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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #745660
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Sunday: Giants at Eagles. Oh boy. Two of the NFC duds. As a Giant fan I keep hoping for a game where they put it all together. If they knock out Vick early - he is on a tender hamstring - it could be sharks in the water with Matt Barkley. I feel a bit sorry for the Eagles. They have never been able to rise to the top - close. A few years back when Westbrook was in his prime they had a shot, but he was hurt for the Superbowl. That year was their best shot, but they missed him.

Is Kansas City for real?


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: LittleMan] #745682
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Forbes recently published a list of the most disliked players in the NFL.

Here’s the rundown:

1. Eagles quarterback Michael Vick
2. Chargers linebacker Manti Te'o
3. Detroit defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh
4. Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger
5. Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez


Of course, on that list only Vick is a felon. So, what do people have against Sanchez?


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #745705
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Forbes recently published a list of the most disliked players in the NFL.

Here’s the rundown:

1. Eagles quarterback Michael Vick
2. Chargers linebacker Manti Te'o
3. Detroit defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh
4. Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger
5. Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez


Of course, on that list only Vick is a felon. So, what do people have against Sanchez?


A list like this coming from Forbes? If it came from Sports Illustrated would it have been different? Sanchez isn't even on the roster, is he?


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: MaryCas] #745725
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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: LittleMan
Forbes recently published a list of the most disliked players in the NFL.

Here’s the rundown:

1. Eagles quarterback Michael Vick
2. Chargers linebacker Manti Te'o
3. Detroit defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh
4. Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger
5. Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez


Of course, on that list only Vick is a felon. So, what do people have against Sanchez?


A list like this coming from Forbes? If it came from Sports Illustrated would it have been different? Sanchez isn't even on the roster, is he?


You might as well put all of the USC quarterbacks on the list: Sanchez, Leinart, Cassel, Palmer have all failed miserably and Barkley only paid one quarter, but managed 3 interceptions plus one called back by penalty.

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Originally Posted By: olivant


Of course, on that list only Vick is a felon. So, what do people have against Sanchez?


Sanchez is definitely deserving to be on the top 5. The other players committed some kind of crime or hoax, or from dirty play. And their backlash comes from fans from other teams.

The anger towards Sanchez is nearly entirely from his own Jets fans. Basically, after a poor season, the former GM signed him to a lucrative extension and guaranteed him a chunk of his money. He did this because Sanchez had his feelings hurt when the Jets wooed Peyton Manning in the offseason.

Sanchez is guaranteed nearly $20 million from '12 to '13, which is the only reason he's still on the roster. The media boldly says that Sanchez will be cut after this season. For anyone else, the media would report that the player "might" be released, or have his contract restructured. That's how much of a foregone conclusion it is for Sanchez to be gone.

Now that the GM has been fired, the anger has been directed towards Sanchez. There was also anger directed towards Rex Ryan, in part, for his bromance with Sanchez. Do you know that Coach Ryan has a sexy woman wearing Sanchez's #6 jersey tattooed on his arm? Seriously.


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #746013
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I had the good fortune to attend the Lions-Cowboys game yesterday at Ford Field. While I don't live in Michigan, a friend of mine and I made the 2.5 hour drive and enjoyed the game. I have liked the Cowboys since I was little, but I had no real rooting interest.

It was a fairly pedestrian game until the start of the 4th quarter. Dallas was winning, but it was more the result of poor Detroit play and benefiting from 4 Lions turnovers. Then the game just exploded. Calvin Johnson put on one of the most incredible performances I have ever seen. At first I thought it was a misprint, but the stat line read 12 catches for 329 yards receiving.

As a disinterested observer, Lions fans are much like my hometown Browns fans. They seem to be waiting for the other shoe to drop and for the Lions to implode. Over the years, the Lions have given their fans many instances to feel this way. But yesterday, the game wasn't decided until the last tick on the clock. The Cowboys went up by 10 with a little less than 7:00 minutes to play. I would say that 1/3 of the stadium emptied at that point. But the Lions came back on the next drive to cut the lead to 3 again. With about 1:30 to play, Detroit failed to convert on 4th down and we left our seats to head to the car. We had a long walk within the stadium and heard some cheers, so we poked our heads in to see what was happening. The place erupted as if the Lions had just won the Super Bowl.

