GangsterBB.NET


Funko Pop! Movies:
The Godfather 50th Anniversary Collectors Set -
3 Figure Set: Michael, Vito, Sonny

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 116 guests, and 4 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website
NEW!
Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
TheGhost, Pumpkin, RussianCriminalWorld, JohnnyTheBat, Havana
10349 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 67,337
DE NIRO 44,945
J Geoff 31,285
Hollander 23,712
pizzaboy 23,296
SC 22,902
Turnbull 19,502
Mignon 19,066
Don Cardi 18,238
Sicilian Babe 17,300
plawrence 15,058
Forum Statistics
Forums21
Topics42,279
Posts1,057,746
Members10,349
Most Online796
Jan 21st, 2020
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico #709828
04/10/13 09:20 PM
04/10/13 09:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,776
D
Dwalin2011 Offline OP
Underboss
Dwalin2011  Offline OP
D
Underboss
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,776
I recently heard there is a book which tries to "rehabilitate" the corrupt FBI agent Paul Rico (the one who worked with Connolly and Bulger). I gave a look to the site of the book just out of curiosity
http://www.ricobook.com/endorsements.htm
and was really shocked at seeing a quote from Joseph Pistone who says this about the book:

Quote:
A great read on how narrow minded prosecutors and the government ruined the life and reputation of an FBI legend and hero. Great insight into how investigators and prosecutors can twist an investigation and the law to suit their own agendas.


I mean, I have always thought Pistone was a man who can clearly tell right from wrong, it's not like he put so much effort against the mafia for nothing. And now he is telling us he believes Rico is innocent? No way he is, Rico didn't even deny (as far as I know) that he framed 4 people for a murder they didn't commit (even though they were gangsters, they were still innocent of this particular crime)
Now I am really disappointed about Pistone, I have always viewed him as an antimafia hero.

Last edited by Dwalin2011; 04/10/13 09:25 PM.

Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Dwalin2011] #709921
04/11/13 01:05 PM
04/11/13 01:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 613
M
meffaboston Offline
Underboss
meffaboston  Offline
M
Underboss
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 613
I agree pistone is clearly out of line,,it couldn't be more clear that Rico was a crooked fuck

Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: meffaboston] #710261
04/13/13 01:53 AM
04/13/13 01:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 177
Westchester
Frankie_Five_Angels Offline
Made Member
Frankie_Five_Angels  Offline
Made Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 177
Westchester
If I'm not mistaken, I believe he totally backs Lin DeVecchio in one of his books. Might be a pattern with him. "Always give the agent the benefit of the doubt"


"I'll give you undignified. Go fuck yourself. You, Phil... whoever. He's my fuckin' cousin."

"My name is George. I'm unemployed and live with my parents"..
Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Frankie_Five_Angels] #710910
04/16/13 09:23 AM
04/16/13 09:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 211
S
ScottD Offline
Made Member
ScottD  Offline
S
Made Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 211
The FBI falls over itself to paint all agents with a brush of incorruptibility, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. They stick together no matter what.

It's , on one hand, what makes them so good at what they do. But on the other hand, it turns a few of them into egotistical monsters with little grip on reality and terrible cooperators with other law enforcement agencies.

Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Frankie_Five_Angels] #710937
04/16/13 12:16 PM
04/16/13 12:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 93
C
conopizza Offline
Button
conopizza  Offline
C
Button
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 93
Yeah, in "Unfinished Business," Pistone goes all out for Devecchio and he was among the agents acting thug like in support of him during the abandoned trial...

"Unfinished Business" is worth reading but parts of it are half-assed, like he didn't even bother to research his own work (like when, and by whom, was Jilly Greca indicted) and there's a good bit of padding also... Too bad, because I would like more details on Donnie Brasco and his real insights into the Scarpa mess.

