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Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? #884929
06/07/16 11:49 PM
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Am curious as to hear your responses...There are some things I've read which seem to indicate that he decided to lip and was taping guys when he was informed of the contract out on him. But what do you think?

Re: Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? [Re: JackieAprile] #884931
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Not a chance, he didnt have enough time before his death, plus he wouldnt of been able to strike a very good deal, as his crew was thought by police to be the most dangerous ever investigated...and he was the leader.

Only way he would of flipped would of been after a trial.. and he got death penalty..he wasnt that much of a stand up gangster i mean they say he would only shoot you in the back of the head, he didnt like to look at people in the eyes when he killed them. That alone makes me feel he would of tryed to roll on castellano before get the chair.

Re: Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? [Re: JackieAprile] #884953
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Yeah Roy was killed before he even had a chance to flip. Mickey Featherstone was probably crazier than Demeo but he had a bit of a heads up and he flipped.

Re: Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? [Re: JackieAprile] #885030
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Another reason against this theory is that they were hot to get Castellano and they needed someone direct with Castellano, at most Roy had driven Nino to and sat in on meetings at the SI mansion, he didn't have much direct contact.

It's been ages since I read Murder Machine, but I remember that they were going after Roy to get to Nino, whom they hoped busting would at least seriously weaken Costellano and get Roy's crew off of street at the same time.


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Re: Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? [Re: JackieAprile] #885040
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I love murder machine but do you reLly think roy was gonna flip i dont hed be doing life with the geminis or gotti would have killed him but who nows. I remember reding he was reching out but thats probaly a feds take.

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He killed way to many people look at fish cafaro who was a nyc guy who flipped he said he never killed no one.

Re: Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? [Re: pmac] #885045
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Originally Posted By: pmac
I love murder machine but do you reLly think roy was gonna flip i dont hed be doing life with the geminis or gotti would have killed him but who nows. I remember reding he was reching out but thats probaly a feds take.


I really like Murder Machine too. I honestly doubt Roy was reaching out, or even trying to feel out help. I agree it's 100% a take by reporting officers. And like mentioned above, there was little left to even flip on, he would be implicated in those in his crew in anything he could have given them up for. He was between a rock and a hard place towards the end, and I'm sure he saw the signs on the wall that if he was convicted in the auto theft ring he'd likely never get out as they would keep piling on murder charges once they got him off the street.

It's a shame Roy got Henry Borelli jammed up in a bullshit auto ring with Freddie DiNome, not that Borelli was some class act or anything but he really got a raw deal with his sentencing and the entire trial was initiated by investigating the Kuwait car thing. 150 years for taking orders from Roy.

Re: Did (Roy) DeMeo flip? [Re: JackieAprile] #885072
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I'm quite sure in Murder Machine, one of the Feds or maybe Joe Coffey says Costellano was wrong about worrying about Roy flipping. The govt would have never made a deal with him. His crimes were too heinous.


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