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Re: Amanda Knox may be extradited. That is why [Re: furio_from_naples] #761860
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PB...shouldn't you be at the airport getting out of town before the next wave of snow hits town?

Damn buddy...go for that sun and your next post i hopes comes from a sunny florida beach!

Furio...you tell our friends in Italy to send me an assortment of some fine Italian cheeses, some vino and a couple cases of those oranges shipped from sicily with the "special" extra ingredient wink ....and i'll be more then happy to personally deliver that alleged murderer to my paison in Italy. cool wink

Seriously though, i caught a interview she did and she definitely comes off as a cold bitch. Not that being a bitch makes her a murderer....i know plenty that aren't. But i can understand why most Italians dislike her so much.

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I completely agree with the last part of your comment. She comes across as a cold bitch, i completely believe that she was fine after the murder and was joking around with Sollecitto. I also cringed when she did the cartwheel after being released. Then again i believe there's a good chance that she's completely innocent and that she sent 2 years in jail for no reason. I ask again what evidence has she been convicted on exactly?

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I read that link you posted yesterday Camarel about the cases sex angle....thanks. I laughed when they mentioned her vibrator. What the hell does a vibrator have to do with any of this? lol

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Shes a Slut!!! grin


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Shes a Slut!!! grin

lol Well thats cool...i wonder what she's doing this weekend whistle ....Mrs GC is going to visit her sister so i have some free time. shhh

Just kidding!

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haha i hope mrs.GC doesn't read ur posts on this site....my girlfriend is always asking me what im always doing on my laptop all the time, i just tell her im looking at porn lol.


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Del when i'm home i'm usually hiding in my man cave....Mrs GC has had her access revoked!!

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haha good man, unfortunately no man cave for me, live in a small apartment with the girlfriend and another roommate whos also a girl...both gorgeous girls...sounds like a dream come true right? Wrong!!!


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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
haha i hope mrs.GC doesn't read ur posts on this site....my girlfriend is always asking me what im always doing on my laptop all the time, i just tell her im looking at porn lol.


That would be just as bad as telling your girlfriend your masturbating while shes watching wendy williams. Why look on porn dell go woo your women the goodfella's can wait lol


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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
I read that link you posted yesterday Camarel about the cases sex angle....thanks. I laughed when they mentioned her vibrator. What the hell does a vibrator have to do with any of this? lol


Well alot of women when incarcerated don't trust using vibrators that are getting passed around. I'm sure there not sterilized but I'm sure they can find a friend in there. lol


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haha i hope mrs.GC doesn't read ur posts on this site....my girlfriend is always asking me what im always doing on my laptop all the time, i just tell her im looking at porn lol.


That would be just as bad as telling your girlfriend your masturbating while shes watching wendy williams. Why look on porn dell go woo your women the goodfella's can wait lol


wendy williams??? if i ever catch my girl watching dat bolshit she knows she has beating coming! smile


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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
I read that link you posted yesterday Camarel about the cases sex angle....thanks. I laughed when they mentioned her vibrator. What the hell does a vibrator have to do with any of this? lol


It's part of her demon-whore image lol . Seriously though i'd like to bump this question for Furio, I ask again what evidence has she been convicted on exactly? I have no idea why Furio is so desperate for her to be extradited, when he himself can't even say he is convinced that she's guilty. If she is extradited i don't see her being released again, but i don't think anyone could say that the Italian courts have proven her guilt.

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Originally Posted By: Camarel

Seriously though i'd like to bump this question for Furio, I ask again what evidence has she been convicted on exactly? I have no idea why Furio is so desperate for her to be extradited, when he himself can't even say he is convinced that she's guilty. If she is extradited i don't see her being released again, but i don't think anyone could say that the Italian courts have proven her guilt.


I was obviously incorrect in my thinking....but I thought that the UK would have been pleased that Rudy Guede is locked up-case closed. And I thought that Italy would have been angry about Sollecito being convicted on virtually no evidence.

The prosecutors cannot even come up with a reasonable motive. Simply Google "Amanda Knox unflushed toilet". People don't get whacked over unflushed toilets.


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Camarel I'm not desperate for the extradition,is just for justice.

I had no time because I'm preparing for university exams, but I will try to find the text of the two judgments and translate it for you for see the evidence for the guilt of Knox and Sollecito.

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Furio, I believe that Camarel was curious as to why you believe Knox (and Sollecito) are guilty-not the judge's opinion, but yours. Just off the top of your head, what physical or forensic evidence were they convicted with?

I understand there were circumstantial evidence used to convict them, but those aren't usually enough for a murder conviction. Hence, the widespread controversy and media coverage.


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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Furio, I believe that Camarel was curious as to why you believe Knox (and Sollecito) are guilty-not the judge's opinion, but yours. Just off the top of your head, what physical or forensic evidence were they convicted with?

I understand there were circumstantial evidence used to convict them, but those aren't usually enough for a murder conviction. Hence, the widespread controversy and media coverage.


That's exactly right, Little Man. I'm not asking you to repeat what the judge said, i'm asking you. What convinces you of her guilt? The fact is all you have said so far is that you lean towards guilt. So can you say it's for justice when you can't even say yourself that you're convinced?

