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Italian Mafia running guns for ISIS in Europe #879230
03/24/16 05:07 PM
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If true this has to be the most deplorable thing any Mafia group in Italy has ever been involved in. European men aiding and abetting radical Islamic rats.

As this goes on southern Italy is swamped with wave after wave of illegal immigrants from the middle east and Africa. Europe is in genuine trouble and these treacherous bastards see it as a business opportunity. Absolutely disgusting!

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Chechen and Triad Mobs have been doing it for years. The Russian mafia has been doing it for their support of Syria which use to be a safe heaven for Russian crime Lords till Putin got involved. There is money to be made with ISIS, and they have the money to spend due to now they pretty much have an terrorist state. If there is money to be made, then there will always be guys looking for a cash flow. Don't be surprise, it is only business for these people, patriotic comes later for them, they look at the dollar signs first.


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I guess running millions of dollars of dope in their own countries isn't unpatriotic . Lol most these guys rape and kill from the time their balls drop. Only part that suprises me is it just now made the paper.

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Well I'll it give to the American mob, at least they're patriotic enough not to deal with terrorists.

Although I guess this protects Italy from terrorism, since why would they attack the ones who brings them to Europe, gives them a fake passport and Kalashnikov.

After learning this, I'm all for the Mussolini method. Collateral damage? Don't care.

Re: Italian Mafia running guns for ISIS in Europe [Re: sbhc] #879247
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They're aiding our enemies. The Islamists are using the 'refugee' crisis (Vast majority are economic migrants) to flood Europe with hundreds of thousands of uneducated Muslims with many more on the way. Their culture is incompatible with modern western thinking, hence all the social unrest the migrants are causing. Sex crimes for instance have sky rocketed, I'm sure many of you have heard about the terrible stories coming from Germany and Sweden in particular.

This is something which has the potential to affect every European and his children. Treason cannot be tolerated.

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Look into how women were treated in Germany after the invasionof WWII .Nobody in this world is innocent.

Take the log out of your eye before you try to remove the splinter from your enemy's .

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I don't know if the Europol is right, but they estimate there is between 3000-5000 people connected with ISIS in Europe: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ter_dailymailUK

But yeah, find a European criminal organization aiding this? Fuck rights. Swift executions.

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You shouldve took over after Bush.

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I think it's mostly Camorra, they deal with anybody if they can make some money. Toto Riina is against ISIS and he's still boss of bosses of Cosa Nostra.


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A couple of excerpts for a little back round on the Cammora;
“Thirty or so AK-47s had arrived the night before from Eastern Europe. From Macedonia. Skopje to Gricignano d’Aversa, a quick, easy trip that filled the Camorra garages with firepower. As soon as the Iron Curtain fell, Camorra members met with leaders of the crumbling Communist parties. They sat at the bargaining table representing the powerful, capable, and silent West. Aware of the crisis, the clans informally acquired entire arms depots from Eastern European countries—Romania, Poland, the former Yugoslavia—paying for years the salaries....





