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Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn #882724
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Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882725
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That area of Brooklyn is heavily Russian these days.....

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882727
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To be the devil advocate,maybe the russians or others killed the victim in this mode so the police will give all the blame to the italians.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882731
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@furio.... to be not the devil's advocate but the logical voice of reason, maybe "the Russians" didn't do this to sway blame away and this had nothing to do with the Italian Mafia.

Maybe it was a argument gone wrong between two people with no organized criminal connections...

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882732
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Allday27 maybe you're right but because a man that accidently kill a people must use the concrete shoes ? why don't bury him or simple throw him in the river ?

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Read the victim had a virgin mary tattoo. From my knowledge of Russian mobster from watching the Americans on fx they don't believe in religion. And are atheists. So I'm guessing it was probably the Colombo's.

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Pmac for what I know the russian mobster had a lot of tatoo and half all are on the religion. The soviets was atheists.

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Originally Posted By: pmac
Read the victim had a virgin mary tattoo. From my knowledge of Russian mobster from watching the Americans on fx they don't believe in religion. And are atheists. So I'm guessing it was probably the Colombo's.


lol

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Russian soviets what's the difference.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: pmac] #882753
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Read the victim had a virgin mary tattoo. From my knowledge of Russian mobster from watching the Americans on fx they don't believe in religion. And are atheists. So I'm guessing it was probably the Colombo's.


You're right. A witness reported seeing a man in a wheelchair rolling away when the police showed up. It fits. Sonny's in a halfway house.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #882781
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lol smile

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882782
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The body has been confirmed as 28 year old Peter Martinez, a high ranking Crip connected to the GS9 Crew outta Brooklyn, not Russian or Italian. G-Stone Crips New York. Same crew rappers "Bobby Shmurda & Rowdy Rebel" operated within and have been held without bail for the past two years in pending connection to. Both rappers and alleged gang members are now suing the NYPD for false arrest and unlawful detainment. This murder was purely gang related, and strictly about owed debt. Martinez was reported to have been missing for three weeks owed lots of money to several different people allegedly, and also has a long standing record with 31 arrests having recently completed a two year prison sentence.

"Bobby Shmurda" has an upcoming trial May 11th, this will surely come up and be illuminated on.

So we now have the who, the what, the where, the when, the why, and the how.

The body surfaced because air was let into the cement buckets around his feet as they were not left to set properly. The victim was also found beaten with his face duct tapped and body wrapped in plastic.


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bron...ticle-1.2624584

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Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882790
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Just read about this also on another site... Man that gs9 crew cannot catch a break haha. A couple of them were convicted of murder a few weeks back.. Now this just popped up in the middle of their already uphill legal battle... When it rains it pours.. One thing after another popping up to bury these guys .. No sympathy .. Just saying.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: AllDay27] #882793
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lol. they wanted to make an example out of this guy. Yeh that crews done.

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Cement Shoes Were an Urban Crime Myth—Until Now
A Brooklyn street gang member got a mob flick sendoff.
Cement overshoes have long figured in Mafia mythology, but until this week no cop in New York—or seemingly anywhere else in America—had seen them actually used to ensure a victim sleeps with the fishes.
Around 10:20 a.m. Monday, police learned via 911 that a Kingsborough Community College student had spied a body washed up on the Brooklyn shoreline. The body was that of was a 6-foot-1 male wrapped in black plastic contractors bags. His head was entirely covered with grey duct tape. His arms were bound behind him with rope.
And both his feet were embedded in a five-gallon black plastic bucket filled with hardened concrete up to mid-shin.