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Amanda Knox didn't do it. She not guilty that black guy did it !


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Originally Posted By: NinoSconza
Amanda Knox didn't do it. She not guilty that black guy did it !


That's pretty much it lol

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Originally Posted By: NinoSconza
Amanda Knox didn't do it. She not guilty that black guy did it !


Well according to Sarah Silverman:

"Everybody blames the Jews for killing Christ, and then the Jews try to pass it off on the Romans. I'm one of the few people that believe it was the blacks."


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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
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I didn't follow the case too closely so i really don't know what they had on her and the details of the case.

But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.


They actually have very little on her, in terms of evidence. However, Knox continually changed her alibi, had conflicting stories with her ex boyfriend, made a confession under duress- which was later recanted, she falsely accused her boss of committing the murder, admitted to being under the influence of drugs and booze during the night in question, turned off her cell phone, and there's still confusion as to her whereabouts during the night. Plus, there's debate over whether the knife obtained from her ex boyfriend's house was really the murder weapon, and the dna evidence was supposedly tainted. Some say the media circus surrounding the case made it impossible for her to receive a fair trial.

While she cannot prove that she was not involved, the authorities seemingly cannot prove that she was involved, nor even had a motive. The theory of a group sex game gone bad is a bit of a stretch. Which brings us to the issue of presumed innocence until proven guilty, or vice versa?

This is a unique site as we have members in the US, UK, and Italy. Supposedly, the public perception about her guilt differs in these countries, so I'm interested in how she has been portrayed in the UK and Italy.



she's guilty.....just like george zimmerman, oj simpson, and casey anthony

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
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I didn't follow the case too closely so i really don't know what they had on her and the details of the case.

But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.


They actually have very little on her, in terms of evidence. However, Knox continually changed her alibi, had conflicting stories with her ex boyfriend, made a confession under duress- which was later recanted, she falsely accused her boss of committing the murder, admitted to being under the influence of drugs and booze during the night in question, turned off her cell phone, and there's still confusion as to her whereabouts during the night. Plus, there's debate over whether the knife obtained from her ex boyfriend's house was really the murder weapon, and the dna evidence was supposedly tainted. Some say the media circus surrounding the case made it impossible for her to receive a fair trial.

While she cannot prove that she was not involved, the authorities seemingly cannot prove that she was involved, nor even had a motive. The theory of a group sex game gone bad is a bit of a stretch. Which brings us to the issue of presumed innocence until proven guilty, or vice versa?

This is a unique site as we have members in the US, UK, and Italy. Supposedly, the public perception about her guilt differs in these countries, so I'm interested in how she has been portrayed in the UK and Italy.



she's guilty.....just like george zimmerman, oj simpson, and casey anthony


What exactly convinces you of her guilt cook, are you even the slightest bit familiar with the case? Have you read this - According to the prosecution's reconstruction, Knox had attacked Kercher, repeatedly banged her head against a wall, forcefully held her face, tried to remove her clothes, cut her with a knife, inflicted the fatal stab wound, and then took her two mobile phones and faked a burglary.[146] Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in the bedroom, his DNA was found on Kercher and her clothing, and his skin cells were inside her body. Guede's DNA mixed with Kercher's was in bloodstains on the inside of her shoulder bag.[147] No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito -

So what evidence has you convinced that she's guilty? I'm assuming this is just another one of your knee-jerk reactions, when you get all outraged even though you're not quite sure what your outraged about lol .

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@camarel

innocent people don't change their alibi

either she was getting a train ran on her at the time of the murder or not

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According to one article i read....at first she said she was there and then named a guy as the killer. Then she changed her story. What was up with that?

This woman should just keep her mouth shut...the more i hear her try to explain stuff the more i don't like her.


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I think that Amanda and Sollecito are guilty,because first he accused Patrick lumumba,after change idea.
Now if is only Guede that killed Meredith,;
Why Amanda and Raffaele don't stop him? And why they create a false burglary?
Why Amanda don't want to turn back to italy ?
If I'm innocent,I'll turn back to to prove my full innocence ?
even if they don't directly killed Meredith,are Guede's accomplices , however, and have to pay for it.

That's what I think Camarel

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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
I think that Amanda and Sollecito are guilty,because first he accused Patrick lumumba,after change idea.
Now if is only Guede that killed Meredith,;
Why Amanda and Raffaele don't stop him? And why they create a false burglary?
Why Amanda don't want to turn back to italy ?
If I'm innocent,I'll turn back to to prove my full innocence ?
even if they don't directly killed Meredith,are Guede's accomplices , however, and have to pay for it.

That's what I think Camarel

None of that is even close to proving beyond a reasonable doubt that shes guilty, in the US you probably wouldnt even get an indictment on that evidence let alone a guilty verdict.


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I think that Amanda and Sollecito are guilty,because first he accused Patrick lumumba,after change idea.
Now if is only Guede that killed Meredith,;
Why Amanda and Raffaele don't stop him? And why they create a false burglary?
Why Amanda don't want to turn back to italy ?
If I'm innocent,I'll turn back to to prove my full innocence ?
even if they don't directly killed Meredith,are Guede's accomplices , however, and have to pay for it.

