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Gun Law #862143
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Idiotic, dangerous, outdated, and stupid, naive, bravado

Idiotic - 3/4 population don't even know where Spain is, or travelled outside their country (but are somehow qualified to vote on bombing others)
Outdated - Indians are no longer a threat...they all got shot
Stupid - everybody basically can own a gun, thats why so many innocent kids are killed (and see idiotic)
Naive/Bravado- Arguably, its bred the bravado thats created the balls out, take over the world attitude the the USA has

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And yet the whole world would like to live here.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #862155
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Id direct you to Point 1 and 5...

Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #862156
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And bravado! You need to understand that the world doesn't view the usa that way at all anymore.....

Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #862159
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Gun free zones where guns are banned are idiotic and dangerous, I will concede that. Especially in a country where there's already millions and millions of guns.

Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863527
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Well, I suppose the thousands of casualties a year are not as important..

Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863528
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So do you think the entire Unitied States should put an absolute ban on all firearms?

Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863544
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Originally Posted By: fergie
Idiotic, dangerous, outdated, and stupid, naive, bravado

Idiotic - 3/4 population don't even know where Spain is, or travelled outside their country (but are somehow qualified to vote on bombing others)
Outdated - Indians are no longer a threat...they all got shot
Stupid - everybody basically can own a gun, thats why so many innocent kids are killed (and see idiotic)
Naive/Bravado- Arguably, its bred the bravado thats created the balls out, take over the world attitude the the USA has


Mmm Hmm. So take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens who could use them for self-defense. Meanwhile, the criminals (who couldn't care less about your pie in the sky view of the world) will remain armed and free to prey on them. Is that your plan? I hope you're the victim of a home invasion sometime. Have fun fending them off with a broom or frying pan.

There you have it folks. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863553
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If someone is stupid enough to try and break into my house. They would not be able to walk out.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863554
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Under Fergie all it says on all its posts.

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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863555
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"Outdated - Indians are no longer a threat...they all got shot"

Was rereading the original post and then thought this was a funny thing to say.
Maybe funny isn't the right word.. Just ironic, and twisted.

Especially considering some Native Americans actually were shot (murdered) right after they agreed to turn in their guns to the US government.

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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863563
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That's the freaking problem if they think it could not happen in the US it already has.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863610
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Somehow most countries don't have the daily, senseless shooting of people. Why? Because they don't have guns. Human nature and human perversion manifest itself with opportunity act out. Introduce a gun and it brings out the worst of society. And in a free society the scum rises to the top. Guns are a catalyst.

Did you ever hear of a drive by throwing? Example: a man suffered a laceration to his chest when he was a victim of another senseless drive by knife throwing.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: MaryCas] #863611
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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Somehow most countries don't have the daily, senseless shooting of people. Why? Because they don't have guns. Human nature and human perversion manifest itself with opportunity act out. Introduce a gun and it brings out the worst of society. And in a free society the scum rises to the top. Guns are a catalyst.

Did you ever hear of a drive by throwing? Example: a man suffered a laceration to his chest when he was a victim of another senseless drive by knife throwing.


Not true.

Many other variables are responsible for violence and killings.

Cities and states throughout the USA that have the least gun control laws and more gun owners have some of the lowest crime rates. If what you're saying was true, than towns where the most people legally own and carry would be among the most violent. It simply isn't the case.

Also, many other countries are far more violent than the US. Mexico, Russia, Brazil, to name a few.

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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Somehow most countries don't have the daily, senseless shooting of people. Why? Because they don't have guns. Human nature and human perversion manifest itself with opportunity act out. Introduce a gun and it brings out the worst of society. And in a free society the scum rises to the top. Guns are a catalyst.

Did you ever hear of a drive by throwing? Example: a man suffered a laceration to his chest when he was a victim of another senseless drive by knife throwing.

i'd like to offer a sincere thanks to people like yourself...thanks for continuing to stir the pot with your fantasy far left utopia, we wouldn't ever have seen such a spike in the # of guns being sold as well as the ever increasing # of people getting their concealed carry permits! the more you push, the more you lose! self reliance is coming back in a big way!

to all the eurotrash who think it's cute to mock the right to self defense, you're going to be in for a rude awakening in the coming decades. have fun dealing with certain fanatical religious groups with your rape whistles and perp dye while your overlords laugh at you! wink


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863616
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I say take the guns away. Rather have a couple of jets to crash in buildings. Or a truck full of explodes.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: Five_Felonies] #863618
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Somehow most countries don't have the daily, senseless shooting of people. Why? Because they don't have guns. Human nature and human perversion manifest itself with opportunity act out. Introduce a gun and it brings out the worst of society. And in a free society the scum rises to the top. Guns are a catalyst.

