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Question to garment District #840791
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Was the Genovese Family active in the Garment District, and if, which Capo was responsible for overseeing the family's rackets and until when?

Thanks smile

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Gambino's son controled the trucking in the garment district. I used to work in the garment center.


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Re: Question to garment District [Re: mickey2] #840793
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Some of my jobs when I was a kid.

I used to work on pier 3 in Brooklyn. Flora Merchante Grand Colombia steam ship line. We were stealing from all the other piers except that one. They were smuggling drugs attached to the hulls of those ships. Just like in the French connection 2.

Then moved to Milton Snedicker export import company. Saw all their dock receipts took any thing good we could find.

Then a garment center company I was dealing with liked me and stole me away. They I was stealing from them anything I could.

Then I was put into a brokerage house. An Italian ran it and hired mostly all Italians. Got all kinds of stock tips. Kleiner bell Lew Alcinder aka Kareem jab bar lost his bonus signing money from the Milwaukee Bucks when he decided to invest there. I met him there I asked him if he knew my friend Johnny. They both went to power memorial hs. They had a fight there smile

Later when the shit hit the fan in that place the owner a really nice guy went missing. Somebody also planted a bomb in that place smile

Then Cape York shipping. Most shipped to Australia, and a few other places. There was this guy who was the President of Yoyager industries something like that.

Turned out he was a big heroin distributor in Austrailia. He came from good criminal stock. His wife was as tough as he was. I picked them up from their hotel. They were being bothered by a panhandler. I see it I go to interview by the time I got there they both were beating the shit out of the panhandler.

Where did I go next just did outside work for people here and there.


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Re: Question to garment District [Re: mickey2] #840843
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Originally Posted By: mickey2
Was the Genovese Family active in the Garment District, and if, which Capo was responsible for overseeing the family's rackets and until when?

Thanks smile


Yes, the Genovese family was active in the Garment Center. I've never read of a single West Side captain having the responsibility over that industry but Matty Ianniello had interests there. The Genovese also had 1/3 control of the Greater Blouse, Shirt, and Undergarment Association along with the Gambinos and Colombos also having 1/3 each.

The Garment Center is an example of where, while there may have been a dominant family in the industry, others were also involved. The same could be said about the Javits Center, JFK Airport, etc.


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Re: Question to garment District [Re: mickey2] #840853
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Good stuff footreads

Spot on with gambinos

Luchesse were #2 around there , mostly ran thru their east Harlem / Bronx faction

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Originally Posted By: DB
Luchesse were #2 around there , mostly ran thru their east Harlem / Bronx faction

Yeah, until those animals killed Tony DiLapi (by using the same bullshit rat label that they used on Salerno and Facciolo). Their influence was never the same in the garment district after that. Served them right.

And Tommy Gambino was really in the garment district, Foots? Geez, I'd never heard that before lol.

Guy's name was more well known than Gianni Versace's was down there lol.


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Re: Question to garment District [Re: pizzaboy] #840883
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Yep PB they whacked another big L guy there too

And gave everything to someone that wasn't in it

Talk about just being a horrible horrible boss and leader

Knowing Casso and Vic have generally lives miserable lives outside of 10 years is a comforting feeling , and Casso will now always be known as the rat . Charma really showed its hand there

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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Yes, the Genovese family was active in the Garment Center. I've never read of a single West Side captain having the responsibility over that industry but Matty Ianniello had interests there.


i see. was there any racket that guy wasn't in? this guy seems to me like a octopus, his tentacles in everything and anything

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Yeah, until those animals killed Tony DiLapi


you almost sound like you knew the guy pb, but o.c you don't have to answer that question wink

Re: Question to garment District [Re: DB] #840902
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Originally Posted By: DB
Yep PB they whacked another big L guy there too

And gave everything to someone that wasn't in it

Do you mean Michael Pappadio? Al D'arco said they whacked him and gave everything he had to a Jewish associate.

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Yeah he had that racket passed from his older brother when he was hit in 77

Monster earner and power in that district

Real under radar type so a stupid move by the idiots

Both came up under Ormento

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Originally Posted By: mickey2
Was the Genovese Family active in the Garment District, and if, which Capo was responsible for overseeing the family's rackets and until when?

