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Re: Joey's in town [Re: Blackjack2121] #848328
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
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Blackjack,

Like I stated earlier, it is my belief that Joey doesn't have $250k lying around in savings. I never said I was right. In regards to who the boss was the entire time he was away, nobody knows for certain. Nobody could accurately discuss how much money Philly takes in a week and like I said, Ligambi had 2 RICO trials to pay for and he's a criminal, so who knows if he was dipping into his own money or under-reporting what the true figures were. Again, my common sense tells me when you are buying or leasing a Benz, Porsche, Ferrari and Bugatti immediately after being released from prison and attracting that kind of attention on a restaurant salary and reports of people supporting him, then I find it hard to believe that it's his money. Through the FBI/IRS and Justice Department reports in the past about Merlino, it doesn't seem to me that he stashes away a nickel. If he owned apartment buildings or other real estate holdings that he washed his dirty money with, then I stand corrected. I'm not saying your wrong, I just gave my opinion based off what I have read and what I have heard from some people I know who are close to South Philly. How much do you think Ligambi's two RICO trials were?


Well we obviously don't agree on Merlino's finances. Regardless, the guy is living like a millionaire and really enjoying his freedom. There is no denying that.

But my main point of that post to you...I was pretty much pointing out an example of you being hypocritical in regards to his boss status vs his liquid cash situation.


I wasn't trying to be hypocritical, just practical. We may disagree on his current financial status and you're entitled your opinion and I respect it.


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Is Angelo Bruno's family still in the Philly area? Did he have any kids?

I wonder what kind of money he left behind.


He was in power for a long time and during LCN's heyday, I knew a guy from Pittsburgh who spent a lot of time with Bruno, told me once he still had his first communion money...Tony Salerno was reported to have an estimates $50 million. Gambino as well was reported to have a staggering amount...Bruno and Carlo were tight, cut from the same cloth...old school. What do you think Chin left behind for his kids PB?


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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
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Is Angelo Bruno's family still in the Philly area? Did he have any kids?

I wonder what kind of money he left behind.


He was in power for a long time and during LCN's heyday, I knew a guy from Pittsburgh who spent a lot of time with Bruno, told me once he still had his first communion money...Tony Salerno was reported to have an estimates $50 million. Gambino as well was reported to have a staggering amount...Bruno and Carlo were tight, cut from the same cloth...old school. What do you think Chin left behind for his kids PB?


Yeah Bruno was very wealthy..didnt he have the bar tender and service industry unions under his thumb?

And really Bruno was the last Philly boss to get full respect and representation on the commission....

I mean Scarfo kind of did but to a much lesser extent.

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If you make a black/red bet in roulette, you are betting even money and have a 18/38 chance of winning. That's a 2.63% house advantage.

With all due respect I was taught that with 18 winning numbers @ even money and 20 loosing numbers or 10 losers for only 9 winners that the house enjoyed a 10% edge. Please keep in mind that this came directly from 3 different casino operators.

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Re: Joey's in town [Re: Blackjack2121] #848479
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
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Is Angelo Bruno's family still in the Philly area? Did he have any kids?

I wonder what kind of money he left behind.


He was in power for a long time and during LCN's heyday, I knew a guy from Pittsburgh who spent a lot of time with Bruno, told me once he still had his first communion money...Tony Salerno was reported to have an estimates $50 million. Gambino as well was reported to have a staggering amount...Bruno and Carlo were tight, cut from the same cloth...old school. What do you think Chin left behind for his kids PB?


Yeah Bruno was very wealthy..didnt he have the bar tender and service industry unions under his thumb?

And really Bruno was the last Philly boss to get full respect and representation on the commission....

I mean Scarfo kind of did but to a much lesser extent.


Pizzaboy, do you happen to know if Chin was very well off? Anything close to Salerno?


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Re: Joey's in town [Re: Oscarthedago] #848481
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Chin left plenty of money behind. Plus a lot of land in North Jersey and down in Florida.

And there were other Salerno era captains that had that kind of money. Cockeyed Nick Rattenni was one of the largest private landowners in Westchester County, all above board and in his name. That's not to mention the garbage businesses. When he died he left well over 50 million in cash and property to his family.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Chin left plenty of money behind. Plus a lot of land in North Jersey and down in Florida.

