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How much a small family boss can earn a year? #891000
08/16/16 02:14 PM
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In the Leonetti book,it said that Scarfo sr had 3 milions a year from the family rackets but it was the 80.

Now a small family like philly that had 4 crews so,for example,the capos send to merlino at last 10k montly, so are 480000.

Hipotetly speaking Merlino earn 1 or 2 milions.
Depend which rackets the family was involved and if are most blue or white collar



Anyone had more info ?

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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891006
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it is impossible to know furio because these guys dont record how much they are making. It also depends on the situation and whats available some capos are better earners therefore they will kick up more i dont think there is a set amount you are supposed to kick up. Also depends what rackets are available some new scams may open up which will mean more income for whoever the boss. In some cases the boss might be running his own scams like merlino for example this cream scam he was running that himself that was not his capos kicking up another example a few years ago geogre A said ligambi and staino made a killing in some real estate deal that was nothing to do with what the philly mob made that was there own independat scams. Also if someone brings in a big "score" the amount a boss makes will obviously increase


If i had to guess i would say someone like merlino is making between 1.5mil - 2.5mil if he is lucky the reason he is able to fund his lifestyle is because others are paying for him he was doing the same in the 90s even the 5mil bail i doubt he would have been able to post that himself he needed others to help him out joey has alot of rich friends he is able to get away with it.

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Sorry for the confusion
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891035
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Either 136 or 142

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891083
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I think $2 million a year is a low guess for Merlino, even if you are only counting his local rackets. I think the top guys in Philly are all approx. $2 million a year. Everyone else is probably making a fraction of that.

All we can do is guesstimate though.


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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: Ted] #891086
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Merlino may be able to pull in $1 million and maybe a little more, but the rest of the top 3 guys are extremely lucky if they're able to pull in 300 grand each. This isn't nearly as profitable as you guys think. The one guy who may be able to come close to a million a year is Joe Pung.


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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891094
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The biggest thing you guys are all forgetting here is that it's all cold hard, untaxed CA$H that we are talking about here....

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: johnnyboysala] #891095
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Originally Posted By: johnnyboysala
Either 136 or 142



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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891461
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What in the world do they do with a million dollars cash? How can you spend that money without the IRS noticing?

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891464
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I can say this, as a pawn shop owner for 20 yrs, I don't believe there is a business going that doesn't carry two sets of books, because of the tax situation, not only the mob, but millions of small business owners deal in cash, if small business went exactly by the repressive tax code, 90% would be out of business tomorrow,

as far as how much they make, probably only they know.
now, the old mob, Costello, lansky, profaci. luchesse, Gambino, and the rest made 100s of millions, and their families may still be trying to hide it.

the mob now is in a much more dire situation, the IRS operates outside the law, and they have no oversight.



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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: mbo] #891467
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Originally Posted By: mbo
What in the world do they do with a million dollars cash? How can you spend that money without the IRS noticing?


Launder it in any number of ways and have legitimate sources of income, at least on paper anyway, that justifies to the IRS their spending.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: johnnyboysala] #891468
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Originally Posted By: johnnyboysala
Either 136 or 142


Bob Dylan?


The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man.
Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?


Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: mbo] #891475
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Originally Posted By: mbo
What in the world do they do with a million dollars cash? How can you spend that money without the IRS noticing?

That's the big challenge because income tax evasion is the easiest way for the federal government to convict Mafiosi. The government doesn't have to prove how you made your money--only that you were "living beyond your means." Most Mob guys regard paying taxes in the same way they regard being cuckolded, and many of them are stupid about it. Neil Dellacroce got five years in prison because he lost more than $100k in a Puerto Rican casino at a time when he declared only $10k in legitimate income.

Smarter mobsters will have a "legitimate" job that they use to declare income and pay taxes on: Columbo was a "real estate salesman"; Gotti was (I think) a "plumbing contractor"; Gravano had a drywall business; Gambino was a "labor consultant." The smarter ones, like Gambino, also live modestly, in line with the "legitimate" income that they declare for tax purposes. But they will hide or launder the big money: they put it out on the street as loan shark money; invest in securities through associates; have side businesses that, through cooking the books, look like they're losing money; maintain credit accounts at casinos.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891484
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I think merlino was a "restaurant owner". And its true there 2 books but I think that if merlino earn 1 milion he can say that he live with what earn with the restaurants.

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: mbo] #891505
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Originally Posted By: mbo
What in the world do they do with a million dollars cash? How can you spend that money without the IRS noticing?


