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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: SonnyL] #792340
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Originally Posted By: SonnyL
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I highly doubt Nicky Scarfo ever helped law enforcement in his life. So I'd have to say I believe you're wrong not all gangsters talk to cops.


who's to say he hasn't informed on any competition to his business in his younger days


Scarfo would more likely murder his competition than rat on them
Originally Posted By: SonnyL
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I highly doubt Nicky Scarfo ever helped law enforcement in his life. So I'd have to say I believe you're wrong not all gangsters talk to cops.


who's to say he hasn't informed on any competition to his business in his younger days


Scarfo would more likely murder his competition than rat on them


VERY true

Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792344
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How about Gene Gotti and John Carniglia= both doing 50 years and didn't inform to reduce their sentence

Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792346
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Originally Posted By: maddog
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And welcome to the board, maddog smile.


Hello Pizzaboy.

I do like a lot of your contributions to this board

Thank you. And welcome, again. Just go nice and easy, pal smile.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: pizzaboy] #792353
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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And welcome to the board, maddog smile.


Hello Pizzaboy.

I do like a lot of your contributions to this board

Thank you. And welcome, again. Just go nice and easy, pal smile.


Don't worry Imn not one these lunatic posters who just likes to cause trouble (Though I admit this thread Makes me look like one of those people)

Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792356
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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: pizzaboy] #792357
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Thank you. And welcome, again. Just go nice and easy, pal smile.
Haha...This reminded me when Ace was walking into Nicky's restaurant and Nicky says "Be nice don't you Fuk up in here." lol...Classic


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: njcapo35] #792387
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Originally Posted By: njcapo35
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Thank you. And welcome, again. Just go nice and easy, pal smile.
Haha...This reminded me when Ace was walking into Nicky's restaurant and Nicky says "Be nice don't you Fuk up in here." lol...Classic


lol

Or hitting the cowboy over the head with the phone after making him apologize for putting his mother fucking stinkin shit kickers on the table

Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792393
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Some do, but not all. Scarfo would have any of his competition killed then inform on them to LE. Even some won't be forth coming with information if they are an informant, just bits and pieces to keep LE interested, and to make sure they are not in hot water with their handlers.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792432
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Originally Posted By: maddog
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Originally Posted By: SonnyL
I highly doubt Nicky Scarfo ever helped law enforcement in his life. So I'd have to say I believe you're wrong not all gangsters talk to cops.


who's to say he hasn't informed on any competition to his business in his younger days


Who is to say he has?

shhh


good point we will never know. like a lot of mob stuff we like to talk about.

But the burden of proof lies with the accuser. If you're going to say someone might of snitched, you should back it up with evidence or a rationale beyond just "well all of these guys probably do it".


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: Ted] #792445
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Decades ago, when Italians were viciously discriminated against and opportunities in the legitimate world were constricted, a small number of ambitious and ruthless young men joined the Mafia as a way to make money and get "respect." They kept omerta because it was in their interest to do so: if they "stood up," their families would be taken care of, and they could return to the Borgata in a place of honor, and continue to earn. And, to be fair, before drugs and RICO, sentences were shorter.

Today, college, not the Mob, is the destination for smart young Italian-Americans. The Mob is left with the John and Junior Gotti's of the world. Today it's Cosa Mia, not Cosa Nostra. Many maintain ties with lawmen, who let them know that if they rat out a higher-up, they'll get a pass, or a reduced sentence, on their own crimes and go into Witness Protection.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792474
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Maddog - If you are a made guy and you do anything with police to help eliminate the competition and this information gets out, you're boss is probably going to kill you. Best case scenario is nobody is going to trust you and want to work with you again. And a made guy would know this. They would never take the risk. Beyond the fact that they mostly take pride in never working with law enforcement in any way. A small number of guys flip or help LE in some way. Not most I don't think.

An interesting question for you guys on here that have a lot of mafia knowledge....do you think that Castellano and Lucchese provided police with the license plate numbers of guys visiting Frank Matthews on Todt Hill?

Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: Turnbull] #792553
07/29/14 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Today, college, not the Mob, is the destination for smart young Italian-Americans. The Mob is left with the John and Junior Gotti's of the world. Today it's Cosa Mia, not Cosa Nostra. Many maintain ties with lawmen, who let them know that if they rat out a higher-up, they'll get a pass, or a reduced sentence, on their own crimes and go into Witness Protection.

Eerie, TB. I posted something very similar in another thread right around the same time you made this post. I must be getting smarter to be keeping up with you whistle.

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Italian Americans have produced more college graduates in this country than any other European immigrant group, save for the Jews. But keep in mind that the Jews came from more than one place (Poland, Russia, Hungary, etc.). So if you're born after, say, 1960, and you're still talking out of the side of your mouth, and saying thing like "I had no choice," and "they're only going after me because I'm Italian," you need to have your head examined.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792642
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In the very distant past most did not rat out to the police or other LEOs cutting a deal, or talk about what they did; but in the last 30 or 40 years yeah a lot do talk now. It's also like this in Italy now.

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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792644
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They don't all rat. Two reasons if people thought you might rat as a kid. The kid would never make it to adulthood.

Plus they hate cops above all others. Being a rat would help them you would rather fuck them them help them.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: maddog] #792647
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On smart Italians the kids that played soccer for us here in Brooklyn on the Brooklyn Italians were all nice kids but they were school stupid. The girls here are the smart ones, but they really can't play soccer very well. Except my daughter the communist she could really play. Played for Columbia universities soccer team.

She is comming in tommorow for my new Grand daughters baptism.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: Blackjack2121] #792648
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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
[quote=njcapo35][quote=pizzaboy]
Or hitting the cowboy over the head with the phone after making him apologize for putting his mother fucking stinkin shit kickers on the table


That cowboy tried to buy the new script for the Irishman staring DeNiro to get the inside track for a part in that movie.


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Re: Do All Gangsters Rat/Inform? I believe so [Re: Footreads] #793238
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Originally Posted By: Footreads
They don't all rat. Two reasons if people thought you might rat as a kid. The kid would never make it to adulthood.

Plus they hate cops above all others. Being a rat would help them you would rather fuck them them help them.


yeah they do rat if not to the police then to the feds or government law enforcement. Haven't you been paying attention to what's been going on in Italy and the United States the past 30 years or so?

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