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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: OakAsFan] #897653
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Faithful, your obsession with how I get my news is starting to get creepy. All I told you was that I don't watch cable news anymore. I think it's boring. All of it. I get my information online, utilizing current technology, what a concept. I watch the local news to see if anything crazy happened in my neighborhood. That's as far as my tv news watching goes. And, I have no idea who those two people were you brought up, connected to Clinton or CNN or something. Never heard of them. Don't care.


Wow, now you play the victim card because I discussed your news sources? You seriously need to grow up.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897657
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Keep telling people to grow up while having the pro wrestling avatar, Faithful 1. It's a nice touch.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Keep telling people to grow up while having the pro wrestling avatar, Faithful 1. It's a nice touch.


Yes, a wrestler as opposed to your mobster avatar. BTW, that's really creepy how you criticize my Undertaker avatar. I may have to find a safe space.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897660
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I'm not sure what you're talking about, Faitfhul1. you have this habit of trying to start conversations with me about these cryptic topics. maybe you're mistaking me for someone else. I think in the past you accused me of being a previously banned poster, or something. Whatever the case, it's pretty funny. You're just amusing me. So, do your thing.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: OakAsFan] #897664
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Ivy League, I'm not sure where you've been since 2008, but nobody cares about Rudy Giuliani or what he thinks anymore. Just saying.


Typical Oak non-response.


Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
This whole thing about both candidates being equally as bad is part of the Trump strategy. They're being used. The Trump campaign is trying to capitalize on this simple minded, lazy apathy. Kind of funny really that people walk around thinking they're independent when they're really playing right into the Trump's hand and campaigning for him without even knowing it. You just can't tell them anything. It's like telling a kid the truth about Santa. You don't want to make them cry. lol.


Who said they are equally as bad? Its not equal. As bad as Trump is, Hillary is even worse.

But you still won't acknowledge that fact. You don't just think she's the lesser of the two evils, like many amoral liberals, you think she's a good candidate. Heck, you're the fool who asked a while back if "the Clintons had been corrupted."

You are either a troll or truly one of the most clueless posters ever on these boards. You're the exact kind of low intelligence, low info voter Hillary is counting on to win.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: OakAsFan] #897671
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
SoCal, keep making one comment after another trying to convince people you don't care about the election. This is honestly like your hundredth comment saying this. The best way to convince people you don't care about something is to not talk about it. Clearly that's not an option for you. lol.



Wrong again. Never said that "don't care about the election."
In fact I care enough that I cannot in good conscience support the candidates.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897696
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fbi,,,, known as trumpland, gulliani said on fox news, 2 days before comey sent his letter, something big is coming "big grin" in a few days, he was told of comeys letter by active fbi agents, and rogue fbi agents are as we speak, trying to sway the election to trump.



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They can't undo Trump's behavior. They have until tuesday to find a picture of Hillary twerking for Bin Laden somewhere in those emails. Clock's ticking.


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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
They can't undo Trump's behavior. They have until tuesday to find a picture of Hillary twerking for Bin Laden somewhere in those emails. Clock's ticking.


just in sunday the 6th comey found nothing but duplicates, exonerates Hillary, again, question.. why send a letter to congress without going through the e-mails first, now I wonder if there were nothing but a few e-mails, not the 650,0000 fbi claimed, and what exactly was the true purpose of writing congress about nothing.



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Why would even the FBI want Trump in there? He's so crazy could anyone trust him to carry out their agenda? I think a lot of these establishment Republicans just can't stand the taste of the Clintons moving back to the white house. Think of all the effort they put into to tarnishing the Clinton name during Lewinksy then after 9/11. The name Clinton was almost synonymous with the name Bin Laden in those few years after 9/11. Not only do the neo cons fall apart, but now the Clintons are poised to waltz right back into the white house? I think these Republicans just can't help themselves. They feel like they have to do whatever they can.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897853
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I fear the far right wants him in there so they can with gannon, and gulliani, stack the supreme court with far right zealots, put an end to abortions, roll back voting rights for minorities, suspend parts of the constitution, trump and his people, have no regard or respect for the rule of law, neither does the fbi. a perfect match, fbi now trumps KBG.



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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: OakAsFan] #897854
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
Why would even the FBI want Trump in there? He's so crazy could anyone trust him to carry out their agenda? I think a lot of these establishment Republicans just can't stand the taste of the Clintons moving back to the white house. Think of all the effort they put into to tarnishing the Clinton name during Lewinksy then after 9/11. The name Clinton was almost synonymous with the name Bin Laden in those few years after 9/11. Not only do the neo cons fall apart, but now the Clintons are poised to waltz right back into the white house? I think these Republicans just can't help themselves. They feel like they have to do whatever they can.


