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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808437
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Really informative article Scorsese, thanks for sharing.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808440
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That article is informative but is embellished for those who haven't been there. If your in a county prison or doing a few years there's a good chance your not going to be housed with lifers. Guys doing 5 years and under are going to play by the rules rather then turn into Edward Norton and tattoo themselves up before going in the bing.

Mandatory Minimums are soon to become a thing of the past in some states because the guidelines are way to strict.


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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808443
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Angelo La Barbera and his brother were the protagonists in a bloody conflict between rival clans in Palermo in the early 1960s. Known as the First Mafia War.In a prison in Perugia in 1975 three mafiosi stabbed him to death on October 28, 1975

Domenico Tripodo ndrangheta boss On August 26, 1976, was stabbed to death in prison on the request of the De Stefano’s with the help of Camorra boss Raffaele Cutolo, the boss of the Nuova Camorra Organizzata (NCO) who worked with the De Stefano’s in drug trafficking.

On 23 November 1980, during the earthquake in Poggioreale prison, the guards opened the cells and Pasquale Barra killed 3 inmates opponents of the NCO.

On August 17, 1981 Barra organized an ambush to kill Milanese crime boss and Cosa Nostra associate, Francis Turatello aka "Faccia D'Angelo" (Angel Face) in the courtyard of Bad'e Carros, the high security prison in Nuoro, Sardinia. Barra was assisted in the murder by two well known Sicilian assassins, Vincenzo Andraus and Antonino Faro. Turatello was unable to escape the ambush. Barra and Andraus held Turatello, while Faro stabbed him sixty times. In the ensuing confusion from the attack, Andraus was also wounded and would later receive minor surgery in the prison infirmary. After Turatello was dead, Faro disemboweled and chewed Turatello's intestines, then spat it out as a sign of contempt

August 31, 1982 Bergamelli (one of the leaders of the clan of Marseilles) was killed in a bloody manner by Paul Dongo in the prison of Ascoli Piceno

Jacques René Berenguer, detto Jacki (one of the leaders of the clan of Marseilles) was killed in the Nizza prison in the 1990.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: Red_63] #808451
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Originally Posted By: Red_63
Mandatory Minimums are soon to become a thing of the past in some states because the guidelines are way to strict.


Red, I agree and also the fact that it just costs too much to house these guys who aren't violent and most of who are in for some personal use drug or drug related crime. Remember when all the states were building new prisons, now they can't empty them fast enough, unless of course your in Texas or a handful of other southern states. smile

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808459
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This doesn't exactly fit the question, but back in the 60'there was a guy named "Mickey" Privitera in Buffalo who murdered a Buffalo cop. He was sent to Attica and during the Attica riots of the early 70's the NY State Police and Army National Guard's 19th Special Forces stormed the prison. Later, Privitera was discovered dead in his cell. Perhaps a LE it ????

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I won't pretend that I am extensively versed on this topic, but it would seem to me that mafia in prison are subjected to much of the same crap as anyone else. Where they once probably had a lot of influence, now they do not have as much. The prison gangs rule prison as they invariably are not ever getting out and they have significant numbers incarcerated for life.


While I don't think mafiosi have the kind of pull in prison portrayed in Goodfellas, I don't think they are the easy targets some claim they are or just like any other inmate. Most of the examples of mobsters being attacked that I've read about on these forums are not easy to substantiate. And the ones that are are few and far between. Especially when you consider how many mobsters in how many prisons there are.



mobsters don't get attacked unless they pull a john gotti

mobsters for the most part are in federal prison, less violent than state prison

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: bigboy] #808471
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Originally Posted By: bigboy
This doesn't exactly fit the question, but back in the 60'there was a guy named "Mickey" Privitera in Buffalo who murdered a Buffalo cop. He was sent to Attica and during the Attica riots of the early 70's the NY State Police and Army National Guard's 19th Special Forces stormed the prison. Later, Privitera was discovered dead in his cell. Perhaps a LE it ????

Ya think? lol


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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808472
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By all accounts Joey Gallo assaulted a few guys assholes whilst he was in prison whistle

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: bigboy
This doesn't exactly fit the question, but back in the 60'there was a guy named "Mickey" Privitera in Buffalo who murdered a Buffalo cop. He was sent to Attica and during the Attica riots of the early 70's the NY State Police and Army National Guard's 19th Special Forces stormed the prison. Later, Privitera was discovered dead in his cell. Perhaps a LE it ????

Ya think? lol

Pretty obvious. LE is notorious for that


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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808475
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I read where jimmy Hoffa slapped tony provenzano in the face, in I believe lewisberg. bad move on jimmys part.



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I have been told by someone who would be in a decent (if not perfect) position to know that the Allie Calabrese thing was a paid LCN job.

