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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: casertassquare] #735220
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damnnn.... good post, surprised your from providence wit hlocal knowledge like that.. the paddock is under new ownership.. and santarpios is by far the best around... 90 percent of what you said about the somerville jionts is true... my mother used to work as a wiatress in one of th ejionts u mentioned... haha dont want to post too much more cause i used to drink at some of the bars you mentioned soo let sleave it at that.

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735234
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thats fucking bullshit!!!! only 3? tell that to kevin mcdonald aka "andre the giant" and michael c. they both did serious time in allenwood and the camp later. both STAND UP GUYS!!!!! shanghied by that rat fuck whitey. i'll tell anyone who'll listen... put whitey and stevey on the duck boat, hang em and drive around boston to let people pelt those 2 scumbags ala mussolini in the nuts!!!!


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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: vegasskip] #735238
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vegasskip, johnston is were mobsters go to retire haha. blackjack is there. 3 years ago we put my beloved grandmother in a "retirment community" ,whos her roomate? the wife of a gangster and her son who was clipped back in the 90's. can't help but laugh. i mean rhode island right?


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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: casertassquare] #735241
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casertassquare, do you mean that all the mobsters go and retire at caserta pizza up the hill

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735275
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Player....I do not remember a boxer. It was over 20 years ago when I last went to his home. What I remember was that the door/stairwell to the basement via the inside of the home had a locked metal gate on it. Never saw that in a home before! i remember one Christmas when the Saint and his son made homemade red wine and during the party kept filling my glass with it over and over again....and not to knock the guy but it was wretched!

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: vegasskip] #735278
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vegasskip, when i went to saint's house i don't ever rember him making home made wine. so you don't know if he had any dogs

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735297
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Yea I grew up on the paddock pizza, my uncle that I mentioned owned a bar with Paul Walker, him and wakely were real good friends. His kid was a joke tho. Buddy ur trying to tell me Barry, angelesco and that.crew took over somervilles turf in the 90s then your wrong cause in the 90s you had.fat Al, Kevin Hardy, Niel Mazza, Gus Sidote, and that crew that hung out at.the Moose Club. And in the 2000s Somerville had guys that im not gonna mention. You sound like a fucking rat lic, like that guy.vinnygorgeous that use to post on the boston threads. I must know u who u r if u use to be so involved in this shit. Im a joke, pm me ur name then

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735310
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Player....I do not recall any dogs off the top of my head. Being that it was a party I'm sure they were put away if there were any. You are lucky you did not have to taste that wine...really terrible! But he was a good host and proud of that wine.

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735315
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vegasskip, i think you have the wrong guy when i was there i remember there where dogs. vegasskip how many kids did he have?

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735352
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And I never said the WHG was strong in the 90s, all that was left was.the guys.from the Moose Club and by then the hill was done, late 90s and 2000s Somerville, had independent crews doing shit, and Angelesco and his guys weren't shaking these guys down. Richie Sperlinga was.considered to be one of the few Winter Hill guys that may have been doings things before.he died and him and Howie were very close. And the independent crews are still around. Your obviously an older guy with the info your posting.

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #735384
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Player.....I'm glad you remember dogs....I don't! I also know whose home I was at. His son was there and the sons gf/wife. I do not know how many other kids he has. The couple of visits were holiday get togethers...either XMAas Eve or New Years Eve. Why the hell would I make this up?

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #736022
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Originally Posted By: lic
SOUTHEND- did you know about the beavs first bid... i stated it before but its a good story... a guy came to the pool barry was working at as a lifeguard and he siad barry couldnt sell drugs in medford or malden anymore, the guy was welding a knife barry took the knife from him and tabbed him whith his own blade.... And to be honest guys like cahill, richard gillis and richard devlin were more convicts than gangsters those dudes spent most of there young lifes in walpole state prison.


I saw the post, but I wasn't aware Anthony had done a state bid back in the day. I thought he did like a year in Billerica house for a gun charge. The story u describe sure sounds like a typical Anthony story though. About Cahill and Devlin/Gillis, your probably right, there's a lot of guys like that from and around Boston especially Charlestown,Malden,Eastie,Somerville,Medford. But they are useful and lotta the time trustworthy because they aren't worried about going back to the joint and seeing the fellas be it state or federal, the federal system is packed with boston guys

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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #739375
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I just heard Tory Marino is out and shanked someone recently?.....he used to bang that smoking blonde Baxter girl from meffa who worked at worlds gym Somerville years back.
What was the name of that kid that got killed in front of mike mochas house back in 94 or 95. BA and AB were in on that too

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #739397
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def most standup people you will find in any prison mci mass are from BOS area, i know in fed the fellas all get to form alliances to grow the oc on the out but in walpole us boston guys,ctown,southie sit and eat, not like when we was kids fighting, i like lics posts and he doesnt seem suspect at all ville, id check yaself before you speak,he may be closer than you realize


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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #739399
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Marino and scarpelli are out and have been for a bit.....shanked someone????


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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: paddy78] #739498
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Why should i check myself before i speak paddy? Please tell me. He may be closer then i think. What are you trying to say pal? Your from southie, so you agree with Lic, when he stated that the Hogans were sucking dick in federal prison. Dont come at me like that, we are on the fucking internet dickhead. You havent posted one legit thing on here. You post stupid comments that arent funny and whatever facts you have tried to post, have been bollshit and you dont even know what ur talking about. So i suggest you check yourself before you speak. Im right here in Somerville and Charlestown brother.