“The wisdom of power has a patience the best businessmen often lack. In 1977 the Casalesi clan had negotiated the purchase of some tanks, and the Italian secret service reported that a dismantled Leopard tank was at the train station in Villa Literno, ready to be shipped. The Camorra had long been dealing in Leopards. In February 1986 a wiretapped conversation revealed the Nuvoletta clan’s negotiations for the purchase of Leopards from what was then East Germany. Even with the turnover in leadership, the Casalesi clan remained the international point of reference for groups as well as entire armies. A 1994 report from SISMI, the Italian Military Intelligence and Security Service, and the counterespionage center in Verona indicated that Željko Razžnatović, better known as Arkan, was in communication with Sandokan Schiavone, the head of the Casalesi clan. Arkan, who was killed in 2000 in a hotel in Belgrade, was one of the most ruthless Serbian war criminals, the founder of the Serb Volunteer Guard, the nationalist group that razed Muslim villages in Bosnia to the ground. The two became allies. Arkan asked for arms for his guerrilla fighters, and above all for the possibility to circumvent the embargo imposed on Serbia by bringing in capital and weapons disguised as humanitarian aid: camp hospitals, medicine, and medical supplies. According to SISMI, however, Serbia actually paid for the provisions—worth tens of millions of dollars—out of bank accounts in Austria containing $85 million. The money was then handed over to an entity allied with the Serbia and Campania clans, which purchased from interested companies the merchandise to be given as humanitarian aid, paying with money earned through illegal activities. This is where the Casalesi clans came in. They allowed the money laundering by making available companies, transportation, and goods. According to the reports, Arkan, through his intermediaries, asked the Casalesi clan to silence the Albanian Mafiosi who could have ruined his money war by attacking from the south and blocking the arms traffic. The Casalesi clan pacified its Albanian allies with arms, thus allowing Arkan a peaceful war. In exchange, clan businessmen bought up companies, stores, and farms at favorable prices, and Italian entrepreneurship spread throughout Serbia. Before going into battle, Arkan had contacted the Camorra. From South America to the Balkans, wars are fought with the weaponry of Campania families.”



THEY SUPPLY EVERYONE WITH WEAPONS (Think of the Sopranos episode when he goes to Naples, and the conversation Tony had at the table) " Slovenia and Montenegro (the Balkans), you profited from those conflicts, they got bails of liquid cash, and you got contacts in the markets over there", something along those lines..

Re: Italian Mafia running guns for ISIS in Europe [Re: sbhc] #879271
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The Camorra and the Albanian mob are connected for a long time now and muslim factions of the Albanian mob on the Balkans(Kosovo,Serbia,Macedonia) are connected with ISIS. Thats how the connection is established


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Here is a couple more;





“During the 1982 Anglo-Argentine war in the Falklands, Argentina experienced its darkest period of economic isolation. So the Camorra opened negotiations with the Argentine defense, becoming the funnel through which poured weapons no one would have sold them officially. The clans outfitted themselves for a long war, but the fighting that broke out in March was over by June. Few shots, few dead, few purchases. A war of more use to politicians than to businessmen, that did more for diplomacy than for the economy. It didn’t make sense for the Caserta clans to sell off their stock just to bring in immediate earnings. On the same day that the end of hostilities was declared, the British secret services intercepted a phone call between Argentina and San Cipriano d’Aversa. Just two sentences, but enough to understand the power and diplomatic potential of the Caserta families.
“Hello?”
“Hello.”
“The war’s over here, now what are we supposed to do?”
“Don’t worry, there’ll be another one.”

Excerpt From: Roberto Saviano & Virginia Jewiss. “Gomorrah.” Picador, 2007. iBooks.
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I thought this passage was pretty interesting.....




“International research institutes in economics are in constant need of data, which they serve like daily bread to newspapers, magazines, and political parties. For example, the celebrated “Big Mac” index estimates the prosperity of a country based on the cost of a McDonald’s hamburger. To calculate the state of human rights, the analysts consider the price of an AK-47. The less it costs, the more human rights violations there are, an indication that civil rights are gangrening and the social structure “is falling to pieces. In western Africa, an AK-47 can cost as little as $50. And in Yemen it is possible to find second-or thirdhand weapons for as low as six dollars. The best resource for arms traffickers are the Caserta and Naples clans, who, together with the Calabrian Mafia, with whom they are in constant contact, have their paws on the arms deposits of crumbling, Eastern European socialist countries.
The Camorra, in handling a large slice of the international arms market, could actually set the price of AK-47s, thus becoming the indirect arbiter of the state of human rights in the West”

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Re: Italian Mafia running guns for ISIS in Europe [Re: sbhc] #879274
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I remember first reading about the Nuvoletta clan buying TANKS, I'm like okay, no wonder Riina didn't want it with them, lol

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Gomorrah is a great book Cabrini, I'm reading it right now..

Have you read Zero Zero Zero yet, Saviano's new book? I haven't, I wonder if it's just as good..

