Well, I thought we had hit the height of madness with Bruce Jenner and his alter-ego...now we have this...

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/06/12/us/washington-spokane-naacp-rachel-dolezal-identity/index.html

I heard this this morning on the radio..in Scotland...a black woman trapped in a white woman's body...I have a few opinions on this utter nonsense:

1. Good on her for the work she's done, whatever colour her skin happens to be, Im sure she's helped the cause she's involved in up until now

2. She's got serious issues..she must've spent a lot of personal time thinking how she could pull off looking more black, perhaps ultimately with good intention, but its still a crazy thing to do..why? Possibly its a kind of closed shop for white people to reach a high level, but that doesn't really answer her initial reasoning

3. If she didn't think she'd get caught out, she must be borderline mad...or she knew it and its the next reality show....

4. Maybe she's "brave" and we'll be treated to a hundred other white people that were born black and just want to be accepted that way now-good luck walking through South Central saying that to your "homies"

Moderately curious as to what this as to do with OC?

Apologies....my bad, should be general discussion...

As soon as this Bruce Jenner bullshit went down weeks ago I brought this exact situation up as the next thing to happen. And it does. Give me a fucking break.

fergie.. I saw the news this morning, as I subscribe to the spokesman review, I live in Idaho, and its the best news around,

rachael is a teacher at a university In Washington. she should have known better, it was a stupid thing to try as she is not black.

her ex-husband has a camera store in CDA and I go in there a lot, he regards her as a unrealilistic opportunist.

She looks like Kathleen Cleaver and EVERY half Black half German woman I've ever met.

Weird story as the story was usually of very fair skinned Black folks "passing" as white back in the days for whatever reason.

Only time I've ever heard it the other way was the film ,Soul Man.

Based on her old photo, it's clear that she had her hair styled to look more "biracial" and probably has a sprayed-on tan because her skin clearly was paler when she was young.

She's been sarcastically compared to John Howard Griffin, a white man who darkened his skin then pretended to be a black man in the South in the 1950s. His book was called "Black Like Me."

Also turns out that Cleaver may have committed some phony hate crimes.

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_385adfeb-76f3-5050-98b4-d4bf021c423f.html

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2015/06/12/black-like-me-the-rachel-dolezal-story/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Like_Me

F1,,Saw the film "Black Like Me" years ago....lot of the story and dialogue went over my head.set in specific time and location and i just didn't get some of the references.....especially some of the sexual references.

and yeah F1

this stuff came out because she alleged that her p.o. box was filled with hate mail and evidence showed that only those with keys had access to it.

Good book I read it a about 5 years ago, I definitely recommend it. I don't remember sexual references in the book itself so that may have been added for cinematic reasons, I also could have just forgotten about them if they were in the book

Final Jeopardy:

If a biracial, bisexual male, has a daughter with a biracial, bisexual woman on a train in Dayton, and a straight White couple has a son on a bus in Memphis, who arrives in Jacksonville first?

This was actually on my Math Regents in 1976. Catholic schools in the Bronx were very progressive for the times.

Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo........

My head just exploded...!

Since "Coach" asked the question....Cliff Clavin has to answer.




Who are 3 people who have never been in my kitchen?

For those who have never seen Cheers..

I can sympathize with this woman. I'm an Italian trapped in a Polish body. I desperately want to eat pizza, but my Polish body doesn't have the hand/eye coordination to enable me to get the pizza to my mouth.

Anyone remember this movie?

http://youtu.be/z2zMrjBLwn8

Sorry Gets, I see you mentioned it earlier! Always one step ahead eh!

Here's the trailer for "Black Like Me."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTJDWPIy2eo

Can watch the full movie here, for free:
http://www.imdb.com/video/hulu/vi1733209113

What a horrible world it was back then, hard to believe there's people still alive that think that way

Wasn't Michael Jackson a Black man who wanted to be white?

It like when a Black man is successful the first things he does is get a white women, and he gets a white servant.

Michael Jackson I am pretty sure had vitiligo and for celebrity vanity reasons who had his skin white. Also on of his ex said when cameras werent around his voice wasn't like that he actually sounded "normal"

You hear his voice on tapes just before he died, it was very deep

F1,

thanks....I remembered that "Brooks" from Shawshank Redemption was the lead....because I saw the two films in the same month.
About the sexual stuff....there were a running "joke?" in the film where different characters kept asking bugged out questions.


Foot,
What you described is "conspicuous assimilation"..the blonde wasp wife, like Kay in the Godfather.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_G1zaPCPw

The Moors of Sicily.

hey, thanks for the link faithful, I read the book years ago. been years since I saw the movie, anxious to see It again.

thank you.

I think the book was better than the movie. James Whitmore looked like a minstrel without the big lip makeup. The real John Howard Griffin shaved his head and did look like a black man.

There have been a couple other people that did this experiment. The first guy to do it was journalist Ray Sprigle in 1948. He went to Georgia. He didn't use the anti-vitiligo drugss like those who came after him did, he just tanned himself up real good and shaved his head. I haven't seen photos of Sprigle when he went undercover, but he must have been convincing to the white Southerners he encountered. Here's his story: http://old.post-gazette.com/sprigle/Sprigleintroduction.asp

Grace Halsell did it in the 1960s and wrote a book called "Soul Sister" about her experiences. In the 1990s some college student did it and he talked about his experiences on Oprah.

Yes, you can even be bi-racial, bi-ornithological. This is commonly known as bi-bi-blackbird.

that was in the 70s and 80s

now when black men get rich they marry a stripper that "dated" ten different rappers/athletes

true story

In the words of Chris Rock.

A guy like Shaquille O'Neal is rich. The white man who gives him his paycheck is wealthy