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Private school in The Bronx... #839773
04/29/15 09:44 AM
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Private School With $45K Tuition Asks City for Help to Build Pool.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150408...help-build-pool

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. $45k a year and you can't afford to pay for a pool? And what kind of parents pay that much to begin with for Kindergarden through 8th grade?

PB, are you familiar with this school?

Re: Private school in The Bronx... [Re: NickyEyes1] #839779
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Of course, Nicky. That part of Riverdale is VERY wealthy. Riverdale is in the far northwest Bronx, sandwiched in between Northern Manhattan and South Yonkers. But the further north you go into Riverdale, and the closer you get to South Yonkers, the shittier it gets.

That particular border (the Bronx/Yonkers border in Riverdale, particularly along Riverdale Avenue and South Broadway), is among the worst neighborhoods in all of New York. It's estimated that there are more illegal Mexicans living there than anywhere northeast of Texas.

And you're right, fuck them and that grant. Give it to the city schools, who really need it, and where the teachers risk their lives going to work every day rolleyes.


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that school told the world that they're money hungry parasites

and everybody turned a blind eye

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
that school told the world that they're money hungry parasites

and everybody turned a blind eye


Nope. The money hungry parasites are the public school unions who are bankrupting states such as California, Illinois, and New Jersey with their ridiculous pension and healthcare demands.

These guys don't need the hand out.

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Didn't the great mayor of NYC DeBlasio close a private/public school down because it gave an unfair advantage to the inner city kids.
Italian Forever- I agree with you about the unions. My friends wife is a teacher in NY and said some grade school teachers are making as much as 90K a year because the job is so "Stressful" I wonder how they would handle the stress of being a cop.

Re: Private school in The Bronx... [Re: NickyEyes1] #839912
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We have a private school in Bay Ridge that runs from grammar school through HS.

It cost around 30 thousand per year or more to attend.

They give schorlorships to poor minority kids if they are good at sports.

If you look at their HS soccer teams they have some of the best Club players playing there. Yet they can't win a NYC championship. Because their coach could not win if he coached Barcalona smile


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What schools do all schools they ask alumni from the school to donate for things they feel like they need.

My son gets donatition requests. So does my daughter from her HS and from Columbia University.

I get requests from everyone I even get requests from my old grammer school St.Anns. I think they forget they expelled me a few weeks before graduation smile yes they threw me out just because I beat a fellow class mate in the middle of class who stole a text book of mine. At least I thought he stole my text book.


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Re: Private school in The Bronx... [Re: ItalianForever] #839961
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Originally Posted By: ItalianForever
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
that school told the world that they're money hungry parasites

and everybody turned a blind eye


Nope. The money hungry parasites are the public school unions who are bankrupting states such as California, Illinois, and New Jersey with their ridiculous pension and healthcare demands.

These guys don't need the hand out.



they dont need the handout and they're still begging for more

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California can't even get their own water. Why not pipe water in from a state that has a lot of water. Certainly, they can present a bill for the service. After all we are not communists or are we?


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Originally Posted By: Footreads
California can't even get their own water. Why not pipe water in from a state that has a lot of water. Certainly, they can present a bill for the service. After all we are not communists or are we?

The drought out there is the worst in centuries. It's honestly no joke.


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Re: Private school in The Bronx... [Re: NickyEyes1] #840224
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god almighty, that means all the Californians will be moving to Idaho.

somebody please pipe water to them before they move.



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A little off subject, but in response the above posts about California's water issues, haven't they perfected the ocean desalination process enough to use it ?? Seems that with all the high tech we have today, they could do something.

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@bigboy,

you're right. why does research and development industry exist if it's not going to put to practical use?

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As far as the topic, just noting a few things.

-Hedge fund managers, law partners, real estate magnates and other business elite of the region are either alum, parents of current students or both. Not only will this go through, but it's perfectly legal and there are probably several past incidents of similar things happening.

-Political trick of 'side versus side' gets exposed again. Mayor Diblasio and the "make the rich pay their fair share" rhetoric is politico speech as NOBODY gets elected mayor of NYC without the support of the business elite.

-The advice Don Vito gave to Santino was right. Omar said it to the attorney on "The Wire"..I got the shotgun, you go the briefcase.It's all in the game ,right?"

