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Joe Massino ? #747818
11/09/13 08:28 PM
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Is "Big" Joey Massino out of prison ? Also what about Sal Vitale ?

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747819
11/09/13 09:45 PM
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Yes theyre both released and in the wpp. Vitale got out in 2010 and massino a couple of months ago.

Last edited by Dellacroce; 11/09/13 09:49 PM.

"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

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Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747831
11/10/13 03:00 AM
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Both rats are free.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747832
11/10/13 03:55 AM
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I hate to go against the "Code of Silence" on here. But I don't blame Joe Massino for ratting. Stand up for what? To come up to nothing!

I've came across this board a lot within the past few years with all the take fbi takedowns.

To any of the younger guys on here keep your nose clean. I missed the best years of my life while I was in the can. I wish I could of been there for my son. I came home and he wasn't there. There's only one or two places he could be. I think most of you could figure that one out yourself. That's enough for now.

God Bless


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Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Junior111] #747846
11/10/13 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: Junior111
I hate to go against the "Code of Silence" on here. But I don't blame Joe Massino for ratting. Stand up for what? To come up to nothing!

I've came across this board a lot within the past few years with all the take fbi takedowns.

To any of the younger guys on here keep your nose clean. I missed the best years of my life while I was in the can. I wish I could of been there for my son. I came home and he wasn't there. There's only one or two places he could be. I think most of you could figure that one out yourself. That's enough for now.

God Bless


Its not about ratting. This guy was one of the biggest criminals of the past 50 years. he was also a bigtime murderer so he shouldnt be free at all

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: JCrusher] #747853
11/10/13 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Originally Posted By: Junior111
I hate to go against the "Code of Silence" on here. But I don't blame Joe Massino for ratting. Stand up for what? To come up to nothing!

I've came across this board a lot within the past few years with all the take fbi takedowns.

To any of the younger guys on here keep your nose clean. I missed the best years of my life while I was in the can. I wish I could of been there for my son. I came home and he wasn't there. There's only one or two places he could be. I think most of you could figure that one out yourself. That's enough for now.

God Bless


Its not about ratting. This guy was one of the biggest criminals of the past 50 years. he was also a bigtime murderer so he shouldnt be free at all
I agree JC, all the guy was promised was to not get the death penalty and for his wife and mother to keep their houses and thats all he should've gotten. But of course the feds need to show that if you cooperate they will "go to bat for you".


"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

-Jordan Belfort
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Dellacroce] #747857
11/10/13 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Originally Posted By: Junior111
I hate to go against the "Code of Silence" on here. But I don't blame Joe Massino for ratting. Stand up for what? To come up to nothing!

I've came across this board a lot within the past few years with all the take fbi takedowns.

To any of the younger guys on here keep your nose clean. I missed the best years of my life while I was in the can. I wish I could of been there for my son. I came home and he wasn't there. There's only one or two places he could be. I think most of you could figure that one out yourself. That's enough for now.

God Bless


Its not about ratting. This guy was one of the biggest criminals of the past 50 years. he was also a bigtime murderer so he shouldnt be free at all
I agree JC, all the guy was promised was to not get the death penalty and for his wife and mother to keep their houses and thats all he should've gotten. But of course the feds need to show that if you cooperate they will "go to bat for you".


The fed should not cut deal with the boss and underboss two rat giving the orders.


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747860
11/10/13 12:45 PM
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So it pays to be a rat !

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747924
11/10/13 09:55 PM
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Shit the Cw/informant was getting paid 10,000 a month and he has a record going back before I was born . So does it pay to be a rat hell yea but I have rules, parameters character pride and a family name to keep clean so ratting is not even an option in my household


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747925
11/10/13 10:30 PM
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Just to confirm, Massino helped to put only Vinny Gorgeous in jail.

Now he's out. Good deal for Big Joey.


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: LittleMan] #747929
11/10/13 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Just to confirm, Massino helped to put only Vinny Gorgeous in jail.

Now he's out. Good deal for Big Joey.


I think the info he provided also helped to get vito rizzuto to plead guilty for his role in the three capos murder. But besides Vinny Gorgeous, the only other trial Massino has testified at was at Genevese capo Anthony Romanellos trial who was acquitted of his charges.


"Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty. I've been a poor man, and I've been a rich man. And I choose rich every fucking time."