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: Meffa47] #739504
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Originally Posted By: Meffa47
I just heard Tory Marino is out and shanked someone recently?.....he used to bang that smoking blonde Baxter girl from meffa who worked at worlds gym Somerville years back.
What was the name of that kid that got killed in front of mike mochas house back in 94 or 95. BA and AB were in on that too


Macarelli

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #739526
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your right i dont post or dry snitch on the internet i dont inform i dont tell, i read and learn,what not to do,your a townie huh? or is it somerville? no i dont agree abt that on the hogans, you clownies wouldnt dare say such things in d street,where i reside,but anyhow yes you should think before you talk abt stuff on here,your calling him out im saying your dry snitching bro! w96173 my number whats yours?


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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: lic] #739529
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im not on here to argue or whatever, but someone dearly close to me name was mentioned in something, that is an open case , so please before we start blabbing, think


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Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: Ville] #739694
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Wait a minute, Georgie Boy Hogan sucked cock? What is his story? Is the Winter Hill Gang even structured or active?

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: IvyLeague] #739703
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Hey Wiseguy,

Francesco Angiulo was alive and still living at 98 Prince ST in the North End as of 2013. I believe he is the only brother still alive.

Re: Not soo wise guys of the 90's-00's Boston [Re: casertassquare] #739705
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Santarpios and Regina's in the North End have excellent pie, Caserta's and Sicilia's does as well on the Hill...but a hidden gem in Massachusetts is Bianchi's Pizza at Revere Beach as well as a place called Carluccio's on the Cape in Dennis. Everybody knows the Cape has shitty pizza for true pizza lovers, but Carluccio's is over the top crazy good, especially the Sicilian style.

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Could anybody give me some info on Richie The Pig, the constant sidekick of Anthony "The Spaccone" DiNunzio? He isn't made, is he? Also, who is the skinny guy with big glasses that worked in the Fresh Cheese Shop when it relocated from Endicott St to Fleet St?

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no georgie boy def did not perform such acts. someone on here said he was a in awe of others in fed prison,he is a great guy to the community,much like pat nee and not out for publicity unlike pat nee.


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jcb alot of questions for a historian,i for one will not comment on current state matters of whg,but was am very close to joe macdonald relative,he was a legend


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Paddy,

All my research has been based on Pittsburgh/Youngstown/Cleveland, where I am from. I love to read about New England, but have no interest in pursuing a project on the Patriarca's. However, I have contacts in Federal LE in Providence and Boston and as LE has said to me that Gambale is not significant, but I've seen plenty of photos of him and fat Anthony together.

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jcb, i dont really care or trust what you say... street knowledge is more vauluble than whatever you get from your police/FBI RAT contacts... HAHA if you and the FBI are soo tight and knowledgable than how come you havent solved any of the 7 seven murders connected to those medford wiseguys AB, BA, GG... haha tell me that one..

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Just so everyone knows that rumor(just a rumor) was started by suffolk county correction officers in the 80's....

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theres two factions, they split in mid 90s after flemmi, whitey were confirmed as rats... not to mention the dozens of other lcn WHG guys who ratted after finding out whitey was a rat... YOU DONT HAVE TO RAT ON SOMEONE JUST CAUSE THEY RATTED ON YOU... DELUCA, MARTARANO, SALEMME just to name a few.

Theres the somerville WHG faction... that operated in the greater boston area(ALL OVER MIDDLESEX, ESSEX, AND NORFOLK COUNTIES)... there is no one man in charge... but guys like niel mazza, joey yerardi( original member) joey mongiello(medford) are respected. then theres drug dealers that are alligned with them like donny johnson etc.. it weld's nowhere near as much power and respect as in the days of howie winter buddy mclean, whitey bulger etc...


THen theres the southie faction( D street boys)- siad to headed by georgie boy and billy hogan( some also say tom cahill and andre the giant play a role) But they almost exclusively operate in 5 five nieghborhoods and citys- SOUTHIE, QUINCY, EVERETT, DORCHESTER AND CAMBRIDGE.. PAUL WALKER AND TOMMY RYAN OF CAMBRIDGE ARE ALLIGNED WITH THESE GUYS.


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Lic,

I'm not investigating anything in New England. The research I have done for several authors was regarding a family member of mine living in CT (Stamford) shaking down unions and heavily involved with loansharking. He is now serving time in prison. There were a few guys from Boston/Providence that came up in my research that were connected to him. I'm not trying to solve any murders, so settle down. I'm from Youngstown, OH originally and I had some of my family members who were heavily involved in the rackets in Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I'm not any kind of a rat, but I do professional research for authors in my spare time. I'm a Nursing Home Administrator in Massachusetts, nothing more. I'm not in the rackets, not connected to anybody in the New England rackets. I agree that some street knowledge is better than some law enforcement knowledge...however, the Federal Government has decimated 18 of the 26 original mafia families thus far. The only families left with a "structured hierarchy" are the 5 in NY, Chicago, Philly, Detroit. Every other mob family in the U.S are on life support...especially New England.

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