Okay, read the book. Either way, the Bonnano, Colombo and Lucchese Families all operated the same according to the F.B.I Undercover work of special agent Pistone. What's wrong? Ivy said he only believes what the Feds tell him. So, read the God Damn book, Donnie Brasco, and see what the Feds say about those 3 Families. Don't you believe the Feds?

No Ivy, read the book. The book details the entire undercover investigation. Don't you believe the Feds anymore? What happened? Change of heart because in the late 1970's the Feds told the truth about how over rated these Families are and the average made guy is close to being a broke loser. What's wrong? The truth hurts?

Where in the book does he say this?

It depends. When Gravano was underboss he made a lot more money than the next capo in the Gambino Crime Family. He owned construction.

First, I've read the book. And there's nothing in it that says what you believe it does. Second, the only guy who can't seem to let this go is you. And it's because you can't accept the truth. If the the outdated image of a Chicago family that no longer exists helps you sleep at night, fine. But nobody else is buying it. It's guys like you that Chicago posters have the reputation they do on these forums.

And the New York image that you have not only is outdate, it never really existed according to agent Joe Pistone. That's why some of you New York posters have that reputation on these Blogs.

You were warned about this. You didn't heed the warning. You have two weeks now to think about if you want to come back and stop this nonsense.

Drop this, Ivy. You must stop egging elmwood on. If he's foolish enough to take your bait that's his problem, but it must stop with you.