Everyone knew elmwoodparker was The Don on anp. He was open about it. He's Joe lombardi's nephew.

Someone is not being honest here.

Do you know something about someone's IP address? Lol

.....uh oh.....lol

My initial suspicions were correct, or so it seems.....?

What initial suspicions? I know elmwoodparker. I explained it to SC. He learned a lot from me and his uncle on my wife's side of the family, Lombardi.

He and Chitown were on ANP together even though ChiTown acted like he didn't know what I was talking about. What else do you want to know?

Since when have you ever laid off personal attacks? That's all you do. And it's why you were banned from ANOTHER forum. And why do you keep making this stupid argument about Magnafichi? Even you don't believe his claim about Fat Tony and Chin coming to Chicago. You're so obsessed with protecting the honor of anyone connected with the Outfit, you'll even contradict yourself!



I got suspended for a week because of debates I got in with other people. I got banned because I complained about the suspension on another forum, ANOTHER FORUM'S moderator didn't like it, and decided to just ban me for good.

And don't fool yourself. I don't care enough about you to work to see you "go down." I just get sick of your lies and BS.

" I don't care enough about you to work and see you go down." What are you implying here Ivy?

Guys, this crap is really getting tired. You have to stop the finger pointing and the pissing contests. You're on short leashes now, so if you're planning on staying around here, stop the crap!

How on earth has ivy league not gotten banned? What exactly does he contribute to this forum? He just copies & pastes regurgitated information & picks unwarranted fights. Seriously, not bashing, I'd actually like an explanation from the mod(s).

Not bashing? That´s exactly what you do. This is an open forum and Ivy brings a lot to the table. Posters like you, and others who feel threatened by his info for obviuos reasons, are constantly picking fights with him. Not the other way around.

I agree with Hairy Knuckles 100%. Ivy has great information that also coincides with a lot of street information.

Frankly, I fail to see what the big fucking deal is with Huron and ChiTown, especially ChiTown more than Huron.

On the other Forum, ChiTown said a few months ago that the Outfit was divided into two sections, North and South.
Ivy and I Agree.

Chitown said Grand Ave was the smallest of the 4 crews and was subservient to Elmwood Park for some muscle if needed.

Ivy and I agree.

So, what's the problem?

Vena and Spina are made , but not Spina's brothers. Chicago doesn't make a lot of people. Never did.

ChiTown posted under the name Grand Ave 420 on the other Forum and he was actually pretty good at what he said. He exaggerated a little but not terrible. Now, all of a sudden, he comes on here and is all fucking upset because Grand Ave is not like the Taylor St. Crew 50 years ago.

I don't see what the problem is at all? I asked him to name any more made guys that he thinks are with Grand Ave and I said I would check it out and give an honest opinion.

Haven't heard a word. All he wants to do is argue about really nothing.
He even said I was a Grand Avenue hater which is the most stupid thing I ever heard! He also said I was an Elmwood Park Fanboy!
How could I be an Elmwood Park Fanboy when I have stated 20 times that they retreated years ago?

No, ChiTown is the problem, not Ivy. He's measuring his entire self worth as a person with the size of Grand Ave which is asinine.

What happens on other message boards or forums is really not subject matter for the GBB. Let's leave these comments on who/what is bad for little old ladies who have nothing else to discuss.

Hey SC, I understand the first part of your statement very clearly and I can see your point.
What does the second part of your statement mean if you don't mind me asking 'Let's leave these comments on who/what is bad for little old ladies who have nothing else to discuss'
What does that mean? Is that some kind of backhanded sarcastic humor meant to insult someone?

Very simply that there are better things to discuss here than members' personalities.

Okay, fair enough.

Getting back on topic, are the Cozzos made...or just top level associates?

Vincent Cozzo died in 2007. No other Cozzo's are made.

Call me crazy but I'll take regurgitated facts over original bullshit any day. But that's me.

Yeah I meant Phil and Sam. Associates?

Ivy Chi Hairy Yes u know the deal

Funkster. Phil and Sam are not made guys.

Grand Ave hasn't made any guys in years. Joey Lombardo and John DiFronzo haven't made anybody in years.
Grand Ave has a couple of made guys left over who answer to Elmwood Park. If anyone says differently, tell them to prove it.
A couple other younger guys hanging around Richard's Bar in The Grand Ave area are not made guys.

You have a choice:
You can believe Chitown, who is a Fanboy and wants Grand Ave to be big and powerful like it was 35 years ago, or you can believe Me, Ivy, Rocky Lombardo, Willie Messino and the F.B.I.

Those are everybody's choices.

In your opinion, has Cicero made anyone in the last 15 years? Btw...Willie and Jack story coming soon..have my coworker typing it up for me. Not a good story for Willie fans...

Yes, Cicero has made guys in the last 12 years. I don't know how many, but there were several made in the last 12 years.

Jack liked to keep Willie down. Willie was very loyal to Jack and also Johnny.

Jack was a cheapskate and not very popular with his own men.
They liked Joe Gagliano much better.

Phil Cozzo will 100% get made when he arrives home.

Yaawwwnn....grasping for things that just aren't there...just making up nonsense, really. It's 100% the other way around.

Also, copying & pasting things anyone can find on ipsn.org is not contributing information.

Huron stop saying people arent contributing when all u do is make up and exagerate bullshit about the outfit to try and make seem like its as powerful as u want it to be. Quit being a dickrider and u might actually contribute something.

OK, boys, it ends here! No more bashing. No more warnings.

No more warnings.

Who was that 85 year old man coming out of Super Low with a bag of groceries on Grand Ave in Elmwood Park yesterday who then jumped into his burgundy Dodge pick up with Mancari/Oak Lawn ads on the license plates??? Maybe he was headed east down Grand all the way to Richard's to meet with some of the posters here to give them juicy tidbits to post lol ...:) I can understand the debates here but not the impassioned disputes..seriously. But it's sure fun to watch..:)

@ Chicago..speaking of Cerone, what do you think of Fosco's stupid story that Aiuppa was planning on killing him if he hadn't died of cancer with the help of DiFronzo and Messino ??? As much as Cerone's guys disliked him - including Andriacchi - Cerone was in no position to change the order of things when he was released from prison and I don't see a reason at all to think that Cerone was planning on arming them since they had all finally gotten rich while he was in prison. What motive what Aiuppa and Cerone's old crew have to kill him when he was already dying??????????