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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Footreads] #898175
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
I think he won for a lot of reasons.

First people thought he would help the economy.

We don't make much anymore. People want to buy made in America I know I do.

Unions actually thought trump would help them.

We need a border. Try to sneak into Mexico and see what happens.

Less taxes give business certainty so they can expand.

I can go,on and on.

He just talks like he is still a kid. He thinks everyone is his friend. In that regard he is like my youngest son. Women gravitate to money and power. It is hard to not be tempted by them. After all most of us think with our dicks don't believe it just as Bill Clinton.

I think he is still a democrat in a lot of ways. That might help him to actually help minorities get the training some of them need to learn a trade and to keep the country from turning socialist.



I think immigration was a key factor....and Trump was able to key into people's frustration with the economy as it is. I doubt that many people are naive enough to actually believe Trump has a magic wand and that he can "fix" things single handedly, but the language and rhetoric he used fired them up.

You get what you pay for,though.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: IvyLeague] #898176
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Still no Oak, huh? What a gutless wonder. I guess it's not surprising. 90% of his posts were in this section proclaiming Hillary's inevitable win and other liberal BS. Besides not wanting to eat crow, he has no purpose on the board now.


Oak is on vacation for flaming others. And Ivy, I'm sick and tired of you bad-mouthing others here. You're on a thin thread here. I'd ask you to apologize to Oak for those words above but I know you're not man enough to make an apology. You were in this same situation a few years back with another member and you refused to apologize. You were suspended for a short time and swore you'd never return yet here you are still flaming anyone with a different agenda than yours. This is a final warning to stop this shit.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Footreads] #898177
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Originally Posted By: Footreads


Unions actually thought trump would help them.



Especially the PBA


I think a lot of people voter against the extremely far left idealogy that in recent years has been jammed down peoples throat.

Middle class America is tired of being treated like crap so they votes for Trump to say f you to the establishment. Just my opinion


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: SC] #898178
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Still no Oak, huh? What a gutless wonder. I guess it's not surprising. 90% of his posts were in this section proclaiming Hillary's inevitable win and other liberal BS. Besides not wanting to eat crow, he has no purpose on the board now.


Oak is on vacation for flaming others. And Ivy, I'm sick and tired of you bad-mouthing others here. You're on a thin thread here. I'd ask you to apologize to Oak for those words above but I know you're not man enough to make an apology. You were in this same situation a few years back with another member and you refused to apologize. You were suspended for a short time and swore you'd never return yet here you are still flaming anyone with a different agenda than yours. This is a final warning to stop this shit.


I'd apologize if I had something to apologize for. But I don't. And when did I ever swear to not come back? And why am I talking to a guy, in a political thread, who thinks the only reason people were critical of Obama is because they're racist? I'm sure you're still pissed about the election, SC, but don't take it out on me.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: IvyLeague] #898179
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
I'd apologize if I had something to apologize for. But I don't.


You have a lot to apologize for. You just don't get it, do ya? You flame anyone who has a different agenda than yours. You are a disruptive force here. You were given plenty of warnings about the flaming remarks but you always chose to ignore them. You are gone.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: IvyLeague] #898180
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Still no Oak, huh? What a gutless wonder. I guess it's not surprising. 90% of his posts were in this section proclaiming Hillary's inevitable win and other liberal BS. Besides not wanting to eat crow, he has no purpose on the board now.

Speaking of liberals, they're scumbags as usual. People don't realize just how anti-democratic they are.


Anti-Trump Protest In Portland, Ore., Turns Destructive, Declared A Riot
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2...declared-a-riot


Millions Sign Onto Call for Electoral College to Award the Presidency to Popular Vote Winner Clinton
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/16807





Because those millions never learned civics in school.

Why we use electoral college and not popular vote


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898181
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The electoral college is designed to have two functions. First, is that it was supposed to be a group of enlightened people that would provide a check on the mob to prevent a demagogue from being elected. This is simply a failure. The US Constitution didn't properly anticipate the inevitable rise of political parties. Outside of slavery, this is its key defect. Electoral college voters are selected for party loyalty and will vote for (by law in a bunch of states) their party leader who won the state. It is simply a rubber stamp and you could entirely do away with the human element and make it about numbers.

Second, the electoral college is designed to be a federalist attempt to balance proportional representation with local self-determination. Small states get outsized power over larger ones by design in order to allow them to protect their interests. We're just at a unique cross-roads where political parties have sorted by population density and one party is now using this advantage to dominate the other. It doesn't help that this party has gone crazy.

I favor an electoral college system, but the arbitrary math behind it has gotten very out of whack. As the country gets unequally larger and larger, the voting power disparities become greater and greater. In an ideal world, we'd come up with a better mathematical solution


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898182
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Did you look at my video?


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898183
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Why would i need to? I understand the EC without help from Prager U. If i want a 5 minute university I'll enroll at Father Guido Sarducci's.


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I never met anyone who didn't have a very smart child. What happens to these children, you wonder, when they reach adulthood?



Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898185
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Funny now the Left is talking about secession. I got called racist for suggesting this country is too big with too many different cultures and political rivalries to be under one government. This is the butt hurt everyone gets for being in favor of one big centralized state.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898191
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OK Trump is in. We must accept it just like we had to accept Obama. I doubt that it will have any direct on out personal lives.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898207
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trump said today he won't touch medicare, and social security. that's a relief to me, ryan, and mcconnel both want to end entitlements, great to have the prez in my corner when the far right want's to cut these programs. great thing for him to say.