The neo cons fall apart? Half of them support Hillary. She's the neo con candidate this election. William Kristol, the main neo con of the conservatives is like the heart of the Never Trump crowd and of course the neo con Bush's.

Trump isn't pro war, pro regime change, pro interventionist enough for them. Hillary is basically Goerge Bush on foreign policy. So of course they like her.

Trump is the nationalist, protectionist, populist candidate. The strongman leader making outrageous promises to people that image he's the answer to all problems in the country.



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My vote is switching to Hillary. Johnson is too much of an idiot for me. If Trump wins, the United States will cease to exist, and America will be it's official name. I never thought I would agree will a bunch of Mormons (I have agreed with some on topics) but this group actually don't want Trump in the office, and half of them are willing to vote for Hillary (which astonish me, since it is unlike a Mormon to vote for a liar or cheat) cause she is the lesser of two evils. One of them, a war veteran, actually had the same thought as me over the nukes we have and who should have command over them.


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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
My vote is switching to Hillary. Johnson is too much of an idiot for me. If Trump wins, the United States will cease to exist, and America will be it's official name. I never thought I would agree will a bunch of Mormons (I have agreed with some on topics) but this group actually don't want Trump in the office, and half of them are willing to vote for Hillary (which astonish me, since it is unlike a Mormon to vote for a liar or cheat) cause she is the lesser of two evils. One of them, a war veteran, actually had the same thought as me over the nukes we have and who should have command over them.


As a Mormon, I can assure you nowhere near half of us are voting for Hillary. And most consider her the worst of the two. It's just that many don't like Trump either. A lot will likely vote for McMullin. Many in Utah just may stay home, perhaps assuming the state will go Republican anyway but they don't have to hold their noses and vote for Trump.

By the way, all this talk about "America ceasing to exist" if Trump wins is hyperbolic nonsense. Even Hillary, as awful as she is, won't destroy the country. Like Obama, she'll just damage it a whole lot more and bring it closer to inevitable ruin.

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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897866
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I was not saying that as a whole, only the group 16, I was talking to. 5 said they are voting for Hillary, 6 for McMullen, 1 for Johnson, and 4 said they won't vote. That was just a group I had talked to at a few social gatherings.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: IvyLeague] #897867
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
My vote is switching to Hillary. Johnson is too much of an idiot for me. If Trump wins, the United States will cease to exist, and America will be it's official name. I never thought I would agree will a bunch of Mormons (I have agreed with some on topics) but this group actually don't want Trump in the office, and half of them are willing to vote for Hillary (which astonish me, since it is unlike a Mormon to vote for a liar or cheat) cause she is the lesser of two evils. One of them, a war veteran, actually had the same thought as me over the nukes we have and who should have command over them.


As a Mormon, I can assure you nowhere near half of us are voting for Hillary. And most consider her the worst of the two. It's just that many don't like Trump either. A lot will likely vote for McMullin. Many in Utah just may stay home, perhaps assuming the state will go Republican anyway but they don't have to hold their noses and vote for Trump.

By the way, all this talk about "America ceasing to exist" if Trump wins is hyperbolic nonsense. Even Hillary, as awful as she is, won't destroy the country. Like Obama, she'll just damage it a whole lot more and bring it closer to inevitable ruin.


I don't know if you are in Utah but I am curious - how realistic is it for McMullan to actually win Utah? Right now, I think that is the only state that may go third party but have not seen any recent polls from there.

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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
My vote is switching to Hillary. Johnson is too much of an idiot for me. If Trump wins, the United States will cease to exist, and America will be it's official name. I never thought I would agree will a bunch of Mormons (I have agreed with some on topics) but this group actually don't want Trump in the office, and half of them are willing to vote for Hillary (which astonish me, since it is unlike a Mormon to vote for a liar or cheat) cause she is the lesser of two evils. One of them, a war veteran, actually had the same thought as me over the nukes we have and who should have command over them.


As a Mormon, I can assure you nowhere near half of us are voting for Hillary. And most consider her the worst of the two. It's just that many don't like Trump either. A lot will likely vote for McMullin. Many in Utah just may stay home, perhaps assuming the state will go Republican anyway but they don't have to hold their noses and vote for Trump.

By the way, all this talk about "America ceasing to exist" if Trump wins is hyperbolic nonsense. Even Hillary, as awful as she is, won't destroy the country. Like Obama, she'll just damage it a whole lot more and bring it closer to inevitable ruin.


I don't know if you are in Utah but I am curious - how realistic is it for McMullan to actually win Utah? Right now, I think that is the only state that may go third party but have not seen any recent polls from there.


Yes, I live in Utah. Mormons still make up at least 60% of the state. I imagine we'll see a lot of them vote for McMullin, a lesser amount vote for Trump, and a small minority vote for Hillary. But as much as I'd like to see Utah go for McMullin, if only to send a message, you also have to figure in the non-Mormon votes in the state. Among those, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were roughly divided between Trump and Hillary. So which way the state will go as a whole is hard to predict. Obviously a lot depends on whether people decide to vote or just stay home.