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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
As far as the topic, just noting a few things.

-Hedge fund managers, law partners, real estate magnates and other business elite of the region are either alum, parents of current students or both. Not only will this go through, but it's perfectly legal and there are probably several past incidents of similar things happening.

-Political trick of 'side versus side' gets exposed again. Mayor Diblasio and the "make the rich pay their fair share" rhetoric is politico speech as NOBODY gets elected mayor of NYC without the support of the business elite.


You mean 90% of New York City's tax base. They pay for those shitty ass public schools and get no benefit from them.


Yea. Shit on hedge funds and wall street in general. watch how fast they move to Florida. Smart way to turn your city into Baltimore and Detroit.

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Originally Posted By: ItalianForever
You mean 90% of New York City's tax base. They pay for those shitty ass public schools and get no benefit from them.


Yea. Shit on hedge funds and wall street in general. watch how fast they move to Florida. Smart way to turn your city into Baltimore and Detroit.


Lot of NY based businesses have relocated to Jersey City,NJ and other northern Jersey cities, they were priced out of the city. Jersey City was left for dead not too long ago but it's really become almost a new place. Funny thing was, Manhattan didn't become Baltimore or Detroit.

I'd sure like you to show me where I'm shitting on the business elite by pointing out the things I've pointed out.

Would also like to hear how the financial sector represents 90% of the tax base in NYC.

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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
@bigboy,

you're right. why does research and development industry exist if it's not going to put to practical use?


Like all new technology it is probably too expensive to put into practical use at this time or maybe any time. But the new start up companies that produced it was paid for by our government. Company owners made donations to political candidates. They in turn use their position in our government to get our government to finance. Then their relatives and friends are set up with in these companies.

Then they all take their cut to the government money and become even richer then they are then they funnel some of that government money under the table back to the political candidate that got them the money.

So it's good to be Obama oops I mean the King.


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@Foot,

interesting points.

I always thought that technology exists to make many current machines and tools obsolete but that the companies that make the existing tools and machines pay the government to stall the production of the new products.

I didn't know exactly the severity of the water issues in Cali...if the tech exists, and it surely does...they need to roll out the machines to process sea water.

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Even if they could they probably can't move it to we're they need it. Answer smile a water pipeline.


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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
Originally Posted By: ItalianForever
You mean 90% of New York City's tax base. They pay for those shitty ass public schools and get no benefit from them.


Yea. Shit on hedge funds and wall street in general. watch how fast they move to Florida. Smart way to turn your city into Baltimore and Detroit.


Lot of NY based businesses have relocated to Jersey City,NJ and other northern Jersey cities, they were priced out of the city. Jersey City was left for dead not too long ago but it's really become almost a new place. Funny thing was, Manhattan didn't become Baltimore or Detroit.

I'd sure like you to show me where I'm shitting on the business elite by pointing out the things I've pointed out.

Would also like to hear how the financial sector represents 90% of the tax base in NYC.


You do realize its a long process right? Do you think Detroit and Baltimore became like that over night? It was a consistent pattern of electing Democratic leaders that lead them down that path.

A few businesses leaving NYC does not make a Baltimore. All of wall street leaving is a damn good start.

As far as the tax base, as with almost every state with state income tax and city with city tax, those who make the most money make up the vast majority of a tax base. Its just math man, it's not difficult.

Also, when you acknowledge the good these companies have done for Jersey City, you are acknowledging the benefits of private industry and capitalism. I am not sure whether you did that accidentally. It's hard to get a gauge on you gets, you speak in such generalities and always try to be a bastion of neutrality.

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IF,

I think as individuals, our views are often too complex for us to able to be placed in a box. I think we all have views that technically fall into different political boxes. I think the boxes are traps and keep people from hearing ,examining, or conceding other sides of issues for fear of being labeled "one of them".

For example..the "pro business" box. Who isn't pro business? I'm pro business, but if the box says that being pro business means that I am against ANY regulation of business, and that I am against taxing businesses because they create jobs and anchor society, then I step out of that box. Citizens are regulated by laws and codes, the govt. even at the highest levels has checks and balances....what makes corporations exempt from rules and regulations? And I guess, if you're not in the pro business box..you're a socialist pinko commie?