Didn't Amuso get his ass kicked by another LCN guy? I forget who...Scarpa Jr. maybe?

Oh and least we forget Kasman hired the Latin Kings to beat down some associate who slapped him.

Also, while prison gangs have more power than LCN inside for sure don't forget they also get assaulted/killed all the time by their own people or rival gangs. Like that AB guy in Victorville not too long ago. The truth of the matter is it is a jungle in there.

Oh fun fact about bikers...they quell their inter-club rivalries behind bars to the best of their abilities.

I'm going to ask around more about this topic, see if I cannot find anything interesting out to report on this topic.

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: domwoods74] #808480
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
By all accounts Joey Gallo assaulted a few guys assholes whilst he was in prison whistle


That's "normal" prison behaviour!

Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808483
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in reading the book "joey by goddard' a bio of joey gallo. it mentions joey gallo as the one being assaulted.



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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808513
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=b_s-VLilNuzGsQSdioDYDQ&url=http://articles.philly.com/1987-08-06/news/26170453_1_mob-figure-salvatore-testa-state-correctional-institution&ved=0CDIQFjAI&usg=AFQjCNH7EhAVsOHHu8CRwVv_PXrRqd1T5w&sig2=WTMEdfT_6empyuCuCtpiAw


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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=ZBk_VNWYHrf9sATJlILACA&url=http://articles.philly.com/1987-08-06/news/26170453_1_mob-figure-salvatore-testa-state-correctional-institution&ved=0CDIQFjAI&usg=AFQjCNH7EhAVsOHHu8CRwVv_PXrRqd1T5w&sig2=FayjkkuNPCECu2vvmGpAqw


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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: americafyeah] #808515
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In 87 Leone ti got attacked by George tillery, a one time member of black mafia


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Re: Mobsters attacked in prison [Re: JerseyShine] #808612
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Originally Posted By: JerseyShine
I have been told by someone who would be in a decent (if not perfect) position to know that the Allie Calabrese thing was a paid LCN job.

Didn't Amuso get his ass kicked by another LCN guy? I forget who...Scarpa Jr. maybe?

Oh and least we forget Kasman hired the Latin Kings to beat down some associate who slapped him.

Also, while prison gangs have more power than LCN inside for sure don't forget they also get assaulted/killed all the time by their own people or rival gangs. Like that AB guy in Victorville not too long ago. The truth of the matter is it is a jungle in there.

Oh fun fact about bikers...they quell their inter-club rivalries behind bars to the best of their abilities.

I'm going to ask around more about this topic, see if I cannot find anything interesting out to report on this topic.


That's called a Jewish beat down.


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Did Amuso really get his ass kicked in prison? Persico and Stanfa too?

I thought these older mob types would be kind of placid in prison and not get into mischief. And I would have thought that it wouldn't even be possible to get in fights because of the maximum security prisons they are sent to.

There was a recent prison picture of Amuso with Scarfo and his jaw looked really strange. Now that I hear this asskicking story, I'm thinking he may have got it severely broken.


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Background on Miciotta.

http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-02-09/news/the-wiseguy-and-the-nun/

More on Casso/Miciotta feud.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/mob-turncoat-sentence-reduced-article-1.753725

Is it any wonder Casso was angry with Miciotta? Miciotta got Casso in trouble for smuggling contraband, probably the main reason he got kicked out of Witness Protection and all to suit his own ends. First he turns on his own crime family and then he turns on his witness protection family. He's a double rat.


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A lot of those mob guys stay the same even when they get older. Someone I know was with an old mob guy in the 80s at a bar in nyc. Andre the giant was at the same bar. The old mob guy was trying to pick a fight with andre and kept talking shit insisting that he prove he's real. The giant just walked out cuz he knew he would just snap that old man in half. But hearing stuff like that makes me think that no matter how old they are in prison, they'll still find a way to get in trouble


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http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/hit-squad-guns-jailed-mob-capo-article-1.708124

Greg Scarpa Junior was marked for death by all 5 NY crime families after hospitalising Vic Amuso, a member of The Commission.

Tough guy picking on a 5 ft. 5 60 year old.



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Originally Posted By: blacksheep
A lot of those mob guys stay the same even when they get older. Someone I know was with an old mob guy in the 80s at a bar in nyc. Andre the giant was at the same bar. The old mob guy was trying to pick a fight with andre and kept talking shit insisting that he prove he's real. The giant just walked out cuz he knew he would just snap that old man in half. But hearing stuff like that makes me think that no matter how old they are in prison, they'll still find a way to get in trouble

Spot-on. Antisocial disorder doesn't go away with age wink.

And don't get me wrong, not all wiseguys are like that. But the ones who are like that, are likely to stay that way.


