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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733815
08/12/13 02:42 AM
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Thank you.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Chicago] #733828
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Originally Posted By: Chicago
Louie, Read it again. He didn't say Solly D. ordered any beating. He didn't say that at all.
He said he was committed to him which means he admires him.


Hey 2 read it again

But just last month, the feds say, Carparelli was contracted by DeLaurentis’ partner “Micky D,” who allegedly paid $10,000 for Carparelli to arrange the beating of a debtor.

“They just want you to catch him and give him a f---ing thorough beating,” Carparelli was allegedly recorded on July 5 telling an underling, who was secretly working with the FBI. “I think the guy wants his legs broke.”


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733830
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10g's for a beating maybe should rehink my career path

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733832
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Shit that better than just being ordered to do it.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Louiebynochi] #733837
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Yeh Fanboy, It says Micky D, DeLaurentis's PARTNER, ordered the beating, NOT DeLaurentis. Go back to school and learn how to read. You would have flunked Law school.

Anyway, even IF DeLaurentis ordered the beating through Micky D, that doesn't have anything to do with Elmwood Park.

Solly D. is with Cicero, not Elmwood Park.

What does this have to do with Lombardo??
What does this have to do with Elmwood Park retreating many years ago, Fanboy??

You are so naïve and uninformed that you didn't know the difference between Joe Andriacchi and Joe Lombardo. LOL.

Last edited by Chicago; 08/12/13 05:18 AM.
Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: lic] #733849
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Originally Posted By: lic
10g's for a beating maybe should rehink my career path


Its a bit much for just a beating. The outfit just seems like some what of an umbrella term thats used for these loosely connected crews and individuals commiting crime now.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Scorsese] #733851
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Originally Posted By: lic
10g's for a beating maybe should rehink my career path


Its a bit much for just a beating. The outfit just seems like some what of an umbrella term thats used for these loosely connected crews and individuals commiting crime now.


That's not what it is though, it is traditional LCN. Carparelli belongs to the Cicero people.

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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Chicago] #733868
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Originally Posted By: Chicago
Carparelli belongs to Cicero. The guy working under him is a soldier/associate who was an F.B.I. informant.

Now you see why Elmwood Park and Grand Ave retreated many years ago? Why would John DiFronzo, Joey Lombardo, Pete DiFronzo, Joe Andriacchi & Marco D'Amico want to be involved in this kind of stuff when they have legitimate businesses and are worth millions?

Once again, The Feds were right on it and knew everything about Carparelli including when he jerked off. There is no future in what he was doing and the guy he trusted working under him was working for the Feds. LOL


lol Chicago you just explained all the facts from this article that anyone who read it could have picked up on.

In another thread you said this exact indictment had nothing to do with the Outfit:
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post729816

Credibility is weakening steadily...

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733876
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: Chicago
Carparelli belongs to Cicero. The guy working under him is a soldier/associate who was an F.B.I. informant.

Now you see why Elmwood Park and Grand Ave retreated many years ago? Why would John DiFronzo, Joey Lombardo, Pete DiFronzo, Joe Andriacchi & Marco D'Amico want to be involved in this kind of stuff when they have legitimate businesses and are worth millions?

Once again, The Feds were right on it and knew everything about Carparelli including when he jerked off. There is no future in what he was doing and the guy he trusted working under him was working for the Feds. LOL


lol Chicago you just explained all the facts from this article that anyone who read it could have picked up on.

In another thread you said this exact indictment had nothing to do with the Outfit:
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post729816

Credibility is weakening steadily...


And what's the end game on that?

That the OUTFIT IS JUST AS STRONG AS EVER!

That THEY'RE STILL OUT THERE!

OK there was one Outfit related extortion bust.

Don't soil the bed there, nitz.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733878
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Who is actually saying the Outfit is as strong as ever? I still can't figure out one person who has ever said that on this forum. The mob (any family) is a shell of its former self.

