Interesting , makes sense about jack white . As I think it was Ray ferrito who said jack white promised to make him in Detroit after he whacked Greene .
Re: Scalish Crime Family (Cleveland)
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#847075 06/20/1510:14 AM06/20/1510:14 AM
Interesting , makes sense about jack white . As I think it was Ray ferrito who said jack white promised to make him in Detroit after he whacked Greene .
Ferrito was promised his own gambling operation in Cleveland...Ferrito left WITSEC and became one of the largest bookmakers in Erie, PA who layed his action off to the Sabatini Brothers and Manny Xenakis, all high level associates of Pittsburgh.
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
Interesting , makes sense about jack white . As I think it was Ray ferrito who said jack white promised to make him in Detroit after he whacked Greene .
Ferrito was promised his own gambling operation in Cleveland...Ferrito left WITSEC and became one of the largest bookmakers in Erie, PA who layed his action off to the Sabatini Brothers and Manny Xenakis, all high level associates of Pittsburgh.
I thought he was promised A piece of Youngstown and Warren and to be become a made member . I doubt jack white would of paid him top dollar but he may have made him had he whacked Greene and not got busted
Are the Sabatini Brothers still doing barbut in Ravenna? I asked around to friends of mine who still live there but nobody even heard of them.
Maybe Oscar can help you with this? Maybe not in Ravenna, but a near-by township? Maybe one of barbut dealers from the old All American Club is running the game?
Are the Sabatini Brothers still doing barbut in Ravenna? I asked around to friends of mine who still live there but nobody even heard of them.
Robert, John & Gerald Sabatini still operate...but I am not sure if they are still in the Ravenna area. Here are a few links to the Sabatini Brothers and their longtime partner, Manny Xenakis:
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2004&dat=19920409&id=HroiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Q7UFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1180,1726924&hl=en (1992- Copy and paste this link into your browser)
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
Are the Sabatini Brothers still doing barbut in Ravenna? I asked around to friends of mine who still live there but nobody even heard of them.
Maybe Oscar can help you with this? Maybe not in Ravenna, but a near-by township? Maybe one of barbut dealers from the old All American Club is running the game? Hard for me to say as I never learned as I was not allowed to play. Maybe the game in Campbell wasn't on the up and up http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/images/icons/classic/wink.gif
I know who you're talking about...wink wink
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
Great feast, great area, great history...especially when Tony Milano lived on the hill and owned the ITAM Club...NOBODY fucked around over there and they kept the rift raft and colored people out.
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
Re: Scalish Crime Family (Cleveland)
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#847948 06/26/1502:02 AM06/26/1502:02 AM
Hey Oscar- its Spadine cumbare.There is so much in & around what you're talking about .Feast starts Aug. 13 ( thurs.) Procession is Sat.15th .& ends Sun.16th w/ fireworks @ 9:00 pm Also it was the IAB Club . Thats where they tried to hit Nardi as he walked out( driveby) they missed & again as Nardis car spun & missed again w/ the 2 "snipers" on train bridge as the car was coming down mayfield rd heading to euclid ave.Cleveland guys were definitely not a good aim.They also fucked up on more occasions- hence the green bs Milano was boss- but used Scalish bcuz he was very polished, so well liked & was a smooth talker & man.He was a stand up guy & very business saavy.This is no disrespect for Milano or to say he was not capable, but believed by many that he was grooming to be boss.Milanowas always thing ahead (opposite of Licavoli who was like a shalad) that is why cleveland lcn is small in # & not more recognized & powerful.
Also,Licavolli as not polished himself. He actually was sloppy as was his work & dealings.Greedy also, which led to demise of cleve. LCN .He didn't bring any new guys in or make anyone- leaving behind a loossely group of guys after he & his associates pretty much all went away. Kinda sad- especially due to fact of what Milano & Scalish had established & left behind.As a matter of facthe also didn't want us younger guys in neighborhood fuckong around or beatin up the moolies- he did not want to stir up trouble & bring heat around ..
Hey Oscar- its Spadine cumbare.There is so much in & around what you're talking about .Feast starts Aug. 13 ( thurs.) Procession is Sat.15th .& ends Sun.16th w/ fireworks @ 9:00 pm Also it was the IAB Club . Thats where they tried to hit Nardi as he walked out( driveby) they missed & again as Nardis car spun & missed again w/ the 2 "snipers" on train bridge as the car was coming down mayfield rd heading to euclid ave.Cleveland guys were definitely not a good aim.They also fucked up on more occasions- hence the green bs Milano was boss- but used Scalish bcuz he was very polished, so well liked & was a smooth talker & man.He was a stand up guy & very business saavy.This is no disrespect for Milano or to say he was not capable, but believed by many that he was grooming to be boss.Milanowas always thing ahead (opposite of Licavoli who was like a shalad) that is why cleveland lcn is small in # & not more recognized & powerful.
In my opinion, I believe that Milano was the most powerful guy from Cleveland...Lonardo too, but he flipped. Tony DelSanter was another one who was very well respected and died much too young.
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As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
Also,Licavolli as not polished himself. He actually was sloppy as was his work & dealings.Greedy also, which led to demise of cleve. LCN .He didn't bring any new guys in or make anyone- leaving behind a loossely group of guys after he & his associates pretty much all went away. Kinda sad- especially due to fact of what Milano & Scalish had established & left behind.As a matter of facthe also didn't want us younger guys in neighborhood fuckong around or beatin up the moolies- he did not want to stir up trouble & bring heat around ..
Jack White was a thug...pure and simple. He had no charisma and should have stayed as a Capo running his businesses. Everybody from NE Ohio knows Maishe Rockman only wanted Licavoli as Boss because Maishe felt he control Jack White...as he knew he couldn't control Big Ange
As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
Hey Oscar- its Spadine cumbare.There is so much in & around what you're talking about .Feast starts Aug. 13 ( thurs.) Procession is Sat.15th .& ends Sun.16th w/ fireworks @ 9:00 pm Also it was the IAB Club . Thats where they tried to hit Nardi as he walked out( driveby) they missed & again as Nardis car spun & missed again w/ the 2 "snipers" on train bridge as the car was coming down mayfield rd heading to euclid ave.Cleveland guys were definitely not a good aim.They also fucked up on more occasions- hence the green bs Milano was boss- but used Scalish bcuz he was very polished, so well liked & was a smooth talker & man.He was a stand up guy & very business saavy.This is no disrespect for Milano or to say he was not capable, but believed by many that he was grooming to be boss.Milanowas always thing ahead (opposite of Licavoli who was like a shalad) that is why cleveland lcn is small in # & not more recognized & powerful.
In my opinion, I believe that Milano was the most powerful guy from Cleveland...Lonardo too, but he flipped. Tony DelSanter was another one who was very well respected and died much too young.
