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Amanda Knox may be extradited. That is why #761580
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http://news.panorama.it/cronaca/amanda-knox-estradizione

Here's what the law requires, that governs relations between Italy and the United States-

"They want me in jail. But I will be a fugitive." These were the wordsa few hours before the verdict of the Court of Assizes of Appeal of Florence for the murder of Meredith Kercher, Amanda Knox pronounced in an interview via Skype on the New York Times. Amanda, in front of the camera, is confident and determined. "Nothing can erase the experience of being unjustly imprisoned, and for this reason I will never go back to Italy," continued the young man from in Seattle that, waiting for the reading of the verdict, could not resist the temptation to change their look making even accompany to the hairdresser.

But the American student that for years has convinced an entire nation of his innocence, in recent months has begun to lose credibility among American public opinion. For the U.S. media, in fact, the granitic image of the girl wrongly accused began to crumble.
Many newspapers and television, which for years had defended describing it as a "victim" of the Italian judicial system, they began to speak of her as an evil person, as a perfect assassin.
A definition that the girl with the chameleonic look , however, has never accepted. "I'm not so - reiterates in the interview at the NY Times - are different from how has painted." But now there is a judgment, the process "bis", that the convict her to 28 years and six months in prison.

And 'now, however, in view of his statements and some of historical precedents between Italy and the U.S. starting questions: Amanda Knox serve the sentence in Italian prison facilities? The Italian judiciary will be able to bring in the Belpaese, or how they think the majority of Italians, the beautiful American student will be able to "get away"?

Just the execution of the sentence, the story of Amanda Knox will be destined to create controversy and maybe even diplomatic friction between our country and the U.S., as has already happened in the past for the other two cases: the massacre of Cermis, and murder of the agent of SISMI, the Italian intelligence services, Nicola Calipari.
In both cases, the diplomats of the two countries have had to 'work' to recognize the faults of American citizens. And in the case of Cermis the four officers responsible for the deaths of 20 people, have never claimed a trial in Italian territory, a country where the massacre had taken place.

Slaughter of Cermis: February 3, 1998 a military aircraft Grumman EA-6B Prowler U.S. cut the cable of the Cermis cable car in Val di Fiemme Cavalese and causes the death of 20 people. The plane took off from Aviano Air Base at 14:36; During a training flight at low altitude, cut off the ropes of the lower trunk of the Cermis cable car. The cabin, in which there were twenty people, fell from a height of about 150 meters and crashed to the ground after a flight time of 7 seconds. The aircraft, damaged the wing and tail, however, was able to return to base. Despite the presence of witnesses, the sequence of events appeared not immediately clear.

Only the readiness of judges of Trentino, who immediately seized the plane indicted in Aviano base, allowed to clarify the responsibilities. In fact, the plane was ready to be disassembled and repaired. The Italian prosecutors demanded to process the four marines in Italy, but the judge for preliminary investigations of Trent held that, under the Convention of London of 19 June 1951 on the status of military NATO should recognize the jurisdiction over the case to the military justice U.S.. The incident created a climate of high tension between the U.S. and Italian. The President of the United States of America Bill Clinton apologized for the incident just a few days later, and promised the victims' families, monetary compensation. After a few weeks the Prime Minister, Romano Prodi at the time along with a representative of the Italian government, flew in U.S.

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Calipari case:
Nicola Calipari was killed in Baghdad, March 4, 2005 by a U.S. soldier during the phase immediately following release of the journalist of Il Manifesto, Sgrena.
The story immediately creates strong diplomatic friction between Italy and the United States of America, as in the case of Cermis. The Italian judiciary opened an investigation into the matter immediately, indicting the soldier Mario Lozano for the murder of Calipari and the attempted murder of Giuliana Sgrena and the driver, Andrea Carpani, the Major of the Carabinieri, in force to the SISMI, both injured.

But they were made two versions of what happened, one Italian and one American, among them many conflicting points. The Prosecutor's Office of Rome June 19, 2006 formalizing the request for trial by the U.S. military Mario Lozano. But Mario Lozano is impossible to find: is the lack of collaboration, demand and not obtained from the United States. The U.S. authorities also rejected an international rogatory presented by the Prosecutor of Rome. By judgment of 19 June 2008, the First Criminal Chamber of the Supreme Court rejects the appeal of the Prosecutor of Rome, confirming the lack of jurisdiction on the Italian case.
And now there's another court case that links Italy to the USA, that of Amanda Knox.