Originally Posted By: Frankie_Five_Angels
If I'm not mistaken, I believe he totally backs Lin DeVecchio in one of his books. Might be a pattern with him. "Always give the agent the benefit of the doubt"

Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: conopizza] #710939
04/16/13 12:22 PM
04/16/13 12:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,502
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,502
AZ
I'm not sure that Pistone is the most reliable source. Re. "Donnie Brasco" (a great read - better than the movie) he claims that the Commission put a half-million price on his head. Uhhh...the Commission doesn't have a standing army of killers to punish law enforcement agents they don't like. Nor do they have a war chest to pay for it. I can't imagine why any Don would pay a dime to avenge a mistake the Bonannos made through their own stupidity.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: conopizza] #710942
04/16/13 12:25 PM
04/16/13 12:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
pizzaboy Offline
The Fuckin Doctor
pizzaboy  Offline
The Fuckin Doctor

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,296
Throggs Neck
Originally Posted By: conopizza
"Unfinished Business" is worth reading but parts of it are half-assed, like he didn't even bother to research his own work (like when, and by whom, was Jilly Greca indicted)

Jilly Greca was murdered in a drive by while waiting at a traffic light in 1980, so there's no telling if he would have been indicted in the Donnie Brasco cases.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: pizzaboy] #711008
04/16/13 06:28 PM
04/16/13 06:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 93
C
conopizza Offline
Button
conopizza  Offline
C
Button
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 93
yes, pizzaboy-- it's in "Unfinished Business" (but not "Donnie Brasco") that Jilly was whacked at the light while under indictment. The hit is correct but I wonder about that indictment.

It's researchable, of course, but not on any legal or newpaper archive I've seen so I don't know if it was state or fed, Brooklyn/Eastern District (most likely) or Manhattan/Southern District (possible)?

also, if one follows even the known Colombo trials/hits of 1979-1980, it's very possible Greca was whacked just because of all the Persico/Scarpa shit going down then. Seems weird to me Pistone doesn't say WHAT Jilly was nailed for or by whom.

re: the $500,000 on Pistone's head, sounds like bullshit to me too ALTHOUGH... it does seem possible that a FBI informant ** said ** that either to a) just keep his mouth moving or b) to fuck with Pistone, since they knew that was the only real "revenge" they'd get.

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: conopizza
"Unfinished Business" is worth reading but parts of it are half-assed, like he didn't even bother to research his own work (like when, and by whom, was Jilly Greca indicted)

Jilly Greca was murdered in a drive by while waiting at a traffic light in 1980, so there's no telling if he would have been indicted in the Donnie Brasco cases.

Last edited by conopizza; 04/16/13 06:30 PM.
Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Dwalin2011] #711241
04/18/13 02:33 AM
04/18/13 02:33 AM
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 259
L
Lenin_and_McCarthy Offline
Capo
Lenin_and_McCarthy  Offline
L
Capo
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 259
On the subject of Unfinished Business, DeVecchio's book was coauthored by the same guy.

Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Dwalin2011] #711410
04/18/13 05:50 PM
04/18/13 05:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 160
OldSmoke Offline
Made Member
OldSmoke  Offline
Made Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 160
I think Pistone backing Rico up is something that the Feds are just using in order to clean up the image of the Boston FBI. Besides, most cops always grab each others' backs unless they got personal grudges.

But I definitely lost respect for Pistone.

Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Dwalin2011] #714897
05/09/13 07:05 PM
05/09/13 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,325
MI
Lilo Offline
Lilo  Offline

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,325
MI
I just finished "Unfinished Business". Pistone definitely has a healthy ego and is extremely supportive of law enforcement but that's not really surprising. As far as the supposed contract, I was initially dismissive as well but given that the Colombos were actively trying to kill federal prosecutors and FBI agents after Pistone had completed his undercover work, perhaps an attempt to get him wasn't so far fetched??


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Frankie_Five_Angels] #714902
05/09/13 07:30 PM
05/09/13 07:30 PM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1
Subterfuge Offline
Associate
Subterfuge  Offline
Associate
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1
Originally Posted By: Frankie_Five_Angels
If I'm not mistaken, I believe he totally backs Lin DeVecchio in one of his books. Might be a pattern with him. "Always give the agent the benefit of the doubt"


Yes he did in his 'Unfinished Business' book. He worked with DeVecchio and he gave some compelling reasons for his innocense...it all sounded logical to me but I don't know the inside story, either.

Re: Joseph Pistone and his views on Paul Rico [Re: Dwalin2011] #714941
05/09/13 09:43 PM
05/09/13 09:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 136
J
JerseyShine Offline
Made Member
JerseyShine  Offline
J
Made Member
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 136
JP is Blue Wall of Silence all the way...


Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™