And there were other Salerno era captains that had that kind of money. Cockeyed Nick Rattenni was one of the largest private landowners in Westchester County, all above board and in his name. That's not to mention the garbage businesses. When he died he left well over 50 million in cash and property to his family.


Do you think Gambino had staggering wealth?


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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
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Chin left plenty of money behind. Plus a lot of land in North Jersey and down in Florida.

And there were other Salerno era captains that had that kind of money. Cockeyed Nick Rattenni was one of the largest private landowners in Westchester County, all above board and in his name. That's not to mention the garbage businesses. When he died he left well over 50 million in cash and property to his family.



Do you think Gambino had staggering wealth?

Well, Tommy has staggering wealth, so just follow the money trail. Of course he did.


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Bruno has more body's then ten ,maybe upward of twenty ....And yes Phil's L father owed Bruno gambling debts, turned over his business to him. Intern to the son ...


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Chin left plenty of money behind. Plus a lot of land in North Jersey and down in Florida.

And there were other Salerno era captains that had that kind of money. Cockeyed Nick Rattenni was one of the largest private landowners in Westchester County, all above board and in his name. That's not to mention the garbage businesses. When he died he left well over 50 million in cash and property to his family.



Do you think Gambino had staggering wealth?

Well, Tommy has staggering wealth, so just follow the money trail. Of course he did.


I figured that but Tommy accumulated a boatload of wealth after his father passed away from my understanding. Did Tommy happen to marry a cousin as well?


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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
Did Tommy happen to marry a cousin as well?

I'm not going down that road. There are too many Sicilians on this site lol.


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Skinny is going to get tired of hanging around that restaurant in the off season.
He has never had a real job for longer then a month or so. This is going to be no different . He will be running back to Philly as much as possible ,and will be pushing his luck.

I see him getting a call from Eddie and him high tailing it back to Florida as a hard working restaurant owner ..lol


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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Skinny is going to get tired of hanging around that restaurant in the off season.
He has never had a real job for longer then a month or so. This is going to be no different . He will be running back to Philly as much as possible ,and will be pushing his luck.

I see him getting a call from Eddie and him high tailing it back to Florida as a hard working restaurant owner ..lol


Ya know, I hate to agree with you on this one Serp, because it is the worst thing he can do for himself...he should visit as least as possible as long as things are running smooth enough and trust the guys he has in place

But Joey being Joey, he loves the action

But hopefully I am wrong, because if what you say rings true...that will be his downfall...matter of time

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I can't stand Boca in the summer myself, and I love it down there. Summer trips are few and far between for us. And I'm only four or five years older than Joey, and truth be told we have similar tastes (eating out a lot, etc.). He'll be bored to death from the Fourth of July until AT LEAST Columbus Day.


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Pizza,

When we were transferred to a crew in Ft. Pierce that was the first time we ever had a/c in our bucket trucks, most companies think we'll be sitting in the truck all day if we have a/c and actually pay companies like Altec or International to take it out.

We never even used it. Working in the heat all damn day in a long sleeve FR shirt with rubber gloves and rubber sleeves gets you so hot you don't want the a/c because you feel like the shock will make you pass out. Some CEO's don't have the sense of an inbred pig. lol

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^^^^ @ Dix

It's not just that, Dix. The heat aside, the area is literally dead all Summer long. The only places that get busy in Florida during the Summer are Disney and Key West.

Disney because of the kids, and Key West because a) It's not nearly as hot as the mainland during the Summer, and b) It's freaking Key West grin.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I can't stand Boca in the summer myself, and I love it down there. Summer trips are few and far between for us. And I'm only four or five years older than Joey, and truth be told we have similar tastes (eating out a lot, etc.). He'll be bored to death from the Fourth of July until AT LEAST Columbus Day.


It is in our blood being from where we are ,and the feel of the seasons . He is no different but he has a hundred guys kissing ass and handing money up here .
That's hard to stay away from when you don't have the feds telling you you can't be around your boys.
You see where he is ,and how many flights he will be taking in and out of town.

That don't mean come Dec. Feb.April March he not back full time ,well till May that is . Hell we all love that sun in April !