“I’ve actually never seen cement overshoes before,” a police commander said.
He wondered aloud if this was the work of the Mafia, myth made real.
The mere thought was immediately dismissed by a veteran Brooklyn detective well versed in the mob’s long history in the concrete industry.
“This isn’t the wise guys,” the detective said. “They do concrete better than this. This is a bullshit job!”
The detective’s experienced eye noted that the concrete was honeycombed with air pockets and was generally a less than practiced pour. His immediate appraisal that this was not the work of the Mafia seemed confirmed when the victim was identified.
He was Peter “Petey Crack” Martinez, said by police to be a senior member of the G Stone Crips. Other members of this Brooklyn street gang allegedly include the jailed rap star Bobby Shmurda.
Martinez had been reported missing on Feb. 5 by a lady friend, who told police that she had last seen him as he set off to get his hair braided. Detectives marveled at the perfect condition of Martinez’s braids after almost three months in the water.
“His hair is perfectly braided still,” the commander said. “It’s like he just stepped out of the salon. His fingers fell off, but his hair is beautiful still.”
The commander asked the detectives if there were any bullet wounds.
“Not new ones,” a detective replied.
Martinez had been shot in the leg back in 2008 and his assailant had been arrested. He himself had been arrested 31 times on charges that included burglary and using a forged instrument.
The exact cause of death was to be determined by an autopsy, but it seems that Martinez might very well have been alive when his head was wrapped with the duct tape.
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“Like mummy style,” the commander said.
The detectives were not immediately able to determine if Martinez had been alive when his feet were stuck in the bucket. One reason cement overshoes had remained just a bit of gangland lore for so long is the problem of how to keep the victim’s feet immobile in the stuff until it hardens.
The commander noted that a rope tied the bucket to the body.
“But that doesn’t seem necessary,” the commander said.
However it was done, there was no denying that through the months in the water—which apparently included what would have been Martinez’s 28th birthday in March—his feet had remained solidly in the concrete despite the questionable quality of the pour.
“You could actually stand him up like a statue if you wanted,” the commander said. “Not that you would want to.”
The cement overshoes had apparently served their immediate purpose and Martinez had not just popped to the surface when the water warmed, as bodies often do in New York waters. He and his concrete overshoes seemed to have finally been dragged to Manhattan Beach by the strong currents in that particular area.
Back in 2011, a man was found actually wearing cement overshoes at the Antalya waterfalls in Turkey. But numerous other reports and rumors of cement overshoes in various countries over the years appear to have been unsubstantiated.
One might argue that the reason no cases have been confirmed is that cement overshoes have effectively caused bodies to disappear. But the Mafia has been riddled with so many high-level informants in recent years that at least one instance would almost certainly have come to light had there been any. Cement overshoes seemed to have been the stuff of street corner fantasies and tough guy novels.
Until now.
The police commander theorized that the killers had been acting out something they had seen in some mob flick.
“They wanted to be gangsters,” the commander suggested.
The cinematic effect was heightened by a large tattoo on the victim’s back.
“It is an image of the Virgin Mary with a rose,” Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce said at a press briefing.
Boyce proved a master of terse summary after he described the black plastic and the duct tape and the feet “submerged in poured concrete.”
“Obviously a homicide,” Boyce said.
Martinez was found wearing a black jacket, grey sweatpants, and blue boxer shorts under the black plastic bags. The rental car he had on the day of his disappearance had been found abandoned. There are several theories as to why he had met his particular end, ranging from gang rivalry to a drug deal gone bad to an unpaid debt to a failed scam.
The commander was able to make one deduction with some confidence about the man who wore New York’s first cement overshoes on record.
“He pissed somebody off,” the commander said.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882799
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Is it just me or is the article above hilarious?? Lol I felt like I was reading the Onion

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Wilson101] #882814
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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
Is it just me or is the article above hilarious?? Lol I felt like I was reading the Onion


No it is hilarious. I especially like this line from the detective.

The mere thought was immediately dismissed by a veteran Brooklyn detective well versed in the mob’s long history in the concrete industry.
“This isn’t the wise guys,” the detective said. “They do concrete better than this. This is a bullshit job!”


It's true. The five families did have the "Concrete Club" back in the day! lol

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Wonder who in the crew had a boat? Or did they walk out on a jeti or pier and throw him in. Then he body washed up. And you wonder if his killers have a few more guys out in the ocean. Remember the feds leaked to all the papers that Colombo underboss was in the ocean. They were way off they found him in a hole.

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The detective called it a poor quality and yet it was a successul job. He been missing since February and now appears on shore. Viewers don't know how often this method is used but automatically assume it's LCN related, LoL, goes to show that various criminal groups use the same tactics. G-Stone 90s still active and haven't been decimated yet.


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It was poor quality... Only lasted a couple months.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: mightyhealthy] #882823
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It was probably a funny idea they had whilst they were beating him.

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He owed a large debt and somebody decided to make him pay. This was a methodical killing in which the assailants took their time. The GS9 are known for their overt shootings and a few quiet ones. They chose to go through the cement shoes tactic when it's obviously they could of execution style via headshot. A quiet route probably meant serious business and perhaps a rival group ( Folks Nation/GDs, etc) is responsible for his death.


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Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: Jenkins] #882837
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I don't know about concrete shoes, but in the Valachi Papers, Joe Valachi talks about putting a guy in an oil drum and filling it with concrete and dumping it in the East River.

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Whatever message they were trying to send has backfired.

This is a story getting a lot of coverage and with so many surveillance cameras working 24/7 in NY and especially around waterways...gonna be heat on law enforcement to actually try to solve this case.

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When I read the topic, thought it was about lead foot center of the Brooklyn Nets Brook Lopez.

Re: Body with concrete shoes in Brooklyn [Re: getthesenets] #882901
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This is actually the first documented case of this particular style of execution. Definitely up their with the colombian necktie especially if he was alive when they threw him in the water.

Is GS9 that big as in terms of numbers?

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Scorsese,

Mostly Bloods in NY...so crips don't have the numbers.....and gs9 is not a big set. The sets take on the personality/reputation of the area they were formed in and Flatbush section of Brooklyn has been a violent place since before the crack era...

Heavy Caribbean population.

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thanks. this sounds more like he was killed by a drugs supplier than a rival gang.

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GS9 isn't big, but GS9 is merely a subset of the G-Stone Crips, which have a pretty big presence in Brooklyn and Long Island. They're mainly a Brooklyn set, but they've managed to venture outside of Brooklyn and set up in Queens and Nassau County.

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Anybody remember the old movie where there is a scene where they kill a guy with concrete shoes? I saw a movie like that on TV when I was a kid, but I don't remember the name of it.

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