Lawyer Stefano Toniolo, criminal lawyer of the law firm Martinez and Novebaci,


Amanda Knox was convicted, but she from Seattle was categorical, and has made it known that won't return to Italy. Amanda is now technically a fugitive?

"No, it is not a fugitive, until final judgment of the Supreme Court. The judges of the Court of Assizes and Appeal of Florence in the reading of the sentence were very clear and specified that Amanda Knox is "legitimately" in his country "

What tools has at its disposal, the Italian judiciary to demand the return to Italy of Amandaso discounts worth in Italian prisons?

"It will take the judgment of the Supreme Court and if it is confirmed the judgment of the court of Florence, can be applied, an Convention stipulated with the U.S. in 1983 and entered into force the following yearthat regulates the extradition in cases where the sentence exceeds one year in prison. Not only that, the extradition is also provided for all those offenses which are consider yourself even those in the U.S., so even in the case of Amanda Knox, with the only exception, for the political and military crimes "

Many Italians believe and fear that there may be a Cermis "bis"?

"The Convention of '83, excludes from the Treaty, the military offenses and the massacre of Cermis, fell under this category. This is a completely different case and I think it's difficult not to be granted the extradition considering the relations between the two countries even though in the network, at this time, circulating dissenting views. Distinguished criminal lawyers argue that the extradition could be hampered by an incompatibility between the US-Italian treaties and the U.S. Constitution on due process. In this case, if Amanda was not extradited, Italy has the opportunity to request the execution of the sentence in American prisons. I think the latter is the most likely hypothesis "

There is a risk of diplomatic tension between Italy and U.S.?


"It 's very difficult for this to happen but now we are still in the field of hypotheses. Maybe some tension may also occur into account very strong commitment on the part of the American media in the fight for the innocence of Knox. But then again, now it is still very early. We must wait for the judgment of the Supreme Court. "




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I didn't follow the case too closely so i really don't know what they had on her and the details of the case.

But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.


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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.

I agree with that 1000 percent. I couldn't care less about karma catching up with any murderer. But I still don't think we'll extradite. Just my gut feeling smile.


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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
I didn't follow the case too closely so i really don't know what they had on her and the details of the case.

But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.


They actually have very little on her, in terms of evidence. However, Knox continually changed her alibi, had conflicting stories with her ex boyfriend, made a confession under duress- which was later recanted, she falsely accused her boss of committing the murder, admitted to being under the influence of drugs and booze during the night in question, turned off her cell phone, and there's still confusion as to her whereabouts during the night. Plus, there's debate over whether the knife obtained from her ex boyfriend's house was really the murder weapon, and the dna evidence was supposedly tainted. Some say the media circus surrounding the case made it impossible for her to receive a fair trial.

While she cannot prove that she was not involved, the authorities seemingly cannot prove that she was involved, nor even had a motive. The theory of a group sex game gone bad is a bit of a stretch. Which brings us to the issue of presumed innocence until proven guilty, or vice versa?

This is a unique site as we have members in the US, UK, and Italy. Supposedly, the public perception about her guilt differs in these countries, so I'm interested in how she has been portrayed in the UK and Italy.


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Thanks Giancarlo e Pizzaboy for the support

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But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.

I agree with that 1000 percent. I couldn't care less about karma catching up with any murderer. But I still don't think we'll extradite. Just my gut feeling smile.




Little Man, if the Supreme Court says that you have to redo the process, a reason, or rather more than one there will be also the Knox family hired a well-known public relations spending more than a million dollars to make the story of amanda ,the story that you americans like so much, the poor Yankee girl, innocent who must fight against an unjust system in a third world country.

Guede only for the summary procedure was sentenced to only 16 years for complicity in murder and sexual assault by a judgment of the Supreme Court, First Criminal Division, dated December 16, 2010.

For others who are in favor or against the extradition of Knox, and remembering that the real victim here is Meredith Kercher, that is dead, and no sentence will bring her the affection of his loved ones.

Here is the reconstruction of events.

" According to the reconstruction, Knox and Sollecito, on the evening of 1 November 2007, meet in Piazza Grimana with Guede, Knox's friend, who decides to join them for the evening. The three travel to the student's home, where her roommate Meredith Kercher,had recently returned after an evening spent with her british friends, immediately noticed her presence as the door of her room was ajar.