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Agreed. To me, Disney is a waste and always is. Like you said Key West is beautiful any time of the year.

I wasn't trying to imply the heat, it was just your story reminded me of that. I need to get better with these reminisce stories lol

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
^^^^ @ Dix

It's not just that, Dix. The heat aside, the area is literally dead all Summer long. The only places that get busy in Florida during the Summer are Disney and Key West.

Disney because of the kids, and Key West because a) It's not nearly as hot as the mainland during the Summer, and b) It's freaking Key West grin.


And I still prefer Islamorada wink


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Did Tommy happen to marry a cousin as well?

I'm not going down that road. There are too many Sicilians on this site lol.


Must be something in the water for those Gambinos...they truly like to keep it in the family lol


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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
And I still prefer Islamorada wink

So do I. I also love Key Largo. But once in awhile there's nothing like Duval Street when you just want to let it all hang out for a few days.

When we do the Keys we usually drive all the way down to Key West, stay two or three days max, then work our way back up. At almost 56 years old, my body can't tolerate Key West for more than two or three days. Seriously. But when I was younger? Oh, boy.... lol


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And I still prefer Islamorada wink

So do I. I also love Key Largo. But once in awhile there's nothing like Duval Street when you just want to let it all hang out for a few days.

When we do the Keys we usually drive all the way down to Key West, stay two or three days max, then work our way back up. At almost 56 years old, my body can't tolerate Key West for more than two or three days. Seriously. But when I was younger? Oh, boy.... lol


A place called the Cheeca Lodge is my spot in Islamorada. And yes, a close friend of mine has a place in Key Largo. Key West is great...during fantasy fest wink

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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
Key West is great...during fantasy fest wink

Oh, Man. Ivy League is my buddy. But can you imagine him down there in October?

Sodom and Gomorrah!! lol lol


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Key West is great...during fantasy fest wink

Oh, Man. Ivy League is my buddy. But can you imagine him down there in October?

Sodom and Gomorrah!! lol lol


Couldn't even imagine! I went down there every year from the age of 23-29...I'm still recovering lol


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Did Skinny go back to his spot in Florida or is there sightings still in Philly ??

The guys around here and toward the city are still kicking to the same guys nothing has changed...

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According to Scott burnsteins recent article that someone posted a link to, there was supposed to be a big "family" meal at fat Angelo lutz restaurant in collingswood. Lol.

I can tell ya with fair certainty that the collingswood shop owners and civic association ain't gonna stand for too many of them meetings, IF it occurred. Anyone who knows collingswood knows it ain't private or secluded. Especially that restaurant.

Nice down here in ventnor this weekend serp.


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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
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Chin left plenty of money behind. Plus a lot of land in North Jersey and down in Florida.

And there were other Salerno era captains that had that kind of money. Cockeyed Nick Rattenni was one of the largest private landowners in Westchester County, all above board and in his name. That's not to mention the garbage businesses. When he died he left well over 50 million in cash and property to his family.



Do you think Gambino had staggering wealth?

Well, Tommy has staggering wealth, so just follow the money trail. Of course he did.


I figured that but Tommy accumulated a boatload of wealth after his father passed away from my understanding. Did Tommy happen to marry a cousin as well?


i read once that tommy gambino was worth approx $70 million legally. tommy married frances lucchese, daughter of tommy.

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i read once that tommy gambino was worth approx $70 million legally. tommy married frances lucchese, daughter of tommy.

His brother Joe is worth just as much, so it probably didn't have much to do with marrying Lucchese's daughter.


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i read once that tommy gambino was worth approx $70 million legally. tommy married frances lucchese, daughter of tommy.

His brother Joe is worth just as much, so it probably didn't have much to do with marrying Lucchese's daughter.


It's crazy when you think about it, Moussie the Philly UB got like 20 years for fucking poker machines few years back. Gambino brothers extorted the garment district for how long? And they only did a few years ad living free with there money.

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i read once that tommy gambino was worth approx $70 million legally. tommy married frances lucchese, daughter of tommy.

His brother Joe is worth just as much, so it probably didn't have much to do with marrying Lucchese's daughter.

probably didnt have much to do with the marriage, but it sure didnt hurt their pocket books either !

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