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Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Christy_Tic] #804139
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Just read the details about the Schiff murder. So the FBI got the tapes where the murder was being planned BEFORE it was carried out and it STILL was carried out nevertheless? Like in Louie DiBono's case when they knew beforehand Gotti was going to whack him and Angelo Patrizzi's case when they knew Jerry Angiulo was going to whack him?
Have they made a habit of it, allowing murders to happen on purpose to have a stronger case against somebody?


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Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: pizzaboy] #804177
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So how was it possible for a guy like Persico to go to war with Orena even though he'd been in jail for close to ten years by that time? I realize that there's a major difference between ten and forty years off the street, but even so, do you think his actual influence in "his" faction has been overstated? I wonder if he was actually calling the shots to any extent..

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: JR19] #804178
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Originally Posted By: JR19
So how was it possible for a guy like Persico to go to war with Orena even though he'd been in jail for close to ten years by that time? I realize that there's a major difference between ten and forty years off the street, but even so, do you think his actual influence in "his" faction has been overstated? I wonder if he was actually calling the shots to any extent..

Like I said in my initial post, I'm a Bronx guy and the Colombos have never had a presence here, but they're are a good example. Because in my opinion, Persico probably DID hold onto power for a good many years. But that power fades over time, and the idea that he's still calling the shots after almost thirty years in stir is ridiculous.

But again, that's just my opinion.


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Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: mulberry] #804183
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Originally Posted By: mulberry


Both pretty much got life sentences. The longer you're in prison, the more your power fades as your friends on the street die or end up in prison.


I think Carmine Persico had some influence for quite a while because he had blood relatives in the crime family who were able to act on his behalf.

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: JR19] #804200
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Originally Posted By: JR19
So how was it possible for a guy like Persico to go to war with Orena even though he'd been in jail for close to ten years by that time? I realize that there's a major difference between ten and forty years off the street, but even so, do you think his actual influence in "his" faction has been overstated? I wonder if he was actually calling the shots to any extent..


The Commission Case was 1985. The Colombo War was 1990. That was only 5 years apart. Manna has been in prison 25 years. Look at what happened to Amuso after 15 years. Persico still has a bit of influence over the acting boss spot because he has so many relatives running the family for him. What say does he really have in the day to day running of the family sitting in a prison cell for 30 years? My opinion is his relatives are using his name to hold onto power for themselves. Most mobsters don't have 30 relatives as made members.

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Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Dwalin2011] #804394
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Just read the details about the Schiff murder. So the FBI got the tapes where the murder was being planned BEFORE it was carried out and it STILL was carried out nevertheless? Like in Louie DiBono's case when they knew beforehand Gotti was going to whack him and Angelo Patrizzi's case when they knew Jerry Angiulo was going to whack him?
Have they made a habit of it, allowing murders to happen on purpose to have a stronger case against somebody?


Yea. That's interesting cuz the Feds def knew about jelly belly way b4 he got whacked. Guess they can't watch a guy 24:7 to make sure he doesn't get killed. Wink wink. The Feds def cared more about nailing gotti than saving anyone's life let alone dibono who they could of cared less about

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Christy_Tic] #950478
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A very interesting character to say the least.

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Quiet_Doms] #962022
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In my opinion Bobby is the most stand up, incredible man I’ve ever had the pleasure of spending time with. My story with Bobby is incredible. I did 3 years at Fairton at the end of my 5 and it was a chance meeting which enabled me to call a few guys that are regularly talked about on here friends. I was given a job in commissary because I was the number 2 guy for the 067 white boys(anyone that has done fed time knows what I mean) and the number 1 guy got moved to schuylkill. I was already really tight with Richie Desciscio and one day Richie asked me to bring Bobby’s commissary back to our block because he didn’t feel like going up to get it. I brought back his commissary and when Richie tried to give me a book(stamps, my usual fee for commissary favors) I told him no thanks. From then in every week I brought Bobby his bag. The man says about 3 words a day but the few times he told stories I was like a kid watching a movie. Bobby is a machine and even though he will never get out of there he will definitely live as long as Sonny or longer. His mind is still sharp. Sorry for the rambling but I have great admiration and respect for the man. Him and Richie both. If there was ever a bullshit sentence handed down by the government it was theirs. 70 and 80 years for plotting to kill someone who died of cancer in prison is preposterous!!

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Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Christy_Tic] #962032
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Great insight, thanks for sharing.


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Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Christy_Tic] #962040
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Thanks for sharing Jshov31

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Jshov31] #962057
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Originally Posted by Jshov31
In my opinion Bobby is the most stand up, incredible man I’ve ever had the pleasure of spending time with. My story with Bobby is incredible. I did 3 years at Fairton at the end of my 5 and it was a chance meeting which enabled me to call a few guys that are regularly talked about on here friends. I was given a job in commissary because I was the number 2 guy for the 067 white boys(anyone that has done fed time knows what I mean) and the number 1 guy got moved to schuylkill. I was already really tight with Richie Desciscio and one day Richie asked me to bring Bobby’s commissary back to our block because he didn’t feel like going up to get it. I brought back his commissary and when Richie tried to give me a book(stamps, my usual fee for commissary favors) I told him no thanks. From then in every week I brought Bobby his bag. The man says about 3 words a day but the few times he told stories I was like a kid watching a movie. Bobby is a machine and even though he will never get out of there he will definitely live as long as Sonny or longer. His mind is still sharp. Sorry for the rambling but I have great admiration and respect for the man. Him and Richie both. If there was ever a bullshit sentence handed down by the government it was theirs. 70 and 80 years for plotting to kill someone who died of cancer in prison is preposterous!!

thanks for the story, very interesting.. what are the 067 white boys? obviously a gang i know, but are they related to the AB or are they their own gang?

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: RollinBones] #962058
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No gang, it’s just the way you are characterized in the feds. The 067 is middle district of pa. Whites with whites and blacks with blacks etc. when you first get on the compound they find out where you are from and check with whoever is from where you are from to get your paperwork and make sure your not a rat or a child molester.

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: Christy_Tic] #962078
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damn i woulda bet my last dollar it was a gang lmao.. thanks

Re: Louis "bobby"manna [Re: RollinBones] #962108
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