Knox and Sollecito exchange effusions and intimate tenderness, while Guede is in the bathroom, as found in the investigation. Guede, probably excited by the outpourings of Sollecito and Knox, would be entered into the Kercher's room, groped for an approach, but, in front of his refusal, he would taken violent behavior to groped to rape her.
At the cries of Kercher, Knox and Sollecito would joiny with Guede,in the criminal action, in that they would find an "exciting situation", so trying to immobilize with the threat of a knife.

The situation would have degenerated to the continued resistance of the Kercher. The Knox with the kitchen knife affects the victim in the neck, causing it life-threatening injuries, though the death takes place after a long and excruciating agony. The three defendants, immediately after the murder, to steal mobile phones, for fear of generating alarm from someone that call her no answer, devices that will be found in a ravine just a few hundred meters from the scene of the crime. The three head off in different directions, Guede in a nightclub , Knox and Sollecito at the Sollecito's house. The next morning the two attempt to erase the traces of the crime and then break a window of the house to stage a fake robbery in order to sidetrack the investigation "

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oh good looks like i'm not the only person that didn't know what was going on and didn't really care.


....is she the american version of joran van der sloot?

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is she the american version of joran van der sloot?

That's one case where I'm happy the scumbag got caught in South America instead of here. Hopefully those Peruvian guards are passing him around like a bottle of pisco right now.


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Countries quite often refuse to extradite people to the united states and it doesn't end in international crisis. Britain just did it recently because the defendant was depressed or something.

As for this case, I can't for the life of me figure out the Italian appellate process. How did the trial court find guilty and the appeals court find acquittal? Appeals courts in the states don't find guilt or innocence- that is for the finder of fact. Instead, they either affirm or order new trials based on technical or legal problems with the underlying case. So is the media reporting this incorrectly or does each level of the appeals process have some sort of bizarre finder of fact power? Is each successive appeal considered by the court de novo? If it was a retrial, did the appeals court find a technical error or can they weight the evidence?

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Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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is a serious thing, if you do not care, patience, but there are people, I for one, which involves, first, because is dead a poor innocent girl, second, because those who killed her have dedicated to her a movie, third, because it seems that our legal system is the third world, not even when the U.S. is an example of perfection.
If I had the means to do so, I'd take that son of a bitch, and I would bring at force in Italy,or if will serve the sentence in the United States, I hope he being raped by guards and beaten by other inmates.

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This is what i responded with in the GD thread, to be honest i'm confused why this is in the OC section confused .


I have to say Furio that i'm not biased in the slightest regarding this case. If i was it'd most likely be against Knox since it was a British girl murdered, but quite simply the evidence isn't there. I don't buy into these PR campaigns that portray Knox as an angel, and i certainly don't think Italy is a 3rd world country. Thisis from wikipedia, According to the prosecution's reconstruction, Knox had attacked Kercher, repeatedly banged her head against a wall, forcefully held her face, tried to remove her clothes, cut her with a knife, inflicted the fatal stab wound, and then took her two mobile phones and faked a burglary.[146] Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in the bedroom, his DNA was found on Kercher and her clothing, and his skin cells were inside her body. Guede's DNA mixed with Kercher's was in bloodstains on the inside of her shoulder bag.[147] No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito -

It's crazy that Knox and Sollecito were so thorough yet Guede left all of the incriminating evidence related to him there. The reconstruction is ridiculous. I can't say without a doubt that she's not guilty, but i also don't believe there's enough evidence for her to be convicted.

I pretty much agree with whats been said here, if she's guilty then she should be extradited and spend the rest of her days in a cell. I don't believe there's enough evidence to convit her though, there was alot of unanswered questions and suspicious activity from her leading up to the original trial, but i'm still confused what they believe they have on her.

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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
I didn't follow the case too closely so i really don't know what they had on her and the details of the case.

But if she did it...fuck her..you guys can have her. As long as theres evidence to back up the conviction.


They actually have very little on her, in terms of evidence. However, Knox continually changed her alibi, had conflicting stories with her ex boyfriend, made a confession under duress- which was later recanted, she falsely accused her boss of committing the murder, admitted to being under the influence of drugs and booze during the night in question, turned off her cell phone, and there's still confusion as to her whereabouts during the night. Plus, there's debate over whether the knife obtained from her ex boyfriend's house was really the murder weapon, and the dna evidence was supposedly tainted. Some say the media circus surrounding the case made it impossible for her to receive a fair trial.