That's what I think Camarel

None of that is even close to proving beyond a reasonable doubt that shes guilty, in the US you probably wouldnt even get an indictment on that evidence let alone a guilty verdict.


Yes, some of the issues listed by Furio are why there are questions surrounding Sollecito and Knox's innocence- particularly the fake burglary and falsely accusing her boss. If you are guilty until proven innocent, then I would understand their guilt. However, in Italy, if you are innocent until proven guilty, then there should be more evidence for a murder conviction.

As far as Knox not returning to Italy for the retrial, I understand as per Italian law, it wasn't necessary. So, I'm confused how that could be used against her in determining guilt. I know I wouldn't return, regardless if I was guilty or innocent.

As far as why Knox and Sollecito didn't save Kercher, I believe they claimed that they weren't in the house when the murder occurred.


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I think people are confused on what burglary she admitted to staging, if not then you're randomly accusing her of staging some burglary related to the murder that yet again there's not the slightest bit of evidence for, here is an article that speaks about the fake burglary she admitted to staging - http://truejustice.org/ee/documents/perugia/amanda-knox-admits-staging-burglary.html .

Regarding her false accusation against Lumumba, she claims it was made after threats from the Italian police. Whether you believe her or not about that, she also said this - "Granted, I was in a position where I couldn't give answers. But if you read what I said after my interrogations, I said I could not testify against him, and yet his lawyer continues to say I was going to let him languish in prison... ", that's easily verifiable that she refused to testify against him before he had been ruled out as a suspect. Take from that what you will, but i personally can't rule out that she initially named Lumumba under duress.

You have also connected Knox and Sollecito to the murder, solely on Guede's word, who is the only person that has any physical evidence against him. The person who has changed his story multiple times is Guede, he has turned his story from him being completely innocent to him being just an accomplice of Knox and Sollecito. I suppose it's just a coincedence that the only one of the three with a criminal record is Guede, and the only one with any forensic evidence connecting him to the murder is Guede?

I at least need to thank you Furio, for telling me why exactly you think she's guilty. As i expected cook doesn't understand the case and just parroted a random talking point the media have threw out.

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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
I think that Amanda and Sollecito are guilty,because first he accused Patrick lumumba,after change idea.
Now if is only Guede that killed Meredith,;
Why Amanda and Raffaele don't stop him? And why they create a false burglary?
Why Amanda don't want to turn back to italy ?
If I'm innocent,I'll turn back to to prove my full innocence ?
even if they don't directly killed Meredith,are Guede's accomplices , however, and have to pay for it.

That's what I think Camarel

None of that is even close to proving beyond a reasonable doubt that shes guilty, in the US you probably wouldnt even get an indictment on that evidence let alone a guilty verdict.


Yes, some of the issues listed by Furio are why there are questions surrounding Sollecito and Knox's innocence- particularly the fake burglary and falsely accusing her boss. If you are guilty until proven innocent, then I would understand their guilt. However, in Italy, if you are innocent until proven guilty, then there should be more evidence for a murder conviction.

As far as Knox not returning to Italy for the retrial, I understand as per Italian law, it wasn't necessary. So, I'm confused how that could be used against her in determining guilt. I know I wouldn't return, regardless if I was guilty or innocent.

As far as why Knox and Sollecito didn't save Kercher, I believe they claimed that they weren't in the house when the murder occurred.


She's expected to use up her appeals, then it's necessary for her to return. The difference with Sollecito is that he is an Italian. Dellacroce is spot on, everything Furio said is circumstancial and i can't see how any of that could convince a jury of Knoxs guilt. I addressed all points except the parts about Knox returning to Italy, for that i have to ask why on earth would she? This doesn't point toward her guilt in the slightest, Furio i know you think she's guilty but say hypothetically she's innocent, and she spent 2 years in a jail for nothing, then that same country convicted her again, why would she return? She would obviously not have alot of confidence in that countries justice system.

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There are two different issues associated with this murder trial:

1. Have the Italian court system proved their cases against Knox and Sollecito?

2. Irrespective of the evidence presented, were Knox and Sollecito involved with the murder? (As mob aficionados, we're well aware that many people are credited with murders without actually being convicted.)

If you are of the opinion that they were somehow involved, does that rationalize the judges' controversial decisions? Are you OK with convicting guilty parties without the proper evidence... does the end justify the means?

Americans tend to be fascinated with high profile murder trials. Personally, I wanted Casey Anthony to be found guilty because I honestly believe she committed the murder. Similar debates were waged with the Natalie Holloway, Trayvon Martin, and Nicole Simpson cases. The Gotti trial with Diane Giacalone can also be included.


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I did some reading about this case when the trial (s) were going on and I remember the evidence being flimsy to non existent, the Italian prosecuter even claimed Knox was some kind of Satan worshiper. There was ample evidence against Guede though, he even took a dump in Kerchers toilet. I don't hesitate to believe the Italians wouldn't love to just stick it to the arrogant and bullying yank as our friend Furio would say!

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