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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: NorthJeresyLife]
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02/17/14 11:54 AM
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Dago that was the smartest post I've seen since I've signed up. Kudos to you.
Seriously. Do u have to think real hard to breath or does it come natural?
Laugh. My. Fucking. Ass. Off. You Chicago guys sure give me a chuckle. Thanks for the expense. sonny u live in austrialia. have you even met an italian before You obviously haven't a clue as to how many Italians, Calabrians in particular, are in Australia.
La madre degli idioti e' sempre incinta.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: carmela]
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02/17/14 01:21 PM
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carmela, what do you do besides embarrass and haress upstanding italians citizens with this mafia garbage I was just trying to correct what you said about Italians in Australia. If you feel embarrassed by your ignorance, then do something about it. Read a book. Come on Carm, There may be italians in australia....but only jersey(particularly north jersey) can u find the rare breed of the SUPER ITALIANS!!! 
"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."
-Jordan Belfort
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: DBCooper]
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02/17/14 02:50 PM
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Yes that's true but Chicago has never had a major player rat. Aside from Nick Calabrese, who was a soldier, Chicago has never had a made guy rat.
Compared to New York who has had a boss (Massino), multiple underbosses (Casso, Gravano, Vitale), consiglieres, and capos flip.
To say nobody in Chicago rats is untrue but the ratio compared to other cities is far greater and there's no denying that. The lack of ratting could play a part on there being less indictments. And I'm pretty sure aside from family secrets, all the cases were from undercover agents, not rats.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: DBCooper]
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02/17/14 03:04 PM
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It's also much smaller than any of the New York families. You are talking about 28 made guys in Chicago (maybe) and 600+ in New York. So your sample size 95% New York, 5% Chicago- and then you express surprise when New York has more rats. Of course it does, the operation is orders bigger.
We are talking apples and oranges.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: LittleNicky]
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02/17/14 04:21 PM
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It's also much smaller than any of the New York families. You are talking about 28 made guys in Chicago (maybe) and 600+ in New York. So your sample size 95% New York, 5% Chicago- and then you express surprise when New York has more rats. Of course it does, the operation is orders bigger.
We are talking apples and oranges. 600 members (god knows how many are wired) scrambling for the same dollar 30-40 members free to commit scams in the most crooked state in the country so yeah it's apples and oranges
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: NickyEyes1]
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02/17/14 06:37 PM
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Yes that's true but Chicago has never had a major player rat. Aside from Nick Calabrese, who was a soldier, Chicago has never had a made guy rat.
Compared to New York who has had a boss (Massino), multiple underbosses (Casso, Gravano, Vitale), consiglieres, and capos flip.
To say nobody in Chicago rats is untrue but the ratio compared to other cities is far greater and there's no denying that. The lack of ratting could play a part on there being less indictments. And I'm pretty sure aside from family secrets, all the cases were from undercover agents, not rats. Nick calabrese was a made guy no?
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: short841]
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02/17/14 06:57 PM
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Yes that's true but Chicago has never had a major player rat. Aside from Nick Calabrese, who was a soldier, Chicago has never had a made guy rat.
Compared to New York who has had a boss (Massino), multiple underbosses (Casso, Gravano, Vitale), consiglieres, and capos flip.
To say nobody in Chicago rats is untrue but the ratio compared to other cities is far greater and there's no denying that. The lack of ratting could play a part on there being less indictments. And I'm pretty sure aside from family secrets, all the cases were from undercover agents, not rats. Nick calabrese was a made guy no? He said that Nick was a soldier.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: DBCooper]
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02/18/14 10:58 AM
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I am not a "Chicago fan" and frankly this pissing contest between NY and Chicago o0n this form is stupid, but everytime I see that "28 made guys" in Chicago myth I literally laugh out loud
WHEN will you guys learn that public FBI public information is deliberatly Misinformation and desighned to be misleading????
For the 5th time, they went to the US Supreme court for the right to use this misinformation as an investigative method.
Been there and done it
I am very much for real, so if you ask, make sure you really want to know.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: LittleNicky]
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02/18/14 11:08 AM
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I'm curious what people mean when they use the phrase "going legit"? If you are talking about like what happened in buffalo, going into a food business, that's complete legit and no longer really organized crime. They have to compete like every other guy and the LCN really is no longer LCN. That kind of going "legit" is another word for people just leaving the life all together and admitting the mafia in chicago is dying.
Then you got guys like Nicky Jr that believe that white collar scams are a form of going "legit".
I guess a middling position is using the front businesses for more than money laundering, but relying on them as a source of revenue. But there is still some criminal revenue. In Chicago, more specificly Elmwood Park, Melrose park and the NW Burbs, as previously expalned, means going into legitamate dealings, and earning by the activity that surrounds it. This is nothing new, if fact it is a throwback to the 50s and 60s. For example, the construction of the interstate highway system MADE Buffalo,The LIUNA pension funds was like a money tree and money laundry all rolled into one. Buffalo controled everything from the heavy equipment to the Por a Pottys and no one got a contract without a "performence bond" This is not unlike what the outfit and Rockford are doing in Cook, Lake, Mchenry, Boon and Winnebago counties, just on a smaller scale.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: Snakes]
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02/18/14 11:36 AM
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Yeah, but Chicago has never had a preponderance of made guys. Let's say for the sake of argument that they have 30-40 made guys now - that's about 40-50% of the total members at the Outfit's peak in the '50s and '60s, roughly proportional to the decline in the New York families over that same time period. 28 identified made guys, six or seven years ago, is not too preposterous of a notion. There are more than 28 made guys just in Bridgeview, Elmwood park and Melrose park. It is really a matter of Semantics becuse actually, no one in the outfit is "made" in the traditional sense anyway, never really have been. You have to understand Chicago has always had a different layout and format than anyone else. Since family secrets they have completly retooled. No more Boss-Underboss, capos etc It has been replaces by a chain of skippers and street bosses with no clearly defined hiarchey, and thus no one with a target on their back.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: Five_Felonies]
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02/18/14 02:16 PM
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It has been replaces by a chain of skippers and street bosses with no clearly defined hiarchey, and thus no one with a target on their back. smart move on their part, copying the calabrians!  They don't even have that much structure, becuse they have no single organization,just gangs and alliences.
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Re: Rank of the La Cosa Nostra Families today
[Re: TheArm]
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02/18/14 02:37 PM
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It has been replaces by a chain of skippers and street bosses with no clearly defined hiarchey, and thus no one with a target on their back. smart move on their part, copying the calabrians! They don't even have that much structure, becuse they have no single organization,just gangs and alliences. You need to elaborate on statements like that & be a little bit more specific, or keyboard smart alecs like Sonny shithead will continue to make snide remarks. Statements like the one you just made are a little bit too vague. Intriguing, but nonetheless vague.
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