A lot of them own cash businesses, they declare the income that seems right for the lifestyle they're living.

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #891517
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Real estate is always the safest bet IMHO. It's already been documented that the Philly family (like every family) is highly involved in it.


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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938369
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
In the Leonetti book,it said that Scarfo sr had 3 milions a year from the family rackets but it was the 80.

Now a small family like philly that had 4 crews so,for example,the capos send to merlino at last 10k montly, so are 480000.

Hipotetly speaking Merlino earn 1 or 2 milions.
Depend which rackets the family was involved and if are most blue or white collar



Anyone had more info ?


Did you post this exact same post over at blackhand under the name johngotti2018? How many damn accounts do you have? It's hilarious when you answer your own posts on here under a different name. Your a funny guy.

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938370
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But he no speak good english...or do he

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938371
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You are a retard, furio.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938372
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
In the Leonetti book,it said that Scarfo sr had 3 milions a year from the family rackets but it was the 80.

Now a small family like philly that had 4 crews so,for example,the capos send to merlino at last 10k montly, so are 480000.

Hipotetly speaking Merlino earn 1 or 2 milions.
Depend which rackets the family was involved and if are most blue or white collar



Anyone had more info ?


You never go full retard.

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: fatdomgamiello36] #938375
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That's not nice guys...


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: hoodlum] #938376
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
That's not nice guys...

Furio 's a good poster,,he tries man..


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938378
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I can't believe this one....
Furio.... C Mon! I was #teamfurio until u did that one . Lol u did that for fun ik ur not that dumb lol

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938383
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My down syndrome addled cousin has more sense than Furio. Furio is one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on a message board. It's not the language barrier either, he is just a full on retard.

Probably get banned here for this post, but oh well. I wont be missing anything.

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938384
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Furio keep posting. BH board members digging these old threads up since somebody posted the same question recently on their boards. These guys must really love giving handjobs, but hey, a handjob is a handjob, who is going to refuse that?


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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: Jeremythejew] #938387
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Originally Posted by Jeremythejew
I can't believe this one....
Furio.... C Mon! I was #teamfurio until u did that one . Lol u did that for fun ik ur not that dumb lol


Yes JeremyTheJew I made it only for fun only for see If I will caught,and this happened or I wanted to be caught ? Im not a dumb person and the BH forum are mastiffs.#teamfurio

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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: hoodlum] #938390
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by hoodlum
That's not nice guys...

Furio 's a good poster,,he tries man..


I feel ya H, I have stuck up for Furio many of times myself and I still have nothing against him, but he does make multiple profiles on multiple boards while keep asking the same questions over and over. He even keeps conversations going with himself in certain threads. He's the Jeff Dunham of mob boards..

I never called him out about this publicly but instead had multiple discussions with him about this via PM's, but there's just no way to get through to him.. But like I said, I still have nothing against him, because it's all pretty harmless but I just cannot take him seriously anymore at this point..


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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: Raven] #938391
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Originally Posted by Raven
My down syndrome addled cousin has more sense than Furio. Furio is one of the dumbest people I've ever seen on a message board. It's not the language barrier either, he is just a full on retard.

Probably get banned here for this post, but oh well. I wont be missing anything.



Very perceptive of you, Raven (about getting banned). We won't be missing anything either.


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Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: BillyBrizzi] #938394
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Originally Posted by BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by hoodlum
That's not nice guys...

Furio 's a good poster,,he tries man..


I feel ya H, I have stuck up for Furio many of times myself and I still have nothing against him, but he does make multiple profiles on multiple boards while keep asking the same questions over and over. He even keeps conversations going with himself in certain threads. He's the Jeff Dunham of mob boards..

I never called him out about this publicly but instead had multiple discussions with him about this via PM's, but there's just no way to get through to him.. But like I said, I still have nothing against him, because it's all pretty harmless but I just cannot take him seriously anymore at this point..


Should I feel offended if you compare me to a comedian?
Come on guys this is a forum not the real life,say it to Raven "down syndrome man" Hey fucked key board tiger say it face to face and after will say who is the retarded.Damn.

Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: furio_from_naples] #938401
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"will say who is the retarded."

Case closed.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: How much a small family boss can earn a year? [Re: LittleNicky] #938402
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Originally Posted by LittleNicky
"will say who is the retarded."

Case closed.


The education system is actually just really screwed up in the US. Furio went to the same high school as CookCounty.

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