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Yeah I read it, it's, not BAD but there is a lot of weird, I don't even know what to call it poetry? Like he spends waaaay too much time with that mess. But the actual info on guys like Salvatore Mancuso (the Calabrian leader of a Colombian guerrilla group) is top notch. You just gotta sift through his weird aspiration to be a crime poet, lol

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Gomorrah is all factual isn't it?

So Zero is is part fictional if I understand correctly??


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I think I actually read somewhere that Italy is like one of the only places there is no ISIS. Those clans DONT PLAY NO GAMES LOL..

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Yeah Gommorah is factual, ZZZ, I gotta read it again, but I remember it basically being about the traditional criminal industrialist, (Italian Mafia) being, basically schooling the South American cartels on business. Also it's about the global impact of cocaine, but like I said there is so much silliness in his writing, I kinda got frustrated with the book, it's a lot harder read than Gommorah, surprisingly. Maybe it's the 24 hour a day threat, cause the book actually now that I remember has a paranoid quality to the writing...

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Yeah, I can imagine that with the paranoid thing. I think I wont buy the book, because I'm not interested if it's all arty farty and part fictional. Thanks for the description Cabrini..

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Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Yeah Gommorah is factual, ZZZ, I gotta read it again, but I remember it basically being about the traditional criminal industrialist, (Italian Mafia) being, basically schooling the South American cartels on business. Also it's about the global impact of cocaine, but like I said there is so much silliness in his writing, I kinda got frustrated with the book, it's a lot harder read than Gommorah, surprisingly. Maybe it's the 24 hour a day threat, cause the book actually now that I remember has a paranoid quality to the writing...


When real life outdoor the fantasy when el Chapo was captared in his dentro was found an american Copy of ZZZ. Nobody know why el Chapo had the book maybe for be updated on what is written of him. Is thinked that his lawyer brought him the book.

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Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
Yeah Gommorah is factual, ZZZ, I gotta read it again, but I remember it basically being about the traditional criminal industrialist, (Italian Mafia) being, basically schooling the South American cartels on business. Also it's about the global impact of cocaine, but like I said there is so much silliness in his writing, I kinda got frustrated with the book, it's a lot harder read than Gommorah, surprisingly. Maybe it's the 24 hour a day threat, cause the book actually now that I remember has a paranoid quality to the writing...


When real life outdoor the fantasy when el Chapo was captared in his dentro was found an american Copy of ZZZ. Nobody know why el Chapo had the book maybe for be updated on what is written of him. Is thinked that his lawyer brought him the book.


Sean Penn gave him the book a few months earlier.


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Maybe sean penn suggested to el chapo to write the foreword or a comment to the Mexican edition of the book.

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Originally Posted By: sbhc
They're aiding our enemies. The Islamists are using the 'refugee' crisis (Vast majority are economic migrants) to flood Europe with hundreds of thousands of uneducated Muslims with many more on the way. Their culture is incompatible with modern western thinking, hence all the social unrest the migrants are causing. Sex crimes for instance have sky rocketed, I'm sure many of you have heard about the terrible stories coming from Germany and Sweden in particular.

This is something which has the potential to affect every European and his children. Treason cannot be tolerated.


This ain't storm front or daily mail.
You think UK / USA are complete innocents in all this. They support IS , and their ilk. They knew the only people who would fight in Libya or Syria would be Islamic nutters ,and they armed them.Gaddafi,Assad have to go because there independent and don't do what uk/ USA tell em. That's why we support and prop up the Saudis and oil kingdoms . The very countries that promote extreme Islam or wahabbism.

But carry on reading and believing mail online

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Yep, ISIS was funded by the US, UK, and France during the Bush and Blair years. That is something that is not talked about. Friends one year, enemies a few years later.

Those Interpol numbers are based on Germany reports, which the German Intelligence Agency has a track record, due to the fact they have been keeping tabs on people from the Middle East, and Northern Africa after Munich. Also Germany has been working closely with Greece and Turkey.


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