While she cannot prove that she was not involved, the authorities seemingly cannot prove that she was involved, nor even had a motive. The theory of a group sex game gone bad is a bit of a stretch. Which brings us to the issue of presumed innocence until proven guilty, or vice versa?

This is a unique site as we have members in the US, UK, and Italy. Supposedly, the public perception about her guilt differs in these countries, so I'm interested in how she has been portrayed in the UK and Italy.


All 3 countries medias have handled all of this poorly imo, as usual rolleyes . When it just happened it was never out of the papers, the British media pretty much ran with the sex game theory as if it was fact. The Majority of the attention was on Knox, Sollecitto was only really mentioned because he was her boyfriend and Guede who most of the evidence points towards was barely mentioned. As expected they pretty much portrayed her as a demon-whore lol

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Camarel i remember reading about some sex angle to the case. What were they having an orgy or something?

Shit maybe got out of hand? I did read some crazy stuff but i have no idea whats true or not.

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Camarel i remember reading about some sex angle to the case. What were they having an orgy or something?

Shit maybe got out of hand? I did read some crazy stuff but i have no idea whats true or not.



The theory is that Knox and Sollecito tried to force Kercher to play some sort of sex game, and that after she resisted Knox stabbed her. There is no evidence at all that this happened, it's just a theory and apparent motive that the prosecutors have threw out. I believe it was most likely that the drifter Rudy Guede tried to rape her and after resistance murdered her, here's a short article that summarizes the theory - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/l...th-Kercher.html

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Here in Britain the media has vilified Knox but our media is arguably the worlds biggest stirrer.

I think the USA may extradite her simply to keep the peace because if they refuse the next time the USA requests extradition from another country they may get rebuffed

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Originally Posted By: GaryH
Here in Britain the media has vilified Knox but our media is arguably the worlds biggest stirrer.

I think the USA may extradite her simply to keep the peace because if they refuse the next time the USA requests extradition from another country they may get rebuffed


We already are getting rebuffed by North Korea. Russia isn't handing over Plowden to us either and that guy leaked national secrets.

Italy is in a turmoil with its economy so they aren't exactly in the position to demand us to hand her over.


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There'll be no extradition.

Compare this case to that of Rosario Gambino. It took 8years to extradite his ass back to Italy and he was convicted of a $1.5 BILLION HEROIN pipeline and WASNT even a citizen!

For a contentious murder case for a young American girl? No chance.

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Camarel i remember reading about some sex angle to the case. What were they having an orgy or something?

Shit maybe got out of hand? I did read some crazy stuff but i have no idea whats true or not.



Pun intended? lol

Another theory is that Amanda and the murder victim had been arguing about cleanliness. Then, on that fateful night, Amanda returns home to find some poop floating in an unflushed toilet- courtesy of Kercher's date, Rudy Guede. Because of this, Amanda snaps and goes into a violent rage....


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they need to send this crazy bitch back to where she likes to kill people

this demented tramp went to Italy, killed and innocent little girl then runs home

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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
they need to send this crazy bitch back to where she likes to kill people

this demented tramp went to Italy, killed and innocent little girl then runs home


Have you read this cook? According to the prosecution's reconstruction, Knox had attacked Kercher, repeatedly banged her head against a wall, forcefully held her face, tried to remove her clothes, cut her with a knife, inflicted the fatal stab wound, and then took her two mobile phones and faked a burglary.[146] Guede's shoe prints, fingerprints, and DNA were found in the bedroom, his DNA was found on Kercher and her clothing, and his skin cells were inside her body. Guede's DNA mixed with Kercher's was in bloodstains on the inside of her shoulder bag.[147] No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito -

There's virtually no evidence connecting her to the crime. What makes you so sure of her guilt?

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Originally Posted By: Camarel
No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito - [/b]



The only way a normal person could have pulled that off is if she had experience in that area of eliminating all DNA. I doubt she had anything to do with it.

but if she did, maybe she knew a made guy that knew how to clean up? I mean we are talking about Italy..


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Originally Posted By: LaLouisiane
Originally Posted By: Camarel
No shoe prints, clothing fibers, hairs, fingerprints, skin cells or DNA of Knox were found on Kercher or in the room. The prosecution alleged that all forensic traces in the bedroom which incriminated Knox had been wiped away by her and Sollecito - [/b]



The only way a normal person could have pulled that off is if she had experience in that area of eliminating all DNA. I doubt she had anything to do with it.

but if she did, maybe she knew a made guy that knew how to clean up? I mean we are talking about Italy..