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Utah's in play. Get 'em, Hill.


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It's not gonna happen this time but I find it fascinating that a candidate could win one state and if that deprives all others of reaching 270 electoral votes, that the House could put that one-state winner into the White House. (House gets to choose from among the top three electoral vote winners). A Republican house that largely abhors Trump just might have done it.

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I'm going with Larry Sabato's Electoral College prediction: Clinton 322 and Trump 216.


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Mr. Blonde, I heard a radio host breaking down that process today. If I heard him correctly, it also involves electing the vice president aside from the president, so there could be a pres and VP of different parties. Clinton and Pence could work. Trump and Kaine would be like a horrible SNL skit.


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“But, you know, Trump voters—really? Not even the guy who says he wants to f*ck his daughter? This is not a deal-breaker for you? I mean, what does it take? A racist, a liar, a tax cheat, a draft-dodger, a deadbeat, a Russian agent, and a rapist. You know we’re a nuclear power, right? These are red flags.” - Bill Maher


Not a political guy fellas. I know you guys are really passionate and heated about this debate, but in reality these are the two worst presidential candidates in the history of the United States. We went from a great nation of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan to George W. Bush, Obama, and Hillary or Donald. It's sad honestly and nothing will change whoever is elected. Hillary is a lying shyster and Donald is an egotistical douche. To support Donald is no different than supporting Hillary. Same thing. It's like arguing that your football team at 1-15 isn't as bad as the other team that finished 1-15. America is more divided than ever.


This is just ridiculous.

Donald Trump is hoping for a few thousand people like you in each swing state. It's his only chance. As much as you pretend to be independent, Trump's campaign team couldn't have written that apathetic statement of yours any better. Not bad for someone who's "not a political guy".

Donald Trump has proven himself to be a pervert.

He's proven himself to be an emotional wreck.

At this point, anyone who isn't voting for Clinton is either for Trump, or crazy. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're a closet Trump supporter, because I don't want to insult you by assuming you really might believe anything you just said.
I am not voting for anybody. Most Hillary supporters are just as bad as Trump supporters, they just fail to see the perspective from the other side. I am an independent thinker. Nothing much will change whoever is elected. I didn't like George W. Bush nor Obama. As we can see Bush lied and got us into Iraq, Obama lied about "Change we can believe in". Maybe it wasn't a lie, but the only change I have seen is for the worst. I have noticed that Hillary supporters are way more aggressive and quick with insults after I tell them my stance of not voting for her, yet not voting for Trump either. Johnson isn't qualified nor is Jill Stein so I will not vote. I don't know why they are that way, but I will tell you that leaning voters will lean toward Trump when treated with the vitriol that Hillary supporters cast on people. I, myself, do not sway so easily to insults and will stand firm on my stance of not voting for either candidate. They both have so many bad qualities and are so unfit to lead this country I can not morally vote for either candidate. I'll take the high road and pray for the country, work hard, and continue to live a legal lifestyle with a strong moral confidence and hope for the best.

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Last I will say on this subject. If you want to vote for Hillary, it is your right to do so. God speed and good luck. If you want to vote for Trump, it is your right to do so. God speed and good luck. And if another person doesn't want to vote for your candidate, don't call them stupid and uninformed. It is our right as American Citizens to be just as stupid as the rest of youse!

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Originally Posted By: carlitosway
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
“But, you know, Trump voters—really? Not even the guy who says he wants to f*ck his daughter? This is not a deal-breaker for you? I mean, what does it take? A racist, a liar, a tax cheat, a draft-dodger, a deadbeat, a Russian agent, and a rapist. You know we’re a nuclear power, right? These are red flags.” - Bill Maher


Not a political guy fellas. I know you guys are really passionate and heated about this debate, but in reality these are the two worst presidential candidates in the history of the United States. We went from a great nation of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan to George W. Bush, Obama, and Hillary or Donald. It's sad honestly and nothing will change whoever is elected. Hillary is a lying shyster and Donald is an egotistical douche. To support Donald is no different than supporting Hillary. Same thing. It's like arguing that your football team at 1-15 isn't as bad as the other team that finished 1-15. America is more divided than ever.


This is just ridiculous.

Donald Trump is hoping for a few thousand people like you in each swing state. It's his only chance. As much as you pretend to be independent, Trump's campaign team couldn't have written that apathetic statement of yours any better. Not bad for someone who's "not a political guy".

Donald Trump has proven himself to be a pervert.

He's proven himself to be an emotional wreck.