-Jordan Belfort
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #747959
11/11/13 10:37 AM
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Massino and Vitale both should die in prison. Nuff said.

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Joerusso] #747961
11/11/13 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Shit the Cw/informant was getting paid 10,000 a month and he has a record going back before I was born . So does it pay to be a rat hell yea but I have rules, parameters character pride and a family name to keep clean so ratting is not even an option in my household


what informant>? in massinos case?

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Dellacroce] #747989
11/11/13 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Just to confirm, Massino helped to put only Vinny Gorgeous in jail.

Now he's out. Good deal for Big Joey.


I think the info he provided also helped to get vito rizzuto to plead guilty for his role in the three capos murder. But besides Vinny Gorgeous, the only other trial Massino has testified at was at Genevese capo Anthony Romanellos trial who was acquitted of his charges.


Yes I am almost certain he testified at Vito's trial. I think Sal might have too, but don't hold me to that. Vito was smart to plead guilty, he was a goner for sure if he kept fighting it.

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #748040
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When they have someone who is really too dangerous to go back out on the street, maybe they could reward the rats with something other than releasing them such as more/longer visitations, more phone time Etc. Who knows// I'm no criminologist, just think it's wrong for Massino to be back out. By the way, has he been seen by anyone ???

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Dellacroce] #748071
11/12/13 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
I agree JC, all the guy was promised was to not get the death penalty and for his wife and mother to keep their houses and thats all he should've gotten. But of course the feds need to show that if you cooperate they will "go to bat for you".


This is what I also thought.

Anyone know how he went from trying to avoid the death penalty to skating free?


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: southend] #748072
11/12/13 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: southend
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Shit the Cw/informant was getting paid 10,000 a month and he has a record going back before I was born . So does it pay to be a rat hell yea but I have rules, parameters character pride and a family name to keep clean so ratting is not even an option in my household


what informant>? in massinos case?

No the informant in my case ... he had a audio video a fuckin camera in his car, placed a bug in a house he was going the whole nine and the crazy shit southend my wife seen him at a gas station the motherfucker asked her to pump the gas .. You talking about balls ...In my opinion the only deal there is , is a cop out if you red handed facing 20 mando and they offer you 6/7 that's a deal, facing


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #748073
11/12/13 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: southend
Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Shit the Cw/informant was getting paid 10,000 a month and he has a record going back before I was born . So does it pay to be a rat hell yea but I have rules, parameters character pride and a family name to keep clean so ratting is not even an option in my household


what informant>? in massinos case?

No the informant in my case ... he had a audio video a fuckin camera in his car, placed a bug in a house he was going the whole nine and the crazy shit southend my wife seen him at a gas station the motherfucker asked her to pump the gas .. You talking about balls ...In my opinion the only deal there is , is a cop out if you red handed facing 20 mando and they offer you 6/7 that's a deal, facing 5 they want 18 months that's a ok but to rat cooperate make proffers that's a big NO NO and theres no if's, ands or buts about that


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #748119
11/12/13 10:25 AM
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I'm not a mafia glamorizer although I do enjoy reading about their lives. That said, the fact that Massino and Vitale are out free when their involvement equaled if not surpassed the people they put away is atrocious. The fact that he ratted makes him the biggest hypocrite; he would have sentenced to death those that did what he did. There is no "killer lite" tag; his cooperation should get him life imprisonment, not the death penalty. Just my two cents.

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Anyway, what was the real reason to let him go? They haven't sentenced him to death, therefore they have maintained their part of the bargain, what was the point of doing him further favors?


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Dwalin2011] #748171
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Anyway, what was the real reason to let him go? They haven't sentenced him to death, therefore they have maintained their part of the bargain, what was the point of doing him further favors?


My understanding was they figured he was dying soon anyway.

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: Lenin_and_McCarthy] #748176
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Originally Posted By: Lenin_and_McCarthy
Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Anyway, what was the real reason to let him go? They haven't sentenced him to death, therefore they have maintained their part of the bargain, what was the point of doing him further favors?


My understanding was they figured he was dying soon anyway.
Dying??? from what? I hadn't heard of any disease other than diabetes which usually isn't fatal

Re: Joe Massino ? [Re: MobMan] #748182
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when your that fat and old your kidneys go from diabetes.


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