Anyone in the neighborhood who read that article would recognize the name Iozzo on that indicment. Large family and cousins of the Frattos...they own car dealerships. The elder Vito Iozzo used to run Villa Park before he was kicked out in the late 80s for scandals. They raided a sports bar about 10 years ago in Villa Park (VP Sports Bar?)and he was picked up along with Joe Silva for gambling and coke. He's not a new player, just never identified previously with the Outfit.

Carparelli is related to the Spillone family I believe. Their father was a long-time Outfit guy under Fifi Buccieri. Carparelli's ex wife "Regina" passed away in June. Tough situation for the little boy Paulie Jr.


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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733904
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Originally Posted By: Chicago
Carparelli belongs to Cicero. The guy working under him is a soldier/associate who was an F.B.I. informant.

Now you see why Elmwood Park and Grand Ave retreated many years ago? Why would John DiFronzo, Joey Lombardo, Pete DiFronzo, Joe Andriacchi & Marco D'Amico want to be involved in this kind of stuff when they have legitimate businesses and are worth millions?

Once again, The Feds were right on it and knew everything about Carparelli including when he jerked off. There is no future in what he was doing and the guy he trusted working under him was working for the Feds. LOL




In another thread you said this exact indictment had nothing to do with the Outfit:
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post729816

I was just gonna bring this up. Interesting.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733912
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ChiTown, I gave you personal information on that other thread.
Where's your personal information?
You said the grand ave Crew never retreated. You said they are a full functioning Crew.
Name Made guys in the crew like I've asked you.

Put up/ shut up or admit you were exaggerating.

Last edited by Chicago; 08/12/13 04:13 PM.
Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Chicago] #733921
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Originally Posted By: Chicago
ChiTown, I gave you personal information on that other thread.
Where's your personal information?
You said the grand ave Crew never retreated. You said they are a full functioning Crew.
Name Made guys in the crew like I've asked you.

Put up/ shut up or admit you were exaggerating.


lol you quoted common knowledge on Chuckie English. The guy pry has a wikipedia page. I can also name details about Al Capone. Would you believe me if I said he was my father?

Here is the difference. I know "Chickie" and the Santura family, who if you are really kin to Chuckie, is also kin to you tongue .

What is your sister's real name? What was your mother's maiden name? If you IM me these dtails, I will start a thread and publicly admonish you.

Any son of Chuckie English would have answered my other question instantaneously as Chuckie lived in Lexington next to his best friend, protector and boss, Sam Giancana. They both later moved to the burbs.

The fact you avoided that question shows me you are a liar. Joe Lombardi's nephew or some other sick idiot using the name of a famous mobster and regurgitating the same info over and over.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733925
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If I email you those answers, you will publicly admonish me? Do you know what admonish means?

You're THE ONE who said the Grand Ave Crew was a full functioning Crew and never retreated.

I'm telling you that you're wrong and you are on some other kind of rampage instead of dealing with the issue of your precious Grand Ave Crew. You are avoiding the real subject that caused this argument.

If I answer your questions like I did on some of them just to shut you up, you say they are from Wikepedia. So, if I don't answer an obvious question because it's real obvious, then you get mad.

Where is your personal information I requested?
Who are you to be such an authority on the Grand Ave Crew?

Again, why don't you answer my questions about the Grand Ave Crew instead of making it personal?

I can play the same game as you.

Give me your neighbors name.
What is your sister's name.
What is your mother's maiden name.

I can play the same game.

I'm asking you questions about the Outfit and you want to turn it into something personal because you feel threatened>

Just answer the fucking questions about the made guys you think are made in the Grand Ave Crew and leave all the personal shit out of it.

Last edited by Chicago; 08/12/13 05:22 PM.
Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Chicago] #733932
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Will you two guys stop this prick measuring contest already?? JUST STOP!!!


