The boy had to be Ralph's. There's no way he would have paid child support and helped raise the kid otherwise.

And yes, that was a wig. Silvio wore one, too- a bad one.

This is for TheIsland. You're welcome. NSFW-Janice

Not an unnecessary whacking, probably long over due in a way, but I hated the way they killed chris. I thought the car crash thing was really stupid. It also seemed lazy to have adrianna and chris get into car accidents with tony.

I always felt that chris the series version of watching a guy rise through the ranks. Different guys represented mob guys at different points in their career. You had tony the boss, junior the old timer, paulie and silvio the veterans and chris the young guy who goes through the mob life cycle in the show from associate to de facto underboss at one point. I thought he should have gotten killed off in a more traditional way than he did. The car crash-smothering just seemed stupid.

I agree, i always get annoyed at Chris's death..

yeah i'm in agreement here too, chris's death is a sore spot for me every time i watch through the series and instead of getting better it actually gets a bit worse each time. i might skip that episode on future watches because it really gets on my nerves

Tony was a sociopath and like sociopaths he was fond of animals that were obedient. Ralph was his top earner and let a lot of his antics slide, but killing Tonys pet was the breaking point. His death was redundant, but not seeing something happen to Ralphie in that episode would've been boring for the viewers.

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! JANICE!!!

Was Chris supposed to kill the kolar kid in the pilot? They're having issues with the czech garbage men stealing stops on one of their routes and tony gives chris permission to take care of it after chrs asks but after he does it pussy and later tony make comments as though chris went overboard and wasn't supposed to kill him

my understanding was that the meeting wasn't even supposed to take place at all and nobody knew about it besides chris and kolar.

chris (without authorisation) invited kolar to the meeting with the intention of killing him (the gun was already planted there) thinking he'd get some sort of praise or reward.

obviously tony didn't think the fued was at the point of violence yet but instead thought there was still talking to be done. or at the very least wanted to have the violence controlled by himself rather than chris just taking it upon himself to commit a murder (of presumably the kolar family member with the least juice, since he was young and was clearly under the direction of his uncles).

Rusty Milio.

I mean insted, Phil should whack Carmine ''Brainless The Second'' Lupertazzi Jr., Milio was too cool to whack

milio was the driving force behind carmine's campaign and like they said he'd just find another puppet to control and use to stage another power grab.

imo while milio was indeed pretty cool he most definately had to get clipped

I think rusty was about sending a message because it happened after carmine and johnny had reached a truce. They reached a truce at the end of season 5 and rusty got whacked after johnny's daughter's wedding in season 6.

It was johnny sending a message that he knew rusty was behind carmin'e move and he wasn't going to stand for that kind of mischief in his family. Also because rusty made a move once through carmine he had proved to be a threat to the thrown as long as he was alive.

Probably the Ukranian, who the Italians mistook for Phil, and his daughter haha

yeah, but Milio was a smart man, and was probably a good earner for the family, Phil should've take Milio to his side, plus, he would be stronger against The Soprano Crew while he also had Milio calmed down and on his side, Jeez i'm a fuckin' genius ain't I ?

What about the russian in the Pine Barrens episode? (If he was killed.)

Also, people seem to forget about the annoying way Ralphie said the word whore.(hoo-er) He deserved to be killed just for that.
And don't forget about how he ratted on Neo and Morpheus. He got Apac killed.

"And yes, that was a wig. Silvio wore one, too- a bad one."

Tony's wig was pretty awful too.

I don't think Gigi Cestone should have gone out on the crapper. Reality would be that some of these guys could have been locked up rather than killed of.

Ya i agree, that was a pretty shitty way to kill off a good character

Most unnecessary killing---Tracee.
Most unnecessary whacking----Adriana,without a doubt.What information of value did Adriana actually have ? When Tony asks Christopher if she told them about Ralphie,he acts almost as if she was there,helping with the dismemberment.It's clear when the Feds ask her about Ralphie,shortly after he disappeared,she's genuinely clueless to his whereabouts,as she is to the truth about her uncle Richie and Big Pussy.There has long been an ironclad rule in Cosa Nostra----the men don't involve any woman in their lives in their activities,nor do they divulge anything but peripheral details,at best with regard to ANY Cosa Nostra business.While there have been a few violators of this rule,they are far and few in-between,as this is definitely a "whackable" offense.This rule is in place to protect the women from the very thing that happened to Adriana,as well as(as ALWAYS),the organization itself.Imagine if the women were more involved,how many times they would've been targeted by investigators.The reason why they aren't---in real life----is because it's well known that they won't get anything of value out of them.