Did you ever hear of a drive by throwing? Example: a man suffered a laceration to his chest when he was a victim of another senseless drive by knife throwing.

i'd like to offer a sincere thanks to people like yourself...thanks for continuing to stir the pot with your fantasy far left utopia, we wouldn't ever have seen such a spike in the # of guns being sold as well as the ever increasing # of people getting their concealed carry permits! the more you push, the more you lose! self reliance is coming back in a big way!

to all the eurotrash who think it's cute to mock the right to self defense, you're going to be in for a rude awakening in the coming decades. have fun dealing with certain fanatical religious groups with your rape whistles and perp dye while your overlords laugh at you! wink


Problem is the delusional libs in Europe are often a bellwether to what the ones in the US ultimately want.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: IvyLeague] #863673
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During the Dem debate last week, the candidates were falling over themselves mouthing politically correct gibberish about holding gun manufacturers liable for gun crimes. They don't cause the problem--it's the criminals who get guns illegally, and the psychos who should never have had access to firearms in the first place. Analogy: we hold automobile makers liable for manufacturing or design defects that harm or kill people. But we don't hold them liable for injuries or deaths caused by drunk, or incompetent, or unlicensed drivers, or morons who text while driving or who race others on public streets--and we shouldn't.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863703
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The idea that anyone would discuss holding gun manufacturers responsible for any crime committed by someone using a gun, just makes my head want to explode.

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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863724
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It is a way to put gun makers out of business.


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Re: Gun Law [Re: fergie] #863757
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The obvious answer is to have more rigorous tests and laws for those who want to own a firearm. The right to bear arms harks back to a time when people did have to defend themselves against reasonable threats..it's hardly the case now...

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You don't think that someone breaking into your home and potentially raping and/or murdering family members is a reasonable threat? Look at the newspapers from any large city on any given day to see just how often it happens. You would leave them defenseless.

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Harks back to a time? Like when? The late 80s/early 1990s?

I don't get it.

Better testing? Aslong as millions of guns are out in circulation there's no way to stop somebody from buying guns on the black market. How do you put an end to that?

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I'm sure Bernie was mentioning Sig Arms when he mentioned a gun maker in his home state. People could sue Sig Arms all they want, what good is it going to do? Criminals will continue to get weapons. It's not like companies like Sig are selling to criminals, shit they make a LOT MORE dumping off to dealers than they would get on the black market any ways with the exception of maybe New York but I doubt a company like that is that stupid. So I don't see where companies like that are liable in the U.S.

Just like a case in Milwaukee I think it was last week where two cops sued the dealer because they were caught on their own camera making a straw purchase to a black guy that shot two cops in the face (they lived). Hopefully they bankrupt and put the dealer in jail... They knew the kid was only 18.

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at the end of the day, some people just loathe self defense and seek out a government that will lay out their decisions for them much like a mother does with school cloths for a 6 y/o. they also want a government that, much like that same mother, will promise them that everything will be ok despite how unrealistic that approach is when grown adults are concerned.

the people who always argue for more/tougher restrictions are always the ones with the least amount of knowledge about both the restrictions already in place as well as guns themselves, thus why they are so easily manipulated by shady politicians and their talking heads in the media. all they do is parrot whatever narrative and key words are given to them, a problem much bigger than just the gun debate.

then we have things like this that just further reinforce the "where there's a will, there's a way" logic always lost on people who blame certain objects they dislike, not people. all i can say is that hopefully they are are able to arrest the knives responsible and put them in prison where they belong! wink

"Nine suspects are being pursued after they launched a coordinated knife attack and killed 50 workers at a northwestern Chinese coal mine"

http://www.mining.com/fifty-killed-in-a-knife-attack-at-a-chinese-colliery/


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A time when you were battling the indigenous people basically, that's when the constitution was written. It's ridiculous that anybody can own a gun, just crazy...to say that people would just buy them on the black market is a feeble excuse, just legalise drugs in that case? The thousands of innocent people being killed every year is reason enough to ban idiots owning guns

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China should register anyone who has a knife.


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To Fergie where do criminals get guns in NYC?


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Criminals would.no doubt source them on the black market...idiots can unfortunately buy them far easier!

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Actually the war on drugs has been an absolute disaster and ironically much of the so called "gun violence" is tied to the idiotic war on drugs. So yes, legalize all drugs and allow people to do what they want with their body and treat drug abuse for what it is: A medical issue. Think of all the lives ruined because of the war on drugs and now people like you want to do the same with guns.
The fact that people can still buy on the black market is actually an incredibly good point, but you choose to dismiss it with no real argument as to why.
All the millions upon MILLIONS of responsible gun owners in the country deserve an answer from people like you as to WHY they should be punished and have their guns taken away or restricted while criminals would still be able to buy guns and be armed.

Let's hear a good answer.

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