It was pure luck, but this was the first NFL game that I have attended in over 10 years. But we happened to pick one of the most exciting finishes in recent memory.

Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #746027
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The announcers (I believe it was Billick), basically declared the game over.

The Cowboys' holding penalty on 3rd down was what gave the Lions enough time to drive down the field. Unbelievable finish.


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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When I heard about the Dolphins' Richie Incognito, I was thinking that he could get a job collecting debts for one of the 5 families. He seems to be the ultimate bully.


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
Re: NFL 2013 [Re: LittleMan] #747212
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
When I heard about the Dolphins' Richie Incognito, I was thinking that he could get a job collecting debts for one of the 5 families. He seems to be the ultimate bully.


This has the potential to be an interesting court case. I would imagine some lawyers are anxious to get involved with Jonathan Martin, particularly if he decides to sue the NFL, the Dolphins, and/or Incognito. The last thing the NFL wants is a lawsuit against its multi-billion dollar empire, particularly if there proves to be evidence of covering up similar incidents.

When I first heard about Martin walking out of the Dolphins facility last week, my thought was that he just was a crybaby. Now, after hearing the voicemail he received from Incognito and the allegations that this was ongoing abuse, I think Martin did the right thing.

Credit should be given to Martin for not coming back with a gun or a knife. The NFL already has one player under investigation for 1st degree murder. For Martin to not violently respond after being told "I'm going to kill you" is a testament to Martin's maturity.

While I have not been in an NFL locker room, Incognito clearly crossed the line by dropping an extremely offensive racial slur and then threatening to kill Martin. Whether it was a joke or not is not the point. Incognito was obviously seeing how far he could push Martin and had already gone quite far based upon what has been reported. It seems likely that more information will be released in the comings days and weeks.

Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #747216
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Kly, what potential is there for criminal prosecution?


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #747219
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Well said, goombah. The abuse delivered by Incognito appears to be viciously constant. Even after being let go by the Dolphins at least for the moment, he has directed violent tweets at the ESPN reporter, who broke the story.

The NFL doesn't need the Richie Incognito mentality to tarnish its brand.

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How about making him pay $15000 for Incognito's trip to Vegas....and Martin didn't even go.

Shows that no matter how big and strong someone is, there's still a bully out there. Before this story broke, I incorrectly thought that NFL linemen didn't really have to worry about this stuff.

Next and final stop for the released Incognito.....Oakland Raiders?


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: LittleMan] #747911
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Right now the Colts have to feel like they were fleeced into paying a first rounder for Trent Richardson's 3 yds p/carry. I had serious questions about the Browns front office when this move was made. But they deserve credit for unloading a player who they felt was not going to contribute. And Richardson has proven the Browns correct in being a colossal disappointment after the trade. He is shaping up to be a big bust.

Re: NFL 2013 [Re: LittleMan] #749088
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Originally Posted By: LittleMan
How about making him pay $15000 for Incognito's trip to Vegas....and Martin didn't even go.

Shows that no matter how big and strong someone is, there's still a bully out there. Before this story broke, I incorrectly thought that NFL linemen didn't really have to worry about this stuff.

Next and final stop for the released Incognito.....Oakland Raiders?


OHHH YAY we talking about my DOLPHINS on BB!!!!! Crap nevermind....

lol they gotta revamp the entire offense. It will be a long 3-5 years in Miami, not to mention that it has been a decade since we were somewhat relevant.

Ireland-Gotta Go
Philibin-Gotta Go
O-line in no particular order (minus Mckennie)-Gotta Go
Running backs- Gotta Go

Am I getting my drift across? in Layman's terms: WE BAD


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: LaLouisiane] #749103
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My hopes for the Browns are crushed once again. To bad Hoyer gut hurt.


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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #749263
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I'm not a Patriot fan, and nor am I a fan of Tom Brady, but they got a raw deal Monday night on the final play of the game. The interference clearly occurred prior to the interceptionand prevented Gronkowski from making a play on the ball.

