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Why did fish rat? #850113
07/07/15 11:02 AM
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Title says it all and for those who don't know I'm talkin bout Cafaro


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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850117
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He had a personal falling out with Fat Tony that preceded it, including an argument between the two while in jail that ended with Fat Tony threatening to hit Cafaro with his cane.


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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850122
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Originally Posted By: Dazzlin_Vinny_D
Title says it all and for those who don't know I'm talkin bout Cafaro

Who knows what goes on in other people's heads? It's no easier to differentiate Fish's psyche from that of the run of the mill criminal who does home invasions or commits crimes against the elderly. How do you figure a guy like that out? You need to be a psychiatrist. Above my paygrade.


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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: pizzaboy] #850125
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Dazzlin_Vinny_D
Title says it all and for those who don't know I'm talkin bout Cafaro

Who knows what goes on in other people's heads? It's no easier to differentiate Fish's psyche from that of the run of the mill criminal who does home invasions or commits crimes against the elderly. How do you figure a guy like that out? You need to be a psychiatrist. Above my paygrade.


LOL


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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: IvyLeague] #850168
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
including an argument between the two while in jail that ended with Fat Tony threatening to hit Cafaro with his cane.

Lol

Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850185
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I think the fish rat cause he didn't feel like he had any support from the administration. He did have that argument with Salerno, but he also had an argument with Benny Eggs so I heard.


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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: IvyLeague] #850220
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
He had a personal falling out with Fat Tony that preceded it, including an argument between the two while in jail that ended with Fat Tony threatening to hit Cafaro with his cane.


Almost positive I read somewhere Salerno did hit him in the head with his cane, which was the final straw for Cafaro

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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850242
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I can't remember what he said ifront of the seneate commit. If he was a capo or not . but he sponcerd Barney and vinny dinap for membership whatever that means and I went back and read his labors decolration he says he's made approxmently 1974 I fucking up spelling think having a stroke. He said they tortured him in mdc then Tony fucked over on money. But is he the first member in NYC to flip after Joe cage. And did he flip before or after Tommy del and crow in philly. His Senate shit is must read he tells alot and about Bruno murder in philly.

Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850243
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And did he testiffy against gotti or did he get canned by then. He really didn't hurt anyone but I'm sure his info in 302s helped the.feds identify alot of low key guys and there rackets.

Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850244
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Being by fat Tony's side for all the 70tys into the 80tys he must have identifed tons of photos for the feds. All the coming and goings at the palma boys social club.

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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850249
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Most of them rat because they don't want to do the time after doing the crime. Those are the ones that rat after they are arrested and facing charges. I would include Fish in that category. They always come up with the excuse that they were abandoned or robbed or insulted.

Others rat because the family turned on them or they feel the family turned on them. That would be guys like Al D'Arco, Pete Chiodo, and Ken Eto. Chiodo was facing charges, but he didn't rat until after they shot him 14 times. D'Arco ratted because he thought they were going to kill him in the hotel room. Whether that was a setup or not, I think Casso would have eventually ordered his murder. Eto was facing charges but didn't rat until he took three bullets to the head.

Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850251
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Fish was gonna get 50 to 100 years in all his counts they had his mouth all over the palma tapes then anyone's. Extorting alot of people. He did avoid a life sentence without a murder. He was indicted in the second concrete case. With Neil migloir and a bunch of big guys but I'm pretty sure they flipped it.

Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850259
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@pmac I love reading your posts. Hope you didn't have a stroke or heart attack or whatever the fuck lol.

Do you have a link to cafaro subcommittee? Also; where can I read about Salerno Palma transcripts?


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Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: Dazzlin_Vinny_D] #850276
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Originally Posted By: Dazzlin_Vinny_D
Title says it all and for those who don't know I'm talkin bout Cafaro


You'll be lucky if you look as good as the guy in your profile picture in 30 years "Vinny". That is if a black guy hasn't shanked you in the joint first

Re: Why did fish rat? [Re: NickyWhip] #850323
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Originally Posted By: NickyWhip
@pmac I love reading your posts. Hope you didn't have a stroke or heart attack or whatever the fuck lol.

Do you have a link to cafaro subcommittee? Also; where can I read about Salerno Palma transcripts?

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/125163NCJRS.pdf


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