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Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent #819284
12/17/14 05:32 AM
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How do u say it do u say your of Italian descent or Sicilian descent what's your particular way?

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: botz] #819312
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I guess Sicilians would say they are from Sicily..I know i would..


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Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: botz] #819314
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Originally Posted By: botz
How do u say it do u say your of Italian descent or Sicilian descent what's your particular way?

Just say that you're American, Botz. Because that's what you are.


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Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #819347
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: botz
How do u say it do u say your of Italian descent or Sicilian descent what's your particular way?

Just say that you're American, Botz. Because that's what you are.


Exactly,my mothers grandfather was from around Napoli,but my mother was always American.Especially here in Europe.

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: botz] #819352
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My 2nd Great Aunt was from what we could tell Corleone, but we always and she always said Sicilian. She was hardcore too, got arrested one time in Montgomery for selling beer out the backdoor of her bar on Sunday (illegal to sell beer in Alabama after 2am on Sunday until midnight Sunday night)

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: alexandarns] #819354
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Originally Posted By: alexandarns
Exactly,my mothers grandfather was from around Napoli,but my mother was always American.Especially here in Europe.

That's when Italian Americans get their bubbles burst in a hurry. When they visit Italy and start acting "Italian." Think Paulie Walnuts when they went to Italy and Paulie asked for macaroni and gravy. It's hysterical. Off topic, but I always thought that was intentional by David Chase. To poke fun of Italian Americans who overdo it.


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Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #819357
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: alexandarns
Exactly,my mothers grandfather was from around Napoli,but my mother was always American.Especially here in Europe.

That's when Italian Americans get their bubbles burst in a hurry. When they visit Italy and start acting "Italian." Think Paulie Walnuts when they went to Italy and Paulie asked for macaroni and gravy. It's hysterical. Off topic, but I always thought that was intentional by David Chase. To poke fun of Italian Americans who overdo it.


Hehehe,spot on PB.That in part is the way my mother and uncle acted when we went to Italy.Hilarious grin grin grin

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #819360
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
To poke fun of Italian Americans who overdo it.


I imagine a LOT of people do that. I'd so most Americans that visit Italy (Italian or not) even try to over do it. I've never been out of the country but if I did go there I damn sure wouldn't be putting on an act, my English is hick enough so I damn sure couldn't speak no other language lol If I tried I would say the wrong thing and get myself cut lol

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: botz] #819399
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My grandma is from Napoli and my grandpa is from Palermo.

I am an American of Dago descent. cool

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: Mark] #819405
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Originally Posted By: Mark
My grandma is from Napoli and my grandpa is from Palermo.

I am an American of Dago descent. cool

You're a Hillbilly.

You know I love ya, Mark tongue grin.


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Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #819413
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Mark
My grandma is from Napoli and my grandpa is from Palermo.

I am an American of Dago descent. cool

You're a Hillbilly.

You know I love ya, Mark tongue grin.

Only half, PB! Love you, too! smile

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: botz] #844832
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I cannot find the translation page I created so I'm just going to put this question here.

So someone is asking on my YouTube channel to translate the Italian lyrics into English for the song Catena. Is there anyone who can double check them for me before I put them up on the video. They are in the Neopolitan dialect. Thanks.

Also, What is a better word to use than chain?

Catena lyrics

Nun mme vuó' bene?
E dimme, comme mmo ppuó' dí?
Tu si' guagliona...
Ll'ammore nun 'o ppuó' capí!
Ch'aggia fá, pe' me è destino...
Pe' st'uocchie belle tanto aggia suffrí?

Pe' me tu si' catena...
Pe' ll'ate si' Maria...
Io perdo 'a vita mia,
Maria! Marí', pe' te!
Tu nun mme dice maje,
maje na parola!...
Dimme na vota sola:
"Te voglio bene"
e po' famme murí!

Tu cante e ride...
e mme turmiente 'a giuventù...
Io mme ne moro,
ma sempe 'a stessa rieste tu!
Mamma chiagne e, a tutte ll'ore,
mme dice: "Figlio, nun 'a penzá cchiù!"
Pe' me tu si' catena...
Dimme na vota sola:
"Te voglio bene"
e po' famme murí!


Catena lyrics English

Don't you love me?
Tell me, you can say it
You are, but a girl...
You cannot understand love
But for me it is our destiny
Oh, those beautiful eyes
How they make me suffer!

For me, you are the chain...
To others you are just Mary
But to me, you are my life
Mary! Mary,
You never say a word to me
Tell me once
I love you
And then I shall die happy

You sing and laugh...
You torment my youth
I wish I was dead
But it's always the same with you
My mother cries and tells me
Do not think of her

For me you are the chain
To others you are just Mary
But to me you are my life,
Mary! Mary
You never say a word to me
Tell me once:
I love you
And then I shall die happy!

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: botz] #844866
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Well, I certainly don't read Italian very well, but it looks okay to me. The last two stanzas are out of order I think. I'm not familiar enough with the vocabulary to suggest another word for chain.


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Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: olivant] #844999
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Thanks Olivant. Those Napolitanos or Napuletane (however you write that word) and their dialect make it so confusing. They have to use "muri" instead of mort' keeping it ultra dramatic lol. Just fyi I know the order is correct only cuz I recognize "Te voglio bene" as meaning I love you or to get technical "I only want good things for you". I just posted the lyrics and appreciate you taking a look at it. Ciao.

http://youtu.be/lSd4OFl4H0Q

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #845029
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Think Paulie Walnuts when they went to Italy and Paulie asked for macaroni and gravy. It's hysterical.

"Commendatore." lol That episode was truly hysterical.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Think Paulie Walnuts when they went to Italy and Paulie asked for macaroni and gravy. It's hysterical.

"Commendatore." lol That episode was truly hysterical.


Yes, it was. The Italian men he was trying to talk with seemed totally uninterested and when Paulie was with the prostitute and he was telling her that his family was from right around there, she could not have cared less.


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Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #845424
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: alexandarns
Exactly,my mothers grandfather was from around Napoli,but my mother was always American.Especially here in Europe.

That's when Italian Americans get their bubbles burst in a hurry. When they visit Italy and start acting "Italian." Think Paulie Walnuts when they went to Italy and Paulie asked for macaroni and gravy. It's hysterical. Off topic, but I always thought that was intentional by David Chase. To poke fun of Italian Americans who overdo it.


Definitely. Just like in Season 1, they are looking for the guys who robbed the teacher's car. And Paulie starts bitching in the coffee shop about how they appropriated Italian culture -- in his words "Expresso."

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My wife is 100% Sicilian but identifies herself as Italian

Re: Italian Descent or Sicilian Descent [Re: pizzaboy] #847072
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: alexandarns
Exactly,my mothers grandfather was from around Napoli,but my mother was always American.Especially here in Europe.

That's when Italian Americans get their bubbles burst in a hurry. When they visit Italy and start acting "Italian." Think Paulie Walnuts when they went to Italy and Paulie asked for macaroni and gravy. It's hysterical. Off topic, but I always thought that was intentional by David Chase. To poke fun of Italian Americans who overdo it.


I have Sicilian friends who have relatives in US and other countries. I was just recently talking to one of them about this very subject. She has relatives in US who decided to move back to Sicily and even have a wedding there. They were in for a cultural shock because the Sicily in their mind doesn't exist anymore. It's natural of course because the connection to the old country is from late 1800's or early 1900's. Just one example, they had planned that everyone in the wedding will dance tarantella, and of course only a couple of (older) people know how to do that anymore.


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