Also, New Orleans benefited on a poor penalty call when Brees was sacked and fumbled in the fourth quarter. Although I was rooting for the Saints, I thought the call was silly.

Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #749282
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WE NEED CYBORG REFEREES!


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How about them Eagles....FIRST PLACE! A few weeks ago i was ready to write off this season but Foles is finally looking like a starting QB. Hope it lasts!

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I thought the call on Monday night was correct, but I also think that Carolina played an exceptional game and deserved to win. People forget how good that football game was until that last play. Hats off to the Panthers


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Tom Brady introduced additional exhibits last night in establishing his superiority over Peyton Manning throughout their careers.

Brady was Joe Montana in the second half of last night's game. While it is difficult, if not impossible, to determine a player's greatness until the career is over and you have the benefit of time to gain a vivid perspective, Brady is in that Montana level. Joe was much faster, but Brady has a stronger arm.

I have to credit Belichick for a ballsy decision in kicking off to Denver to begin overtime. Few coaches would volunteeringly hand the ball to Peyton Manning in OT, knowing that a TD ends it.

I think Denver should hope that John Fox gets better by the playoffs. Jack DelRio never impressed me as a coach. He seemed unprepared to handle the team with a 24 point lead. He needed a little more imagination.

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The punt rule needs to be changed. The ball inadvertently hitting someone should not result in a change of possession.

However, Kly you are right about Brady. Excellente!


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Oli and Kly.....can the Steel Ones make a run? Has Big Ben found the mojo? What is a fans perspective?


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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Oli and Kly.....can the Steel Ones make a run? Has Big Ben found the mojo? What is a fans perspective?


It's still a tough road ahead, but the Steelers have been playing much better. They still have some problems, but Ben hasn't been one of them. They have a respectable running game with the rookie Leveon Bell, who missed the first 4 games.

They have to win in Baltimore tomorrow. The loser of the game will likely be excluded from the playoffs. The games with the Ravens are always hard fought, and have provided the best football in the NFL over the past ten years. The games are almost always decided by three points. IO'm hoping for a Steeler win as they have had some good days in Baltimore.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Oli and Kly.....can the Steel Ones make a run? Has Big Ben found the mojo? What is a fans perspective?


It's still a tough road ahead, but the Steelers have been playing much better. They still have some problems, but Ben hasn't been one of them. They have a respectable running game with the rookie Leveon Bell, who missed the first 4 games.

They have to win in Baltimore tomorrow. The loser of the game will likely be excluded from the playoffs. The games with the Ravens are always hard fought, and have provided the best football in the NFL over the past ten years. The games are almost always decided by three points. IO'm hoping for a Steeler win as they have had some good days in Baltimore.


I concur. For the first time this season I have confidence in them. Despite everything, Ben is on track to break his yardage record and he'll continue that against the Ravens.


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Eagles... 4 IN A ROW!!

Looks like Foles is the man now....Vick better get used to sitting on the bench if Foles can keep this going.

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo

Eagles... 4 IN A ROW!!

Looks like Foles is the man now....Vick better get used to sitting on the bench if Foles can keep this going.


They're clicking. The interesting thing is that the eagle offense will get even better under Chip Kelly. There'll be some roadblocks along the way, but the team is still getting used to the system. The turnaround is remarkable.

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Tomlin, oh no! What did you do Mike? He BLUNDERED! Has he been hanging around with Bill "the Cheater" Belichicken? Can you spell I-N-T-G-R-E-T-E-E? What is this sport coming to? Next there will be players taking steroids. What a shame. Bring on Rugby...Yogi don't you agree?


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Rugby is a fine sport MC, however ex players tend to end up with lots of missing teeth, cauliflower ears, flat noses and more scar tissue than Rocky Balboa!!! It's not for the faint hearted.


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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
Rugby is a fine sport MC, however ex players tend to end up with lots of missing teeth, cauliflower ears, flat noses and more scar tissue than Rocky Balboa!!! It's not for the faint hearted.


Yes, but they are manly men, doing manly things with other men in a manly way. What are they doing in bottom of that scrum pile? sick


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