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vic was abusing greg about his father being a rat..he came back to vic;s cell and told a guy vic was talking to , excuse us..after the guy walked out greg beat him bad

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Did Amuso really get his ass kicked in prison? Persico and Stanfa too?

I thought these older mob types would be kind of placid in prison and not get into mischief. And I would have thought that it wouldn't even be possible to get in fights because of the maximum security prisons they are sent to.

There was a recent prison picture of Amuso with Scarfo and his jaw looked really strange. Now that I hear this asskicking story, I'm thinking he may have got it severely broken.


It sort of makes sense that a lot of these mafioso could be vulnerable to the more crazy, psychotic-types of prisoners. After all, most of the mobsters locked up in the federal pens tend to be older guys, and they generally do not have many associates or crime buddies around them. And most mobsters (both young and old) don't seem to keep themselves in fighting shape. For all intents and purposes, they are alone inside. Sure, many of them have a lot of street credibility and notoriety in the underworld, but unfortunately for them, many of today's hardcore criminals don't respect that. Many of the new breed are impulsive, predatorily, and violent -- and the only thing a lot of them respect is violence.

I think LCN members had a much easier life in the federal pens in the 1950s - 1970s -- but not so much today. The prison demographics have changed too much.

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Originally Posted By: JerseyShine
I have been told by someone who would be in a decent (if not perfect) position to know that the Allie Calabrese thing was a paid LCN job.

Didn't Amuso get his ass kicked by another LCN guy? I forget who...Scarpa Jr. maybe?

Oh and least we forget Kasman hired the Latin Kings to beat down some associate who slapped him.

Also, while prison gangs have more power than LCN inside for sure don't forget they also get assaulted/killed all the time by their own people or rival gangs. Like that AB guy in Victorville not too long ago. The truth of the matter is it is a jungle in there.

Oh fun fact about bikers...they quell their inter-club rivalries behind bars to the best of their abilities.

I'm going to ask around more about this topic, see if I cannot find anything interesting out to report on this topic.


That's called a Jewish beat down.



a racist cop...........WHAT A FUCKING SHOCKER

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http://www.gorillaconvict.com/2011/10/the-sixth-family-by-robert-rosso-2/

"Alone at the table, I stuck a scallop in my mouth and looked around the dining room. To my immediate left, the former boss of a Philadelphia crime family placed his tray on the table and took a seat. His name is John Stanfa, he is my friend, and when he smiles and waves at me I return the kind gesture. As I look away, I see two black guys near the soda machine engaged in a serious conversation. They look very suspicious.

I’m probably just racial profiling, I thought. To me, all black people look suspicious. I picked up my cup and took another drink.

A man wearing a dark green overcoat and a beanie pulled down to his eyes enters the kitchen. Nick “The Chemist” is his name, and I can tell by the way he was walking that he was a man on a mission….and I wasn’t wrong.

Halfway through the kitchen, Nick pulled something out of his pocket. Anticipating violence, I guzzled the rest of my wine and got ready. If he hit someone black or Hispanic, I could find myself right in the middle of a racial melee. But I would soon find out, a racial matter this was not.

Nick “The Chemist” walked straight up to John Stanfa and bashed him in the face with a soda can, causing the older Sicilian man to go crashing to the floor. Nick then kicked John in the side and yelled, “I ain’t no rat, motherfucker! You’re the rat!” The entire episode lasted no more than 20 seconds, but before the cops could run in and intervene, John Stanfa pulled one of the most classic moves that I had ever seen an assault victim do. After standing up on his own two feet, he turned to Nick “The Chemist,” smiled, and said, “shame, shame,” as he shook his index finger at him. Given the position that John once held, it was as if he were giving Nick the kiss of death.

And in the corner of the kitchen watching his plan unfold, was Nick Geo. By all appearances it looked as though everything had worked out accordingly…"


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Interesting story. I'm surprised Stanfa didn't have Nick Geo killed instead of beaten up.


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From all accounts, its almost sad what happened to Capone. The biggest gangster in Chicago, but once he went to Alcatraz, it seems as if majority of the inmates bullied him and beat him to the point where his syphillis advanced rapidly and turned him into a scared, banjo playing, shell of what he formerly was. From the accounts it makes it seem as if Capone was brutalized in Alcatraz, can't begin to imagine what else happened to him in there that we may not know about.

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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
From all accounts, its almost sad what happened to Capone. The biggest gangster in Chicago, but once he went to Alcatraz, it seems as if majority of the inmates bullied him and beat him to the point where his syphillis advanced rapidly and turned him into a scared, banjo playing, shell of what he formerly was. From the accounts it makes it seem as if Capone was brutalized in Alcatraz, can't begin to imagine what else happened to him in there that we may not know about.


Capone was someone's prag?

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I never read anything about capone getting beat up in jail


"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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