GangsterBB.NET


Funko Pop! Movies:
The Godfather 50th Anniversary Collectors Set -
3 Figure Set: Michael, Vito, Sonny

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 110 guests, and 6 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website
NEW!
Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
TheGhost, Pumpkin, RussianCriminalWorld, JohnnyTheBat, Havana
10349 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 67,095
DE NIRO 44,945
J Geoff 31,284
Hollander 23,355
pizzaboy 23,296
SC 22,902
Turnbull 19,487
Mignon 19,066
Don Cardi 18,238
Sicilian Babe 17,300
plawrence 15,058
Forum Statistics
Forums21
Topics42,216
Posts1,056,190
Members10,349
Most Online796
Jan 21st, 2020
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Most loyal mobster #784927
06/20/14 09:38 PM
06/20/14 09:38 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,595
manchester uk
domwoods74 Offline OP
Underboss
domwoods74  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,595
manchester uk

Who in your opinion would be the most loyal mobster of all time ?? There r a few that spring to mind like dominik napolitano and johnny keys Simone but who would be your choice ??

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784928
06/20/14 09:52 PM
06/20/14 09:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
pizzaboy Offline
The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy  Offline
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
Very difficult question. It's also very subjective. But in my opinion, you almost have to give it to a guy who never really advanced past soldier, yet stayed loyal til the end. Because it's a lot easier to stay loyal when you're a millionaire by thirty and a skipper by forty, than it is if you're seventy years old and still on a half-sheet (and trust me, such unfortunates do exist).

And while there are too many of those guys to list, I'll throw out Chinky Facchiano as the example, because most of you guys have heard of him. The guy did half-a-dozen bids, never talked, never really got rich, yet he was a gangster til the day they closed the lid on him.

But like I said, he's just a well known example. There are others like him. That's my two cents, anyway smile.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784929
06/20/14 10:10 PM
06/20/14 10:10 PM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 164
M
MobMan Offline
Made Member
MobMan  Offline
M
Made Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 164
I say Benjamin 'Lefty' Ruggiero because after the whole Donnie Brasco thing he could if 'flipped' ( I wouldn't of blamed him ), but he did his time like a man.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784933
06/20/14 10:41 PM
06/20/14 10:41 PM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,017
SonnyBlackstein Offline
Underboss
SonnyBlackstein  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,017
Joseph Valachi.


MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: pizzaboy] #784935
06/20/14 11:01 PM
06/20/14 11:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,595
manchester uk
domwoods74 Offline OP
Underboss
domwoods74  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,595
manchester uk
Wot about john pappa he committed 4 murders for the colombos and was jailed for life without parole at 24 and was just an associate , that's a stand up guy

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784945
06/20/14 11:57 PM
06/20/14 11:57 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 217
The ridge
Lilange Offline
Made Member
Lilange  Offline
Made Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 217
The ridge
Gene gotti got hit hard wasn't allowed to plea out and missed out on the prime years of his life, thanks to his brother.


"You come at the king you best not miss"-Omar
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784953
06/21/14 02:46 AM
06/21/14 02:46 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,078
TheKillingJoke Online content
Underboss
TheKillingJoke  Online Content
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,078
Vinny Basciano -from what I've read- was loyal with the capital "L". It was almost painful to see Massino rat him out.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784955
06/21/14 04:21 AM
06/21/14 04:21 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 986
Hamilton
Scalish Online content
Underboss
Scalish  Online Content
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 986
Hamilton
Neil Dellacroce in my opinion.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: pizzaboy] #784956
06/21/14 04:25 AM
06/21/14 04:25 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 432
Chicagoland
SgWaue86 Offline
Capo
SgWaue86  Offline
Capo
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 432
Chicagoland
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Very difficult question. It's also very subjective. But in my opinion, you almost have to give it to a guy who never really advanced past soldier, yet stayed loyal til the end. Because it's a lot easier to stay loyal when you're a millionaire by thirty and a skipper by forty, than it is if you're seventy years old and still on a half-sheet (and trust me, such unfortunates do exist).

And while there are too many of those guys to list, I'll throw out Chinky Facchiano as the example, because most of you guys have heard of him. The guy did half-a-dozen bids, never talked, never really got rich, yet he was a gangster til the day they closed the lid on him.

But like I said, he's just a well known example. There are others like him. That's my two cents, anyway smile.