I'm all for people,organizations, trade groups,lobbies speaking and acting in their OWN best interests. So big business is supposed to promote what they promote. I think Limbaugh,O'Reilly,etc have magically pulled the wool over the eyes of a lot of regular Americans to the extent that they(the American public) now promote views and ideologies that aren't necessarily in THEIR best interests.Big business via expertly crafted arguments and sound bytes in media is waving a carrot in front of us with a fishing line like what someone on horseback would do.And we are being manipulated.Interest groups by definition are concerned with themselves FIRST. If convincing us that what benefits them also benefits us ,helps them get support..they will try to do it regardless of there being any truth to the matter. Not mad at them, mad at us for going for it.


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Originally Posted By: getthesenets
IF,


For example..the "pro business" box. Who isn't pro business? I'm pro business, but if the box says that being pro business means that I am against ANY regulation of business, and that I am against taxing businesses because they create jobs and anchor society, then I step out of that box. Citizens are regulated by laws and codes, the govt. even at the highest levels has checks and balances....what makes corporations exempt from rules and regulations? And I guess, if you're not in the pro business box..you're a socialist pinko commie?




Gets,

I agree with most of what you said aside from the above statement. You're clearly a thoughtful individual, and I think you are able to take feedback.

What you just did there is overgeneralize, and in doing so, made the opposite argument look simplistic. That, as much as anything else, creates division, and division creates twos. Meaning, those broad boxes that you say people are too focused on, well, the type of generalization you just made, is what causes that type of thinking.

No, being pro business does not mean you are anti any regulations or taxes. Who said it is like that? Smart, common sense regulations and taxes are necessary to provide for the infrastructure of our communities. What we are for is common sense regulation and taxes.

When politicians start getting into the whole "greedy corporation"talk and the whole "the rich need to pay more" that's when you lose me. Especially when the most greedy entities are government unions who demand overcompensation and unreasonable benefits. Benefits, by the way, that nobody in the private sector receives. The damage being done by public sector unions far outweighs the damage being done by private industry. Just take a look at the pension crisis in California, New Jersey, Illinois. I could name more, but you get the idea.

My former and your current Governor, Chris Christie, is the only governor of New Jersey who was willing to address this problem. And in doing so, he saved the teacher's pensions. Instead of lying to the teachers and giving them whatever they wanted, he saved their pensions. But he gets vilified. Why? Because its easier to lie to people then to tell them the truth. Chris Christie, like many republicans, is for common sense government. Bankrupting the state of New Jersey by giving the teacher's triple a benefits is not common sense government.

Why should teacher's get the best benefits in the country when the private sector doesn't? They work about 6 hours a day and are off three months a year. On top of that, they get paid pretty well. Why do they deserve that for working less than your average private sector worker? Especially when they churn out kids like cook who on his best day can't put together a coherent sentence.

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IF, good response

christie/teacher's union showdown is playing out now in the news..so more on that as it develops

and the use of public bonds was approved for the private school pool in Riverdale.

I think that you are in fact implying that business elite should have different rule. In this discussion about public money being used to fund projects for a private institution, your views seems to be that it's ok, because the business elite pay taxes that go into public schools that their children do not attend.

Whether it's income,property, sales tax..many New Yorkers pay taxes that go into funding departments/projects that they may not directly benefit from but which benefit the society. Good number of people in the city pay taxes and don't drive or even own cars, they don't deserve special consideration/benefits because they help fund local road repairs.

I brought up that the business elite of the region are alum and that the measure was legal and would be approved.I think it stinks because clearly the bonds could be used in ways that benefit a greater number of people from that borough.With the profile of that school, I'd be interested in knowing what % of the parents even live in NY state. Residents of the borough, even residents of Riverdale will not have access to these facilities, think about that. It's bull.

Since I'm not married to any political ideology...I called out Diblasio's ad for mayor which literally had his daughter saying political rhetoric like "my dad is gonna make sure the rich pay their fair share of taxes". The same guy who forgot to tell Batts that Tommy don't shine shoes anymore. also forgot to tell you that the Mayor featured his children in campaign ads. It's hogwash, and stories like this just highlight that the modern day golden rule= the ones with the gold make the rules.



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