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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: SC] #733935
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Oh I agree 100%. ChiTown has turned this into something personal which is unneccessay. If we disagree about the Grand Ave Crew, which is what started this whole thing, then let's agree to disagree. This has become wayyy to personal.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733937
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Chicago I like you and your a great addition to this borad, but you are kinda flying of the handle about something or someone that holds no significance in the real world budd. Best advice just leave "them" be.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733941
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He seems to fly off the handle anytime anyone disagrees with him. Just sayin.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733943
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Do u evernotice the type of people that disagree with him, just saying

And sg is right chicago dobt let the trolls bother you, nobody else pays attention to them.

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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733944
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SC I'm going to go on record and say that Chicago is impersonating someone that does not exist. He wants to tell you that he is Bobby English. That is false. I am friends with the family, specifically the daughter Carmaline "Chickie" Santora. Chuckie's wife died in 2008 and I'm sure someone could track down the obituaries to both Laura and Chuckie and show he had no son.

As you will see on this thread, Elmwoodparker aka The Don aka Joe Lombardi's nephew discusses this mythical Bobby English saying that his cousin "knew" him:
http://americannewspost.com/joseph-fosco/2432/difronzo-organized-hit-on-chuckie-english/

SC I could have said this all weeks ago, but I was having fun baiting the guy...if you ban me for that, I'll take it on the chin like a man and come back in a week and go back to being quiet and not posting pics.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733947
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Okay Chitown, I'm going to take the higher road on this and not get upset. What ever you say, Pal.

All of this because I said the Grand Ave Crew wasn't a full functioning Crew. Unbelievable. Ivy was right. You are a very vicious little man.

Last edited by Chicago; 08/12/13 06:44 PM.
Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733949
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lol I don't really take too well to people who use the names of the deceased in vain to further their credibility. Especially on an online forum. Your Uncle should have taught you better.

Figures you are in bed with Ivy. He gets all the winners to follow him.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733950
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
if you ban me for that, I'll take it on the chin like a man and come back in a week and go back to being quiet and not posting pics.

nooooo!!! how will the board as a whole survive without all of the amazing pictures of guys that you took yourself? confused

you and these fucking pictures. like was told to you on the other site, nobody gives a shit about them, and they care even less when you constantly bring them up as some sort of silly bargaining chip. the brits have a word for people like you, a plunker! cool


It's either blue cheese with wings or go fuck yer mudda!
Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733951
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Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733952
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It's actually Laura...and funny enough there is no mention of a son? Chicago is this not your mother? Chuckie's longtime wife?

Laura was a beautiful woman...very close with Clara Cerone.

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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
It's actually Laura

Thanks, i corrected her name in my post.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: Giancarlo] #733954
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Why would Laura be close to Clara Cerone, the wife of Jack Cerone who ordered my father killed in 1985? You are really mixed up. A man can have children with more than one woman.

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: GaryMartin] #733969
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Well after Chuckie was clipped, remember that Jack walked over to Chuckie's house with a pot of flowers for his widow and said "Laura it was me, I ordered it and I'm sorry."

Being Al Capone's son, I can say its fairly common for mob guys to share details of why they were hit with their wives. That conversation usually happens in the morgue.

And continuing to openly associate with the man responsible for your family member's murder? Ha! What is this? The mafia?

Re: Outfit Extortionist [Re: ChiTown] #733970
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Originally Posted By: ChiTown


Being Al Capone's son, I can say its fairly common for mob guys to share details of why they were hit with their wives. That conversation usually happens in the morgue.


Is this some kind of codespeak or are you really claiming to be Sonny Capone? You know he's been dead for ten years right?


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Originally Posted By: Tony_Pro
Originally Posted By: ChiTown


Being Al Capone's son, I can say its fairly common for mob guys to share details of why they were hit with their wives. That conversation usually happens in the morgue.


Is this some kind of codespeak or are you really claiming to be Sonny Capone? You know he's been dead for ten years right?

Tony, ChiTown was just kidding. He wasn't seriously claiming to be Capones son.

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