.


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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Off the top of my head,

Alfred Embarrato a Bonanno captain at the time had set-up his nephew Tony Mirra to be whacked. Mirra was killed for being unlikable, and allowing FBI Agent Donnie Pistone in the Bonanno's.

Any others?


I thought Massino testified that Mira was killed for suspicion of being a DEA Informant?

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Sammy Bull killed his brother in law or cousin or something

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Louis (Butch) Stramaglia a detroit mobster was said to have had his younger brother frank stramaglia killed after he found out he was cooperating


Anthony Arrilotta killed his brother in law because he was a rat


Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

Sorry for the confusion
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Sammy said he didnt have anything to do with his wifes brothers killing. I dont believe him thats so fucked up. Didnt they find his hand. Im sure the public doesnt know what happend to the brother but i bet when sammy flipped every detail about it got to sammys wife hoping it would change sammys mind about testifying.

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Originally Posted By: Beanshooter
Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Off the top of my head,

Alfred Embarrato a Bonanno captain at the time had set-up his nephew Tony Mirra to be whacked. Mirra was killed for being unlikable, and allowing FBI Agent Donnie Pistone in the Bonanno's.

Any others?


I thought Massino testified that Mira was killed for suspicion of being a DEA Informant?


I'v never heard that. It's possible. It's mostly been said that Mirra was killed because he introduced Donnie Pistone into the Bonanno's. Lefty Ruggiero, and Sonny Black Napolitano were all dead men walking too because of their close association to Pistone.


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
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Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
Off the top of my head,

Alfred Embarrato a Bonanno captain at the time had set-up his nephew Tony Mirra to be whacked. Mirra was killed for being unlikable, and allowing FBI Agent Donnie Pistone in the Bonanno's.

Any others?


I thought Massino testified that Mira was killed for suspicion of being a DEA Informant?


I'v never heard that. It's possible. It's mostly been said that Mirra was killed because he introduced Donnie Pistone into the Bonanno's. Lefty Ruggiero, and Sonny Black Napolitano were all dead men walking too because of their close association to Pistone.