At this point, anyone who isn't voting for Clinton is either for Trump, or crazy. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're a closet Trump supporter, because I don't want to insult you by assuming you really might believe anything you just said.
I am not voting for anybody. Most Hillary supporters are just as bad as Trump supporters, they just fail to see the perspective from the other side. I am an independent thinker. Nothing much will change whoever is elected. I didn't like George W. Bush nor Obama. As we can see Bush lied and got us into Iraq, Obama lied about "Change we can believe in". Maybe it wasn't a lie, but the only change I have seen is for the worst. I have noticed that Hillary supporters are way more aggressive and quick with insults after I tell them my stance of not voting for her, yet not voting for Trump either. Johnson isn't qualified nor is Jill Stein so I will not vote. I don't know why they are that way, but I will tell you that leaning voters will lean toward Trump when treated with the vitriol that Hillary supporters cast on people. I, myself, do not sway so easily to insults and will stand firm on my stance of not voting for either candidate. They both have so many bad qualities and are so unfit to lead this country I can not morally vote for either candidate. I'll take the high road and pray for the country, work hard, and continue to live a legal lifestyle with a strong moral confidence and hope for the best.


Yeah, went to the courthouse and there were a few Hillary supporters that could mingle into the Trump supporters and you would not tell the difference until they said who they were voting for. If William instead of Johnson was running or president in the Libertarian party, I would have voted. The thing that gets me the most, is people who don't vote, then complain about the elected presidents.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: carlitosway] #897948
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
“But, you know, Trump voters—really? Not even the guy who says he wants to f*ck his daughter? This is not a deal-breaker for you? I mean, what does it take? A racist, a liar, a tax cheat, a draft-dodger, a deadbeat, a Russian agent, and a rapist. You know we’re a nuclear power, right? These are red flags.” - Bill Maher


Not a political guy fellas. I know you guys are really passionate and heated about this debate, but in reality these are the two worst presidential candidates in the history of the United States. We went from a great nation of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan to George W. Bush, Obama, and Hillary or Donald. It's sad honestly and nothing will change whoever is elected. Hillary is a lying shyster and Donald is an egotistical douche. To support Donald is no different than supporting Hillary. Same thing. It's like arguing that your football team at 1-15 isn't as bad as the other team that finished 1-15. America is more divided than ever.


This is just ridiculous.

Donald Trump is hoping for a few thousand people like you in each swing state. It's his only chance. As much as you pretend to be independent, Trump's campaign team couldn't have written that apathetic statement of yours any better. Not bad for someone who's "not a political guy".

Donald Trump has proven himself to be a pervert.

He's proven himself to be an emotional wreck.

At this point, anyone who isn't voting for Clinton is either for Trump, or crazy. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you're a closet Trump supporter, because I don't want to insult you by assuming you really might believe anything you just said.
I am not voting for anybody. Most Hillary supporters are just as bad as Trump supporters, they just fail to see the perspective from the other side. I am an independent thinker. Nothing much will change whoever is elected. I didn't like George W. Bush nor Obama. As we can see Bush lied and got us into Iraq, Obama lied about "Change we can believe in". Maybe it wasn't a lie, but the only change I have seen is for the worst. I have noticed that Hillary supporters are way more aggressive and quick with insults after I tell them my stance of not voting for her, yet not voting for Trump either. Johnson isn't qualified nor is Jill Stein so I will not vote. I don't know why they are that way, but I will tell you that leaning voters will lean toward Trump when treated with the vitriol that Hillary supporters cast on people. I, myself, do not sway so easily to insults and will stand firm on my stance of not voting for either candidate. They both have so many bad qualities and are so unfit to lead this country I can not morally vote for either candidate. I'll take the high road and pray for the country, work hard, and continue to live a legal lifestyle with a strong moral confidence and hope for the best.


I've done this before - purposely leaving a ballot spot blank because I couldn't support either/any listed candidate. I still voted in the other races. Didn't do that today but I get it.

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897963
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For what it's worth, Robert DeNiro is endorsing Clinton

http://sportingz.com/opinions/who-are-celebs-voting-for/35/

Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897965
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I understand why some would not vote for Johnson, but knowing he won't win and with these candidates why not? For only my third presidential election, I proudly voted 3rd party and convinced 4 people to do the same.

Edit: 5 my mom voted Jill Stein

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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man.
Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Mr. Blonde] #897969
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Blonde
For what it's worth, Robert DeNiro is endorsing Clinton

http://sportingz.com/opinions/who-are-celebs-voting-for/35/


DeNiro as an actor aside, if you go on YouTube out can see a rant he did about Trump. Much of it absolutely true. But not a peep about all that's wrong with Clinton. Typical Hollywood lefty.


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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897970
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well trump won. unbelievable........ but, the people have spoken.



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Re: what if trumps wins the presidency? [Re: Binnie_Coll] #897972
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Binnie this is crazy, the people wanted something different

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@ 12:03 EST Thus far

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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man.
Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?


Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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