Very loyal, they had him on tape offering to do "work" when the guy was 90 years old, Joe Zito told him to retire and enjoy the rest of his life and his reply was you're never retired, Thomas Cafaro was on tape saying he's a mean old man who thought he should be boss but that he was also a very active and loyal guy. Great example PB, another guy who I would consider is Daniel Cilenti, and Wille Messino outta Chicago. I know he wasnt made but what about Persico's guy Hugh Apples.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784965
06/21/14 05:31 AM
06/21/14 05:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,282
B
bigboy Offline
Underboss
bigboy  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,282
An interesting subject. Some of these guys I've never heard of but the others mentioned seem to be the ones who, from my reading, just loved being a gangster. Pappa also seemed to love it, but being so young (24) doesn't have a long enough of a history to determine how loyal he would have remained over the long hall.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784973
06/21/14 06:28 AM
06/21/14 06:28 AM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 999
M
mulberry Offline
Underboss
mulberry  Offline
M
Underboss
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 999
Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Wot about john pappa he committed 4 murders for the colombos and was jailed for life without parole at 24 and was just an associate , that's a stand up guy


I think only one murder was for the Colombos. The rest were personal

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: mulberry] #784976
06/21/14 06:39 AM
06/21/14 06:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
pizzaboy Offline
The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy  Offline
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
Originally Posted By: mulberry
Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Wot about john pappa he committed 4 murders for the colombos and was jailed for life without parole at 24 and was just an associate , that's a stand up guy


I think only one murder was for the Colombos. The rest were personal

Exactly.

He was basically still a kid and wasn't around long enough to know very much. It's not like he could have given any direct testimony about the Colombo administration. So he was never really put to the test. If he knew something about, say, Allie Boy, and the Feds said "you talk, and you walk," and he took the lifetime bid anyway, then you could mention him in the same breath as some of the others mentioned here. But there's really no way of knowing.

Now, he may have stood up anyway. I'm just pointing out that he really didn't have much to trade for his freedom.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784978
06/21/14 06:51 AM
06/21/14 06:51 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 986
Hamilton
Scalish Online content
Underboss
Scalish  Online Content
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 986
Hamilton
Who was it that Pappa supposdley caught his balls off?

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #784999
06/21/14 08:22 AM
06/21/14 08:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Garbageman Offline
Made Member
Garbageman  Offline
Made Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 247
Guys like this. Auricchio was married with two small kids when he went away. After he was charged with DiGilio's murder he refused to cooperate or implicate anyone in any of the charges including murder, that he pled guilty to. I believe he was recently released.

http://articles.philly.com/1994-06-11/ne...tencing-hearing

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: Garbageman] #785004
06/21/14 09:08 AM
06/21/14 09:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
pizzaboy Offline
The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy  Offline
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
Auricchio is still a relatively young man, 55 or 56 (well, not that young, but he's my age whistle), and he never did get his button back then. And that served him well because he seems to have walked away from the life without any expectation or obligation wink .

He's a good example of what I was talking about. A guy who wasn't even made, didn't make much money, and he did the twenty years anyway. It's easy to say that millionaire capos were loyal, but their financial rewards weigh in heavily on that decision.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785007
06/21/14 09:24 AM
06/21/14 09:24 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,094
Moe_Tilden Offline
ForeverBotheringIranians
Moe_Tilden  Offline
ForeverBotheringIranians

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,094
Was Hugh Apples Irish or Scottish? I read he was Irish-American but McIntosh is a Scottish surname.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785008
06/21/14 09:24 AM
06/21/14 09:24 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,094
Moe_Tilden Offline
ForeverBotheringIranians
Moe_Tilden  Offline
ForeverBotheringIranians

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5,094
Frankie Loc deserves a mention. Joe Piney too.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: Moe_Tilden] #785012
06/21/14 09:45 AM
06/21/14 09:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
pizzaboy Offline
The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy  Offline
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Frankie Loc deserves a mention. Joe Piney too.

Agreed on both.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785013
06/21/14 09:49 AM
06/21/14 09:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,028
T
TommyGambino Offline
Underboss
TommyGambino  Offline
T
Underboss
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,028
Neil Migliore has to be in there.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: TommyGambino] #785017
06/21/14 10:01 AM
06/21/14 10:01 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 155
Downtown NYC
D
downtown Offline
Made Member
downtown  Offline
D
Made Member
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 155
Downtown NYC
Joe (Black) Gorgone , went to John Gotti's Funeral when everyone was told to stay away. Even Casso said in the book "The Brotherhood " that he could never be as loyal to LCN as Joe Black is.


wise old owl sat on a oak , the more he heard the less he spoke , the less he spoke the more he heard , wasn't that a wise ole bird.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785108
06/21/14 04:21 PM
06/21/14 04:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 366
LCN1987 Offline
Mannaggia alla miseria
LCN1987  Offline
Mannaggia alla miseria
Capo
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 366
Old man Paruta comes to mind...

Last edited by LCN1987; 06/21/14 04:27 PM.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785109
06/21/14 04:32 PM
06/21/14 04:32 PM
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 814
Zavattoni Offline
Underboss
Zavattoni  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 814
I'd go with guys like Al Facciano, who was made for over a century or so, and never got any higher. Was loyal till the end.

Neil Migliore is another that comes to mind, Amuso wanted him dead and almost succeded. Didn't sway Old Neil away from the Lucchese's, though.

Joe Arcuri, Guy served under 6 Bosses. Mangano, Anastasia, Gambino, Castellano and Gotti. He was loyal till the end.