As unrealistic as that whole storyline was----no worse example than SAC Cubitoso screaming at Adriana :"you've been giving us s__t...I want you wired up"---SERIOUSLY ??? What were any of the guys they were targeting gonna say to,or even AROUND Adriana ???? ---at least the FBI was shown as being just as scummy and ruthless as any of the Mob guys on their best day,when it came to getting what they wanted.I loved it in the beginning,when Adriana hurled all over them !!!!

Sorry about the rant,and back to my original point----killing Adriana was a ridiculous over-reaction and totally uncalled for.She couldn't of hurt anyone in the organization on her best day.If the Feds would've tried to make a case on her information,they would've been laughed right out of any court !!!!

Lorraine Calluzzo, it was a internal war within the Lupertazzi family, but still. At least Phil, Billy, and joey peeps all are killed during the course of the show.

Ralph was changing, people were beginning to like him, both the mobster's and their wives. People felt for him when his son died and after that he was never the same prick Ralph. This was alluded to during Tony's dream in which Ralph is in the front seat with the catepillar on his head. The catepillar turns into a butterfly, is the saying, and Ralph was blossoming into something other than what he'd been in the past. David Chase also said this after the show ended.


In that sense, I don't think he was living on borrowed time, he made his mistakes in past and people acknowledged and moved past it. Once he started becoming likable his relationships with other guys in the family began to change. His soldiers became super loyal to him because of this as well.


Adriana getting bumped off wasn't "unnecessary" at all. She knew too much, she was privy to a lot of information regarding the criminal workings and hierarchy of the family. She brought an agent into Tony's home and immediate presence, she brought her to dinners, and other gatherings, which as we know from real life occurrences is punishable by death in itself. She also implicated them in a murder when they brought her in the office and asked her about a guy who disappeared and she told them she'd last seen this person with Tony, Chris & Co. and when she went to go snoop around, they had him tied down or something. At the end of the day, she was an informant, woman or not, she knew the rules and she broke them, she was a risk to a lot of people and she had to go.

Danny Greene...caused the entire downfall of a mafia dynasty in Midwest powerhouse in Cleveland.

Jimmy Altieri.

He was a rat

yeah i don't understand that either, he was a rat and he got killed, that's about as necessary as it gets lol

Haha I know. I think some people think that since the rat was Big Puss, Jimmy Altieri was innocent. But really both of them were rats.

Respectfully disagree that Ralph didn't deserve to go. And there are two points from your post to correct. First, Ralphie was not well-liked, neither by the wiseguys or their women. Granted he was treated more sympathetically after his son's accident, but that was it. And there did seem to be some change in him after the accident, but not everyone was buying it. The second correction is that Ralph's son did not die - he was in a coma from the bow & arrow accident.

Did Ralph need to die when he Tony killed him? No. But with Ralph, it was a long accumulation of things that could easily justify him getting whacked: 1) the Ginny Sack insult, 2) killing Tracey in the Bing parking lot, 3) hitting the bouncer with a chain in front of the entire Soprano crew, 4) his overall general demeanor towards others, and 5) his inability to keep Jackie Jr. out of trouble. Ralph was a complete prick to Rosalie, Janice, and every other woman he was with. In "No Show," he even said that part of the reason for dating Janice was to get a better relationship with Tony.

Ralph's "who cares" attitude about Pie-0-Mie's death was the last straw with Tony. Paulie, Sil, Christopher, and many others viewed Ralph as a loose cannon and untrustworthy. Contrast their feelings about Ralph against the strong feelings about Big Pussy. I think an argument could be made that Ralph was only kept alive for as long as he was due to his money making skills. All his other b.s. was overlooked because he was a good earner.

I thought it was strange when the waiter was clipped (by Paulie and Chris) after complaining about being stiffed on his tip after serving a large table.

Generally speaking, don't wise guys tip well? Or was it realistic to leave a minuscule tip, like Chris did?

The stripper that Ralph beat to death was certainly the most unnecessary killing...and guys, it was a series, nothing more than make believe. Email David Chase to ask him the why questions...is the series worth analyzing when we will NEVER get answers?

The whole point of Chris being cheap with the tip was his rebelling against Paulie. At various points in the episode, Paulie was relishing sticking Chris with the bill with expensive orders. Chris's anger wasn't with the waiter, but with Paulie. Then the waiter made the mistake of confronting Chris about the ridiculously small tip, which was right after Chris got into it with Paulie about forking over $1,000 for dinner. The waiter was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.