The full case is ridiculous. If her and Sollecito were involved and they'd got rid of the evidence, surely they would have done the same for Guede so he wouldn't give them up.

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Why is this in the OC section. Is she a secretly made Lucchese member or something? tongue


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LaLouisiane the fact that Italy's economy in turmoilnot isn't a good reason because the US and Italy signed an extradition treaty in 1983, now unless the United States consider themselves superior and want to look from top to bottom.
Given that the traits are based on an equal position, and since we aren't a third world country, don't want to extradite him, ok then tell us why ,and if consider barbaric our prisons, for me alright, she can also serve the sentence in america, however, is Amanda Knox was sentenced to 28 years and 6 mounth in prison and not to life.

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Furio, I'm just curious...in Italy, what is the reaction towards Amanda? Innocent or guilty? Is she receiving the bulk of the media attention in Italy, or is the local guy, Sollecito, getting more press?


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Little Man must know that the Americans have always been seen as arrogant and bullies, and especially after the case Cermis the Calipari Case and the Abu Omar case we have the impression that Americans can do anything with impunity.
So when Knox and Sollecito were "acquitted" (a process in which the Supreme Court said that needs to be redone because illegitimate), there were a lot of controversy, and especially after it was learned that Amanda was not only seen as a heroine in the States, but they had also dedicated a movie, well, I tend to lean toward guilty, and many think that the United States will not grant extradition because it think are superior and it consider a B series country.
As to say that the beautiful Yankee girl, killed with impunity, going to hide by the Uncle Sam, and that the poor fool Italian remained alone with the black to take the faults, that however,they have. That's the truth.

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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Little Man must know that the Americans have always been seen as arrogant and bullies, and especially after the case Cermis the Calipari Case and the Abu Omar case we have the impression that Americans can do anything with impunity.
So when Knox and Sollecito were "acquitted" (a process in which the Supreme Court said that needs to be redone because illegitimate), there were a lot of controversy, and especially after it was learned that Amanda was not only seen as a heroine in the States, but they had also dedicated a movie, well, I tend to lean toward guilty, and many think that the United States will not grant extradition because it think are superior and it consider a B series country.
As to say that the beautiful Yankee girl, killed with impunity, going to hide by the Uncle Sam, and that the poor fool Italian remained alone with the black to take the faults, that however,they have. That's the truth.


What makes you lean toward guilty? There's next to no evidence against her. If she's guilty then i completely agree, she should be extradited and jailed. I'm not convinced of either her or Sollecito's guilt though, and i'm confused why she has been found guilty twice by the Italian courts. I'd also suggest at least hearing whether she is extradited or not, something there's no indication yet whether it will or won't happen, before you start your anti-american rants.

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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
and especially after it was learned that Amanda was not only seen as a heroine in the States, but they had also dedicated a movie

@Furio

I already told you the other day that I'm pretty much in agreement with you. If she did it, Italy can have her and lock her away until she's a hundred years old for all I care. But you're making WAAAAAAAY too much out of the movie.

You have to understand one thing about the American media culture today: Every nitwit that attains fifteen minutes of fame ends up with a Lifetime movie or a reality show. Those bloodsucking leeches in Hollywood will put anything on television that attracts ratings. It has absolutely nothing to do with with misguided patriotism. If anything, Hollywood is filled with some of the most unpatriotic people you'll ever meet.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
and especially after it was learned that Amanda was not only seen as a heroine in the States, but they had also dedicated a movie

@Furio

I already told you the other day that I'm pretty much in agreement with you. If she did it, Italy can have her and lock her away until she's a hundred years old for all I care. But you're making WAAAAAAAY too much out of the movie.

You have to understand one thing about the American media culture today: Every nitwit that attains fifteen minutes of fame ends up with a Lifetime movie or a reality show. Those bloodsucking leeches in Hollywood will put anything on television that attracts ratings. It has absolutely nothing to do with with misguided patriotism. If anything, Hollywood is filled with some of the most unpatriotic people you'll ever meet.


Well said PB. It's a random tv movie - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1783413/ .

I assure you, even though i'm not American i can say that most Americans most likely haven't heard of her, and the rest are probably evenly split between her being guilty and innocent. The 2 countries who care so much about this case are clearly the UK and Italy, and both have convicted Knox and Sollecito on next to no evidence.

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