Thanks smile


Just like Ivy mentioned, Matty Ianniello had big interests in the garment center. You can google Ianniello and Gerro Trucking Company if interested. Gerro Trucking was a company, set up by LE in an attempt to nail mobsters active in the GC. Another Genovese with a huge presence and stake in the GC was Joe "Stretch" Stracci. But that´s probably ancient history for most of you guys lol. Lucky Luciano had an interest there too, back in the 1930s.


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: mickey2
Was the Genovese Family active in the Garment District, and if, which Capo was responsible for overseeing the family's rackets and until when?

Thanks smile


Yes, the Genovese family was active in the Garment Center. I've never read of a single West Side captain having the responsibility over that industry but Matty Ianniello had interests there. The Genovese also had 1/3 control of the Greater Blouse, Shirt, and Undergarment Association along with the Gambinos and Colombos also having 1/3 each.

The Garment Center is an example of where, while there may have been a dominant family in the industry, others were also involved. The same could be said about the Javits Center, JFK Airport, etc.


Do you remember all that info off the top of your head or do you have to quote it from your document notes?

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Originally Posted By: DB
Yep PB they whacked another big L guy there too

And gave everything to someone that wasn't in it

Talk about just being a horrible horrible boss and leader

Knowing Casso and Vic have generally lives miserable lives outside of 10 years is a comforting feeling , and Casso will now always be known as the rat . Charma really showed its hand there


it was Michael Pappadio

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In the late 80's I was offered a contract to haul out of the garment district by a local Jewish owned factory. I was maybe 22,23 years old. I thought I was just a really lucky guy. To be that young and break in there with a kick-ass contract like that. Until I was given notice that this old Jewish guy was attempting to hire outside the highly recommended network of haulers in a bid to save a few sheckles. It was at that point that I was presented with the "commission" involved, and was henceforth outty 5000!

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foots. you gotta write a book. I would buy it.



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In his interview Casso claims the loot division was 50% Lucchese, 25% Gambino and 25% Genovese. Maybe it was true at the time he was underboss... no idea about it now.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

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I don't think there has ever been a time when the mob didn't control the garment center.

valachi in his book speaks of their control of it in the twenties.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Question to garment District [Re: yigido] #841001
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Originally Posted By: yigido
Originally Posted By: DB
Yep PB they whacked another big L guy there too

And gave everything to someone that wasn't in it

Do you mean Michael Pappadio? Al D'arco said they whacked him and gave everything he had to a Jewish associate.

The straw that broke the Luccheses' backs in the garment industry.

Luongo, Facciolo, DiLapi, Pappadio, Salerno, and on and on and on. These guys were killed for nothing, ESPECIALLY Mikey Salerno. He and Mikey Pappadio were old fucking men and posed no threat whatsoever.

People love to talk about the damage that Gotti did to the Gambinos. But Vic and Gas did just as much damage to the Luccheses. I hope they both live to be 110 years old yelling for the nurse to change their diapers in the infirmary.

It's very telling that the old Harlem/Bronx/Westchester faction of the Luccheses was able to pick up the pieces and rebuild. It's because they were always the brains in that family to begin with.


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Originally Posted By: Malandrino
In his interview Casso claims the loot division was 50% Lucchese, 25% Gambino and 25% Genovese. Maybe it was true at the time he was underboss... no idea about it now.

Casso also claims to be sane.


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Couldn't have said either post any better PB

And the biggest reason those Luchesse and Genovese guys have always been so successful IMO is they follow the secrecy thing to a tee , no one knows shit , then and now and they took their illegal money ( drugs and gambling ) and developed legit big business with it in construction trucking and garbage . That's their playbook and likely always will be

PB is right on point as usual when he somewhat frequently states about the closeness between those 2 families in EH and Bronx , they are basically brothers.

Luchesse , Vito G , Oremnto , Ducks, Pappadios and more were very very close business asssociates , going back to their 107th days

They have and will likely always be mirror images of each other and do business with each other with complete ease .

Unfortunately for them ( luchesse guys ) , they were real old school and followed the rules , the boss is the boss otherwise both Casso and Vic would be trunked and both of them absolutely knew it could happen at any time with little to no repercussions . They died like men with respects to that life .

Vic will always be discussed as who was the stupidest and most incompetent boss , him or Gotti, and Casso will go down as a fakester within this thing with no heart or inner strength , their reps forever destroyed .


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