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785112
06/21/14 04:39 PM
06/21/14 04:39 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 137
T
TheMechanic Offline
Made Member
TheMechanic  Offline
T
Made Member
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 137
Anthony Indelicato, did a good bit of time and could have gave the Feds plenty of information on top guys, even the guys who whacked "Whack-Whack's" dad. Just one of many though.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: Zavattoni] #785114
06/21/14 04:53 PM
06/21/14 04:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
pizzaboy Offline
The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy  Offline
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
Originally Posted By: Zavattoni
I'd go with guys like Al Facciano, who was made for over a century or so, and never got any higher. Was loyal till the end.

Chinky's the first guy I mentioned.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785149
06/21/14 07:22 PM
06/21/14 07:22 PM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 124
V
Vknicks Offline
Made Member
Vknicks  Offline
V
Made Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 124
Matty Madonna, did a lot of time when he was young before he was made, has two indictments now and still as active as ever, he is a true loyal Gangster

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: Vknicks] #785157
06/21/14 08:25 PM
06/21/14 08:25 PM
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 116
Yankees1951 Offline
Made Member
Yankees1951  Offline
Made Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 116
Originally Posted By: Vknicks
Matty Madonna, did a lot of time when he was young before he was made, has two indictments now and still as active as ever, he is a true loyal Gangster


The guy's still kicking it for his age. He's loyal and given the civil war in their family back then he remains a figurehead that a lot of the younger guys look up too

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: LCN1987] #785158
06/21/14 08:35 PM
06/21/14 08:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,595
manchester uk
domwoods74 Offline OP
Underboss
domwoods74  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,595
manchester uk
Great choice , old man joe paruta was as loyal as they come . I would love to c a pic of him

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785161
06/21/14 10:06 PM
06/21/14 10:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,017
SonnyBlackstein Offline
Underboss
SonnyBlackstein  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,017
Anthony Indelicato.

Great choice.

He served for 25yrs under THE guy who whacked his dad.

THEN, when that guy ROLLS, the freakin HEAD of the family, and Bruno gets done for murder. He STILL eats his time.

Let's say that again. He SERVED the guy who killed his dad. For 25yrs.
The guy who KILLED his dad, THEN FLIPS. Bruno still doesn't roll.
Bruno then gets done for MURDER.
And as an old man, takes his pintch.

That. Is serious gangster sh*t.

Last edited by SonnyBlackstein; 06/21/14 10:09 PM.

MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #785172
06/22/14 12:02 AM
06/22/14 12:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 210
philly
SonnyL Offline
Made Member
SonnyL  Offline
Made Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 210
philly
Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Anthony Indelicato.

Great choice.

He served for 25yrs under THE guy who whacked his dad.

THEN, when that guy ROLLS, the freakin HEAD of the family, and Bruno gets done for murder. He STILL eats his time.

Let's say that again. He SERVED the guy who killed his dad. For 25yrs.
The guy who KILLED his dad, THEN FLIPS. Bruno still doesn't roll.
Bruno then gets done for MURDER.
And as an old man, takes his pintch.

That. Is serious gangster sh*t.

Yeah you're absolutely right that is some real gangster stuff that man is most definately loyal Cosa Nostra through and through.

Re: Most loyal mobster [Re: domwoods74] #785182
06/22/14 01:16 AM
06/22/14 01:16 AM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,212
naples,italy
furio_from_naples Offline
furio_from_naples  Offline

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 7,212
naples,italy
Dominick Napolitano and Benjamin Ruggiero:sentenced to death for the affair Pistone sonny black was killed, and Lefty was saved only because he was arrested by the FBI.

Giacomo "Fat Jack" Dinorscio:,sentenced in the mid-80s, for drug trafficking to 30 years, and later indicted in the famous 21-month trial,I'm note sure if is was a made man ora simple associate,but although many in his place would flip, he did not do it,and died in 2003 after get out jail after almost 18 years.

Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato:born 1947,in 1986 was sentenced to 40 years.
In 1998, Indelicato was released from prison. Although wanted dead at one point, Indelicato went back to work for the Bonannos, operating his father's old crew and becoming one of the Bonanno family's biggest earners. During this period, he briefly returned to prison for violating parole by meeting with Bonanno mobsters.n 2001, Indelicato participated in the murder of Bonanno associate Frank Santoro who had threatened to kidnap one of the sons of then Bonanno capo, Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano, a close friend of Indelicato's. Santoro was shot to death while walking his dog in the Bronx.Indelicato served as a driver. In 2007, Basciano was convicted of the murder. In February 2006, Indelicato was charged with murder and racketeering for the 2001 Santoro murder.In August 2008, Indelicato pleaded guilty to lesser charges and on December 16, 2008, was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison. As of March 2012, Indelicato is imprisoned at the Fairton Federal Correctional Institution (FCI) in New Jersey. His projected release date is September 9, 2023, when he would be 76 years old

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™