So you're condoning the language he used? I mean some of these New York Posters have stated that the 5 Families in New York were the most powerful and I'm disputing it with evidence by the F.B.I. The Chicago posters don't think much of the New York Posters who keep saying the 5 Families are/were the most powerful in the Country when it is clear that maybe 2 of them along with the Outfit were but certainly not the 3 smaller New York Families. I guess the truth hurts. Why would anyone even take it so personal to use that kind of language? Again, so you're condoning the language he used? Well, if you are, then that says a lot about you.

So you're condoning the language he used?

Like you know what happens when little 16 year old kids living in a mob neighborhood would see a movie of the mob earning millions and nothing bad happening? NY five families would have now a double sized membership than it has now.

PP, No, absolutely not. Bigger doesn't mean better. IT'S QUALITY that you want, NOT quantity! What good is it to have a bunch of made members, half of whom are rat informers or are almost starving. What good is it?

What I'm basically saying is that it was the kids who grew up in places like Westchester and Long Island who were more prone to adopt a romantacized view after watching a Coppola or Scorsese film.

You know what would be bizarre? If a kid who grew up like that eventually did join the mob and actually put the romanticization stuff into practice in his mafia career.

Maybe it has started to happen a bit. I remember when Alphonse Trucchio was sentenced, he said "They can't take my honor." To me that sounded more like something from a Puzo novel than something Luciano or Gambino would have ever said.

What's wrong? The truth hurts? Are you saying that Joe Pistone and the entire undercover deal never happened because it doesn't fit into your delusional belief about the New York Families. I don't hate the New York Mafia at all. You notice, I haven't said anything against the Genovese Family. No, I choose to believe the F.B.I. who basically exposed the Bonnano Family as not being very powerful and the other two smaller Families operated the same way. Most made guys did not have very much money and were struggling. That's what the Feds said in their book Donnie Brasco which was a huge undercover investigation. No, some of you new York Fan Boys don't want to accept reality given to you by the Feds. You guys only quote the Feds WHEN IT SERVES YOUR PURPOSE. WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT HOW POWERFUL THE OTHER 3 SMALLER Families are in New York, remember all Sonny Black's made guys cracking open parking meters to get some money. That should be your reality.

the feds can be wrong. they didnt even know about phil lombardo running the genovese for 15 years. there were estimates that the gambinos had 800 made members. not saying the chicago posters are right but to take the fed reports as the bible on oc is ridiculous. even 50 years later we dont really know who was the chicago boss in the 1960's.