This is from Capeci's Gangland from Joe Massino's testimony:
This Week In Gang Land April 14, 2011
By Jerry Capeci
Massino: As Mafia Boss I Had The Power Of Life & Death
A Gang Land Exclusive
Siskel and Ebert gave Donnie Brasco “two thumbs up.” But when a prosecutor asked Joseph Massino for his take on the classic gangster movie, he grimaced and held his hand in front of his face. Then he wiggled his fingers back and forth in that shaky motion that most closely translates as “Mezza-mezza.” Or perhaps, “Eh.”
“Objection!” thundered the defense attorney. “Sustained,” said the judge, ending Joe Massino’s career as movie reviewer.
Jurors were instructed to ignore this part of Massino’s historic appearance as the first official New York Mafia boss to testify for the government – in this case, against a fellow former Bonanno crime family big, onetime acting boss Vincent (Vinny Gorgeous)Basciano.
Thankfully, Gang Land is not required to adhere to the trial judge’s admonitions. For that matter, it’s hard to fathom how jurors will get it out of their heads since Brooklyn Federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis was forced to repeat the shaky hand motion when he ruled it off-limits. At any rate, let it be officially recorded here that the first movie review by an ex-mob chieftain delivered from the witness stand was “No Stars!”
Not that the 68-year-old Massino lacked for insight about the inner-workings of the Bonanno family of that era. In fact, he is presumably better-equipped than anyone to pass judgment on the accuracy of the big-screen portrayal of FBI agent Joe Pistone’s undercover work against the crime family from 1976-to-1981.
In any event, once his movie review was over, the burly ex-Mafia boss proceeded to deliver several new revelations, each of which partially explained why he might think the movie version of the Brasco affair was no great shakes.
First, he debunked a long-held theory that a pair of mob murders of that era stemmed from anger at mobsters who were hoodwinked by the FBI agent. Under questioning by assistant U.S. attorney Taryn Merkl, Massino said that he was “made” on June 14, 1977 – a year after Pistone began his undercover role – and learned about the agent’s work soon after the FBI disclosed it in the summer of 1981 to Dominick (Sonny Black) Napolitano, the wiseguy who wanted to sponsor Pistone for induction.
Contrary to what prosecutors alleged at Massino’s 2004 trial – and what was implied in the 1997 movie – Sonny Black’s murder in August of 1981, a month after the feds pulled the plug on Pistone’s sting operation, was not payback for Napolitano’s role in vouching for Donnie Brasco, the jewel thief that Pistone pretended to be for five years.
Massino said that Sonny Black had told him that three FBI agents had alerted Napolitano that the “knock-around guy” he had known for several years as “Donnie Brasco” was really an FBI agent. Napolitano said the agents warned him that “if anything happens to [Brasco], we’re going to have a lot of trouble,” said Massino, adding that Napolitano’s sudden problems were unrelated to the Brasco fiasco.
Sonny Black Napolitano and undercover FBI Agent Joe Pistone“Sonny Black threatened to make a move on the family,” said Massino, recalling that he took part in the slaying and was part of a three-capo panel that was running the crime family for then-imprisoned boss Philip (Rusty) Rastelli that authorized the rubout. (Sonny Black looks into the camera as he and "Donnie Brasco" catch some rays at a Florida pool in 1980.)
Massino also dismissed reports that the demise of Bonanno wiseguy Anthony Mirra, whose February 1982 murder was long linked to his own Donnie Brasco dealings, was related to Pistone’s undercover work. Instead, Massino testified, that slaying stemmed from a belief that Mirra, a longtime drug dealer had become a secret “cooperator for the DEA.”
Massino, who is expected to face stiff cross-examination today about his assertion that Basciano ordered the 2004 murder of mob associate Randolph Pizzolo, stressed during his direct testimony that he was an all-powerful crime boss who had the power of life and death over wiseguys years before he took over the crime family in 1991.
He also explained the rationale behind another mob rubout: Disrespect. While he was on the lam in 1984 – ducking trial for the murders of three capos in 1981 – Massino said he learned from Rastelli’s brother and his own brother-in-law Salvatore Vitale, who was then a capo, that Rastelli was planning to whack Cesare Bonventre, a member of the family’s Sicilian faction who had extorted about $600,000 from a drug dealer who was close to Rastelli.
When Bonventre was called on the carpet about it by Rastelli, (right) not only did he deny the allegation, “he got insulted” by the inquiry and “got up and walked away,’ without so much as a polite good bye to his already steaming Mafia boss.
“You can’t do that with bosses,” said Massino. “That’s why he died.”
Rastelli also wanted to whack Bonventre’s long time buddy and partner in the crime and the insult, Baldo Amato – the duo played key roles in the 1979 rubout of wannabe Bonanno boss Carmine (Lilo) Galante – but Massino thought that was a bad idea, he testified.
“I saved him,” he said. “I sent word to the old man. I said, ‘Listen, he’s listening to his captain. We can’t just keep going on killing and killing and killing. He’s following orders just like I follow orders.’ He said, ‘You’re right,’ and he gave him a pass.”
Randolph PizzoloYesterday, prosecutors played tape recordings of jailhouse talks that Massino had with Vinny Gorgeous in January of 2005 – which Gang Land first disclosed thatSeptember – in which Basciano admits ordering a close associate to whack Pizzolo.
In his opening remarks to the jury, defense lawyer George Goltzer conceded that Basciano admitted ordering Pizzolo’s slaying while he was behind bars but insisted that his client was lying to his all powerful boss in order to save the life of Dominick Cicale, a close associate who had whacked Pizzolo on his own.
Goltzer conceded that Basciano was a powerful mobster who had committed numerous crimes, but insisted that he had nothing to do with ordering the December 1, 2004 murder of Pizzolo. His purpose in telling his mob boss he ordered the slaying was solely to protect Cicale from retaliation from Massino for having acted without prior approval.
The defense lawyer implored jurors to listen to the tapes “as many times as you want” during deliberations, assuring them that when all the evidence is in, “the only fair inference is that Vincent Basciano is saying what he has to say to save DominickCicale.”
It’s hard to determine what the jury will ultimately decide, but one irony of the defense lawyer’s words is that if Vinny Gorgeous was indeed trying to save Cicale from Masssino, his old pal hasn’t expressed much gratitude. He has already testified against him twice, and is slated to follow Massino to the stand.
A second irony is that no matter what the outcome of the trial, Vinny Gorgeous, who is serving life without parole for one mob murder, will leave prison in a body bag some time in the future

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Rumour has it Greg Scarpa was in on killing his brother Salvatore (who was Colombo made guy)

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Rumour has it Greg Scarpa was in on killing his brother Salvatore (who was Colombo made guy)


Yes, that is the prevailing theory by guys in the know. Scarpa was a bad, bad guy.


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