Excellent review Pizzaboy. You nailed it all around.


I liked the movie.

I know that there is directorial licensing and all, but one thing bothered me: The fact that they didn't tell the audience that part of the deal that Fitzimmons made with President Nixon for Hoffa's pardon was that Hoffa could never run for any office with the Teamsters as a condition of the pardon,,,,,something that Hoffa found out after his release. In my opinion that was a fact that should have been included in the script as I think that it would have lent more credence as to how pissed off Hoffa really was, and how Fitz manipulated it in order to secure his position as President and screw Hoffa.

PB; just wondering.... do you think those guys actually said “ ITS WHAT IT IS” or do you think it might have been “ IT IS WHAT IT IS” ?

I’ve heard and used it is what it is” but never the other.

I looked up the usage of both terms and found “ It is what it is” is a trademarked and has a copyright.

I wonder if they were refused the licensing or did not want to get the agreement to use for whatever reason and used an adjusted version of the term.

The Irishman was watched by more than 26 million accounts globally within its first seven days on Netflix, according to the company.

Goodfellas fans may have noticed that the entrance to the Copacabana, where Sheeran and Bufalino have their run-in with Crazy Joe Gallo, is the same entrance that Scorsese used in Goodfellas, when Henry and Karen have their night out.

Yes TB, I thought that entrance way looked familiar.

Also, why did they represent Salerno as the boss in the early 70s? He ran a large numbers racket, but he didn't assume his front Don role in the Genovese family until the 80s.

I don’t think they said he was the boss at the time but I could be incorrect. Just a very important member of the Genovese family.

Some actors are meant to play certain roles; Assante is one of them: gangster. To me his portrayal of Gotti is like Brando's portrayal of Vito. Noone should ever play Gotti again except Assante. His rapid fire speech pattern is something I always look forward to hearing.

Yeah, he was definitely the best of the people I've seen that played Gotti. Speaking of Nicholson being Nicholson, Travolta was just doing Travolta wearing a Gotti-esque wig... there was nothing to that performance, his voice or anything whatsoever. Sizemore was just weird looking as Gotti, ha. Probably didn't help the dialogue was PG13 with everyone calling everyone sleezebags and scumballs and whatnot either.

I really loved the Joe Gallo character in the movie, was that a pretty accurate portrayal of how he carried himself?

I agree. To me it's not even gangster lingo. Just the way blue collar guys speak in general. I've always heard, and said, "It is what it is."

I don't think so. And if there are I don't think they'll be good. There really haven't been that many good mob movies, and only a few people in the industry know how to make them. Another problem is that millennial actors can't play mobsters very well at all. They're too removed and detached from the generation and era. They don't have grandparents from that generation like Gen X'ers do, or parents from that generation like boomers do. They don't have a real life basis to go on. All they can do is read about it, watch documentaries, news footage, but it's just not the same.

I think this movie was the curtain call.

The FBI agent at the end says it all.

"They're all dead, Frank."

Loved it, TB. I picked that right up.

I knew you would, PB. "And a-wa-a-a-a-y we go!"

It's a shame that probably most young people don't recognize that music and thus can't understand it's role in the movie. As Frank narrates during the film, most young people today don't even know the name Jimmy Hoffa let alone his role in American (and Mob) history. For many of we Board members, as soon as we heard In the Still of the Night in the opening scene, we understood time, place, and subject. So, so cool.

So I'm getting my son to hack his Momma's Netflix so I can watch this, is it worth it?? And yes I'm THAT deceitful

It's worth it. I'm looking forward to seeing it again. Just gotta find the time.

Has anyone figured out the sunglasses scene?

Lmao I would eat Artie buccos wife’s ass she is so fine.

I would let her use my tongue as her toilet paper.

I actually loved Maniscalco. I can’t really speak about his accent and mannerism, but I enjoyed his short appearance and I reckon he nailed the in-your-face attitude of Gallo. He looks like him too...

I've watched The Irishman several times and, like the Trilogy, each time I watch it I notice something new or something that peaks my curiosity.

Why do we never see what I suppose was to be the Frank's interviewer?

During the first several seconds of Frank's narrative, his mouth is shut.

Why did Bufalino ask Frank for his sunglasses?

Him not wearing the dark glasses to meet Hoffa would make Hoffa more comfortable I can't think of another reason.

DeNiro was interviewed by Seth Myers last night and said he first read the book in 2007. It took quite a while for the film to come to fruition.

I think Scorsese glossed over this because he didnt want the final act to basically have the same plot as the Nicholson movie. I think he wanted it to be mostly about Sheeran and Buffalino. Hoffa doesnt enter the movie until about an hour in and theres about 45 min. of runtime after his death. Had Pacino not signed on there might have even been less Hoffa.

Crazy Mario! Great find. I had no idea.

I recognized lucky hat girl from Goodfellas the first time i saw it. I read some interview with her a few years back where she said she felt like she should act like a pothead in Goodfellas among all those coke dealing and snorting wiseguys. That attitude helped her play off of Liotta and it worked for the screen. Liotta, in character, was just getting more pissed. Lol.

The guy who played Whispers was the Pittsburgh connection in Goodfellas, and Beans in Sopranos.

Some people have commented on how old (feeble?) DeNiro looks when, as young Sheeran, he's stomping on the grocer early on in the film. He looks even more elderly when he's gingerly stepping over rocks to get rid of the Crazy Joe assassination guns. In fact, he reminded me of me, since he and I are about the same age.

BTW: this may seem like "destiny," but DeNiro has a concealed weapons permit. That is really hard to get in NYC.

I dont know why they didn't just use a stunt double for those scenes. I wonder if theyre using cgi as a trial balloon to get rid of stuntpersons, make up people, etc altogether.

When he slowly shuffled up to that man's hand I thought he was going to stumble over it rather than step on it. That scene was ridiculous. Wasn't he supposed to be in his late 30's or early 40's?