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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898209
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He said he will protect LGBQ probably pretty strange forba republican probably something you aren't so keen on


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He always said he wasn't going to cut SS and Medicare. I don't get why LGBQ people are flipping out either. You finally got a republican president that isn't a conservative. Not on economics, not on social issues except abortion. He ran to the Left of Hillary on foreign policy... and people are scared..I guess it's the media's fault.

The only people that should maybe be worried is illegal immigrants and even that's something he's softened on. This country has gotten so dramatic.

Actually one of the reasons I don't support him is because he's for big government. He's likely to add to the growing debt and not solve our real problems.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898215
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Mood.



"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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That picture looks like a group of weak people of whom only one could have voted. She should be a mother to her daughter instead of treating her daughter like she was talking to a friend.

Oak were you crying as well? Should have taken a picture of that instead.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898217
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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
trump said today he won't touch medicare, and social security. that's a relief to me, ryan, and mcconnel both want to end entitlements, great to have the prez in my corner when the far right want's to cut these programs. great thing for him to say.


Jesus Binnie he said he would not touch social security more then a year ago. Who the hell our you listening to.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #898218
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Crying? Not really.

Nauseous and confused for a few days? Yeah. Pretty much.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Call me crazy, but does anyone else think that Trump is going to pull an Earl Warren?


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I'm spending the weekend here in N.Y. My friends and I were taking a subway from Manhattan to queens. I having a conversation with a guy on the train. Everything was going well. Then, he asks me if I'm from the red or blue part of Florida. When my answer to the question he asked want the answer he wanted, this fucking guy flipped his lid. "You seemed like such a good guy. But I was right, Florida is the bottom of the barrel of this country. You guys have no clue about how the world works." I asked him if he referred to himself as oaks fan. I was wrong. Just some other 300 pound gay guy.

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Funny enough since the election results my cousin has been suffering from rage crying? All I can do OS shake my head. Word is she won't speak to me or my family (which is fine since we haven't spoken in 2 years) not because we voted for Trump but because we didn't vote for Hilary voted third party. All I can say is grow up, he probably won't change your life that much


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Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87
Funny enough since the election results my cousin has been suffering from rage crying? All I can do OS shake my head. Word is she won't speak to me or my family (which is fine since we haven't spoken in 2 years) not because we voted for Trump but because we didn't vote for Hilary voted third party. All I can say is grow up, he probably won't change your life that much


Crying like a toddler won't change things, people must learn to respect democracy.

It chilled me to the bones to watch tv and see packs of degenerates riot in the streets over the result.

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Don't make me have to pull up youtubes of Republicans crying and saying cray things when McCain and Romney lost.

Anyhow, this is relevant.



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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
Call me crazy, but does anyone else think that Trump is going to pull an Earl Warren?


that's funny,and I think you could be right, I would love to see paul ryan's and mitch Mconnel's faces when he does that, shoot down ryan's budget, ignore ted cruz, keep Obama care but make it work for the good of everyone. shore up social security and medicare, remember he always was a democrat !!!



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Originally Posted By: thedudeabides87
Funny enough since the election results my cousin has been suffering from rage crying? All I can do OS shake my head. Word is she won't speak to me or my family (which is fine since we haven't spoken in 2 years) not because we voted for Trump but because we didn't vote for Hilary voted third party. All I can say is grow up, he probably won't change your life that much


I think you are right duke, I don't think there is much reason to fear him so, now I would fear ted cruz, thank god he's not in, but, as far as influencing one's daily life, I don't think so.



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He's already moving to the center on Obamacare. The tea party types can't be happy about that. Day one and they already heard something they didn't want to hear. Watch the right call for Trump's impeachment before he's even inaugurated.


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This is what is going to happen. He is going to keep pre existing condition he is going to keep kids coverage under the family until 26 unless they get a job before then with coverage.

Your going to have more choice then obama care now. It going to be cheaper because you will have more choices.

Your going to get health saving account and you can go to it if you lose your current job.

Also their won't be a time with obama care people will lose their coverage.

I would not even be surprised if trump kept the name obama care except New and improved obama care.

People will still complain about it because that is with the extreme left does.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
He's already moving to the center on Obamacare. The tea party types can't be happy about that. Day one and they already heard something they didn't want to hear. Watch the right call for Trump's impeachment before he's even inaugurated.


yeah, oak, they will hate him as much as Hillary, and the dems will never let him be impeached, hope he gets two terms now, and lets the far right twist in the wind. they deserve it !!



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Binnie, I'm really starting to wonder if this is going to happen. Trump was a Democrat less than a decade ago. It's not like he comes from a conservative background, like most Republicans. He can switch any time. He already has backpedaled on Obamacare. His rhetoric throughout the campaign was to get rid of Obamacare outright. A lot of people that voted for him can't be happy to hear that he's softening his stance. Buyer's remorse, day one. This is entertaining, if nothing else.

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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Don't make me have to pull up youtubes of Republicans crying and saying cray things when McCain and Romney lost.

Anyhow, this is relevant.





Yeah, I remember when the Republicans were rioting in the streets of major cities across the country after McCain lost in 2008 and Romney in 2012. Burning flags, vandalizing property, chanting "F___ Obama!", assaulting people...oh, wait, that never happened.

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