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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846854
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That is very true Belmont

But I still think that was mostly talk , don't see them carrying out such a violent act

But I could be wrong , but Ralph pretty low key and the kids started to learn to stay behind the scenes a lot more post bust . Now they got 8 years for that and a few other calls to drive them crazy

But in terms on NJ Belmont , you have it of knowledge , a lot

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846861
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Db think it was a state case cause there was pictures of them all in orange jumpsuits pernas tacetta scarfo. You can't take pictures in federal court. So if it's 1/3 of 8 that's a cake walk and Madonna would be out in 2 but I swore Madonna was in fed court probably both I think.

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846870
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I agree pal. That said, the fact that the state can show intent is enough for a comspiracy. I highly doubt those guys are prone to violence like some of those NY guys but if the state really wanted to push those charges, they would have a 15 year bid with a stip.

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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: DB] #846885
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Originally Posted By: DB
That is very true Belmont

But I still think that was mostly talk , don't see them carrying out such a violent act

But that's why you don't talk. Ever. You ever hear e Westside boss threaten to sever someone's head off on tape, and throw his own name into the taped conversation just for shits and giggles? That's old and unrelated to New Jersey, but it's a fair analogy.

A threat is as still a threat. And if you're part of a criminal organization, it's the threat that instills the fear and not the violence itself that sets these D.A.s off. It's the fear that they throw into people that pisses off judges the most. Their motto is that no American should ever have to live in fear, and the judges mention it every fucking chance they get

Belmont hit it right on the head. If this was in New York, they'd draw fifteen with the wrong judge. On a plea!

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I agree pal. That said, the fact that the state can show intent is enough for a comspiracy. I highly doubt those guys are prone to violence like some of those NY guys but if the state really wanted to push those charges, they would have a 15 year bid with a stip.


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846904
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846905
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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: pizzaboy] #846910
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: DB
That is very true Belmont

But I still think that was mostly talk , don't see them carrying out such a violent act

But that's why you don't talk. Ever. You ever hear e Westside boss threaten to sever someone's head off on tape, and throw his own name into the taped conversation just for shits and giggles? That's old and unrelated to New Jersey, but it's a fair analogy.

A threat is as still a threat. And if you're part of a criminal organization, it's the threat that instills the fear and not the violence itself that sets these D.A.s off. It's the fear that they throw into people that pisses off judges the most. Their motto is that no American should ever have to live in fear, and the judges mention it every fucking chance they get

Belmont hit it right on the head. If this was in New York, they'd draw fifteen with the wrong judge. On a plea!

Originally Posted By: Belmont
Db
I agree pal. That said, the fact that the state can show intent is enough for a comspiracy. I highly doubt those guys are prone to violence like some of those NY guys but if the state really wanted to push those charges, they would have a 15 year bid with a stip.
yeah PB , Bobby manna did far worse

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: domwoods74] #846915
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yeah PB , Bobby manna did far worse

And he's coming out of prison feet first wink.


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846917
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Anyone know if these guys are getting a stip attached to that 10 year bid?

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846918
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Westside learned their lesson from Buster Ardito

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846936
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Totally agree PB , they were just young kids full of Adrenaline ( sorry damn auto text ) and bad boy phase
But trust me you won't hear them on phone or out in front again


Anyway agree w Both of you

I know it's not being discussed here much but this is actually a really big deal in those circles , a lot of rackets could be in play , many jars with these guys, most you only read about but not their name

Glad it's state , they should be home in 5-6 maybe and they got enough $ and guys outside to keep at least something going

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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846942
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Yaeh so I read the sentencing its state court Trenton so they do state time anyone familure with the 1 degree ract. Shit 1/3 2/3. Madonna got 5 so I'm guessing he does 18 months wonder how much he sgets for the NYC labor shit. How much time to wrap up a 5 year sentence 2.5 years. So everyone please out but dinapoli he must be real sick cause they wanted global plea and usualy there firm wonder what scarfo takes or is he going to trial that will be a story with all the tapes from the pernas cars.

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846944
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Pmac you're a great poster but jeezus your shits hard to read sometimes. Throw in a paragraph every few sentences. I'm begging ya.


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846947
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True

I just had to re write my post due to damn auto spell

Drives me insane as sometimes it's the exact opposite of my viewpoint

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: domwoods74] #846960
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
You ever hear e Westside boss threaten to sever someone's head off on tape, and throw his own name into the taped conversation just for shits and giggles? That's old and unrelated to New Jersey, but it's a fair analogy.


"You tell him...I...me...John Gotti...will sever his motherf-----g head off!"

Originally Posted By: domwoods74
yeah PB , Bobby manna did far worse


"Go piss in the street, lady, this is a f-----g business meeting!"


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: IvyLeague] #846968
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
"Go piss in the street, lady, this is a f-----g business meeting!"

And they say chivalry's dead lol.

I love the bimbos who go on and on about how these guys "really know how to treat a girl." Yeah, an eight ball every Saturday until you're used up and looking like something out of Jerry Springer by the time you're forty years old.

And for the record, I'm speaking more about the side pieces than the wives.


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: pmac] #846969
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Originally Posted By: pmac
So everyone please out but dinapoli he must be real sick cause they wanted global plea and usualy there firm wonder what scarfo takes or is he going to trial that will be a story with all the tapes from the pernas cars.

I've been telling people here for YEARS how sick Joey Dee is. I saw him about six months ago at his nephew's restaurant and the poor guy was the color of concrete before it dries. And it's no act, either.

That's a CLASS family (as far as the mob goes). They sheltered their kids, raised them in places like Scarsdale, and instilled a great work ethic into them. Some of their kids are fifty years old now and they're still putting twelve-hour days into their restaurants and catering halls.

Compare that to what guys like John Gotti and Greg DePalma did with their sons.


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846984
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is Michael taccetta on the street? and is martin ever going to get out? I know he got let out for a little bit and then caught this case plus got thrown back in for the golf club beating.

still think its nuts they beat that guy to death with fucking gold clubs. that is savage.. was the original goal to kill him from the beating? or were they just supposed to hurt him but they went overboard? I just don't understand if the real plan was to murder him why the fuck would you use golf clubs? talk about a waste of time and effort. must have took a while to beat him to death. would have been a lot easier to just put a few in his head with a gun

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846986
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Mike T. Will be home in oct.

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: dsbaloo] #846987
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At Deal Country Club, they renamed the triple bogie the Marty T.

Oh, and he's never coming home. Ever.


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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846988
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Just seen Mike T last month in West Virginia FP. He looks great and is ready
To come home. Oct. At latest

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #846989
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Marty is never coming home.he'll die in the can

Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #847015
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The golf club beating was supposed to be just that, a beating. It got out of hand and it went overboard. They were never supposed to kill him nor were their intentions to kill him. End of the day, it was fucked up and they never should of did that. A few punches and a gun in his mouth would of done the trick. It was a brutal way to die and law enforcement never forgot about the brutality and went on a mission to nail all of them hard. Thats why they are so hard on michael and marty.
Marty will be out of jail the same time the "son of sam" gets released.

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Re: Lucchese crime family gambling bust [Re: baldo] #847033
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its ok everyone hates marty t anyways... Another thing I always thought was crazy is why you never read about mike perna on here. Mike P was the gangster, ralph was a gentleman bookie. Not saying anything bad about Ralph but remember mike p was captain for years before ralph.

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That's a good point about Mike P. When you read any of the stuff from the Jersey crew back in the day, he was right in there in the thick of it with Marty and Mike.

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If im not mistaken, Perna, teccetta, and Ricciardi are all cousins.
Mike P was/ is well liked and was close to many guys from different crews.

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