As an outsider to Philly I find that very interesting.

Which part, PB? The fact that Narducci has 10th & Oregon guys in his crew, or that he's been steadily building a heavy following in the city since his release from prison? As someone said earlier in the thread, many of the 10th & O guys have been Philly mob associates for some time.

Narducci hates Merlino with a PASSION, as do most of the old time Scarfo era gangsters. They view Joey and his guys as J.V. mobsters and street corner punks, and they definitely don't believe that he should be the boss. With all of the Scarfo soldiers lined up behind Narducci, and another heavy hitter like "Faffy" Iannarella due out soon, the Philly family is now more than ever divided down the middle into factions. Phil has made it no secret that he wants to be the boss. It's been reported by Scott Burnstein and several others that Stevie Mazzone (Joey's acting/street boss) is so well liked between both factions that he is basically bridging the gap between them and keeping the peace.

I've read that, and THAT'S the part that I find very interesting. Maybe he's beefing things up for a reason. But I'm way out of school here. You know me. I'll talk with authority when I'm in my comfort zone, and when I truly believe what I'm posting.

Philly's ninety miles from the Bronx. But I don't pretend to know shit about the place except that I miss the Mets games at the old Veteran's Stadium. I used to come down for Mets-Phils two or three times a year. Citizens Bank Park might be nicer, but it's not as gritty. I like gritty.

Gritty is good if if is actually gritty. The new Yankee stadium tried go keep that feel - huge mistake. That place can't hold a candle to Citifield, which is too bad. The old stadium in the Bronx blew Shea out of the water.

I did enjoy the most recent subway series, though. Mets got humbled. :-)

Wait, did you just say Faffy Iannarella is getting out soon? I was under the impression he was serving a state sentence of LIFE for the murder of Franklin the flower maker?

Faffy" is coming home" in 16 give or take.
The old guard may have a nice coming home gift for him or they may wait for him to get out.He is very well liked ,and will be set the minute he gets into town.

Phil Leonetti" is or was just in town again ,he did or is doing a local show with a guy Harry Hurley(don't know when it airs) and harry knows him a little being a local" and Harry's brother being LE" makes it a little easy for him to call Phil.He was on his show back in 2012.

There is one thing about Phil he knows or is ready for someone to take a shot at him cos he is not like the other rats ,he stays out on the lime light pretty good.

With the old guard getting members back and old business partners and associates coming back into the fold, cos not fearing Skinny as much as in the past things are getting very interesting in Philly.I just want Skinny to walk around Philly .

And "Phil" better watch his ass cos Philly will shoot still.....

From what I gather Narducci has nothing to do with the administration, None of the Scarfo guys are with Narducci, not even his brother, they're all under Joe Pungitore.

Herd that money" and I think you may be on the right tract.
Then again it could be a way of keeping them all guessing.

I have a feeling there will be a answer as soon as we see where Skinny lands,cos the season in Fla. is almost over and no reason for him to be there in dead season...
Even so you don't run a city from a 1000 miles away full time . That's a good way to end up dead, unless you are staying to remain alive....

Yes. Faffy's expected release date is 7/8/2016 according to the Federal BOP website. The Frankie Flowers conviction was overturned in 1997 for all of those convicted. Ligambi was also part of that case and released after it was overturned.

And Money, you may be correct that the few former Scarfo soldiers that are back in the fold may be with Joey Pung. The key here is that neither one of those factions (Narducci or Pungitore) have much respect for Joey Merlino or believe that he should be the boss. And I've heard that Narducci doesn't care much for Joey Pung these days either, supposedly because Pung was 'forced' to participate in Chickie Narducci's murder by Scarfo. On that factor alone, I couldn't see Frank Narducci being with Joey Pung -- the other guys, maybe.

At the end of the day though, I don't think the Pungitore's care much about the big chair or politics of the family or anything like that. They just want to make money and they already have several legitimate businesses. Narducci is the one who is power hungry and has made it widely known that he wants the top spot. If he wanted to make a move, I believe the Scarfo soldiers (even if they are with Joey Pung now) would line up behind him if he were to go against the Merlino faction.

The rule applies to everyone apart from Robert Mormando. He loves when unmade guys hit on him and put their hands on him.

That fastest way probaly get made today is probaly bash a guys head in with a bat if he put his hands on a made guy and make sure other made guys know you did it. Killing is a thing of the past. Make your name. I'm sure then some food head willing to crack skulls for Angelina.

George Conte was said to have roughed up Sal Avellino.

Sal Avellino, whose inquisitiveness on those tapes ended up putting Corallo under. Though nobody holds this against him.

Sal Avellino, who wanted to stay on the prison bus when Casso & Georgie Neck put together that plan to bust Casso & Lastorino out of police custody by ambushing said prison bus.

Don't be. Nothing will come of it. Narducci isn't that smart of a guy and is being appeased by Merlinos faction.

At one point they were floating making him acting boss, just so the heat was on him, but Merlino and his guys would ultimately be calling the shots.

Mazzone is the go between, and is calming Narducci, as Phil respects him as do many others. Joey isn't as dumb as some make him out to be.

Without Stevie, there might be a problem...of which Narducci would still come out on the losing end of.

Ask any of the people you trust on Philly and I suspect they will tell you the same

he didnt get caught because he was a cowboy though

they booked him for it and he lost at trial even though it was a friend of his that supposedly did it

he was nowhere near the height of the suspected shooter and had different hair color, but he would never rat on his friends

he was just there

Does the mob actually control street gangs and can order them to carry out hits etc? Just wondering whether the 10th and O gang were in the position with the Philly Mob years back

Read sal and his brother carmine a capo so that probaly puts the guy who put there hands on him in a real bad spot. These old guys don't forget. Tony ducks the boss didn't wholes him respocible for the tapes they all fucked up shouldn't have talked in a car. That shit about him not wanting to escape worked for him he didn't about 10 years and been free for awhile. Lil al tries to make him look like a pansy in his book for reasons he only knows.

I read Joey Punge is fully retired and in real estate and that Anthony is active.

Could be.

He was always one of the brighter guys in the Philly mob.

I hope this isn't to far off topic on this specific discussion, but here it goes...
Marty is definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, but you gotta give him some credit. he's don't multiple stints in jail and never flipped, that has to count for something.

obviously it all depends on the situation and who the guy is connected to. depends on where you are and the family too.

listen my man im a regular guy and Italian also.. if I were to feel threatened in any way by anybody I will defend my self..So should you... if it happens your a pathetic mobster and you get your jaw broken so what..!! what they gonna do im general public.. they don't know me or you.. if anyone were to threaten me afterward I go to police.. they aint got the guts to fight... they gonna shoot you from behind.. and guys like you and I should not be messed with.. by the way me and about 20,000 other Marines and Army brothers really run fire and maneuver...! No pathetic mobster got the guts to do that.. or Wake up an go to work every day..