When you look at the size of the NY families (compared to the relatively low percentage of members and associates that flip), as well as their activity, you don't make the mistake of viewing things solely through the lens of rats like you want to. There's a lot of rats in NY, more than anywhere else, because that's where most of the members and activity is. There's not exactly a lot of rats in Tampa, St. Louis, or San Jose at the moment, if you get what I'm saying.

Marco D'Amico?

When you look at the size of the NY families (compared to the relatively low percentage of members and associates that flip), as well as their activity, you don't make the mistake of viewing things solely through the lens of rats like you want to. There's a lot of rats in NY, more than anywhere else, because that's where most of the members and activity is. There's not exactly a lot of rats in Tampa, St. Louis, or San Jose at the moment, if you get what I'm saying.

it's gotta be at least 30 percent and that ain't good at all

you should really spend a whole 5 minutes doing research before just throwing out these silly statements. lets just look at one recent example: mafia takedown day. there were well over 100 people arrested, granted not all made, but thats besides the point. going by your logic, well over 30 of them have probably ratted, but like almost everything you post here, its just not true. try harder next time.

i can agree that 30% is probably a little high

but 20% ain't

you should really spend a whole 5 minutes doing research before just throwing out these silly statements. lets just look at one recent example: mafia takedown day. there were well over 100 people arrested, granted not all made, but thats besides the point. going by your logic, well over 30 of them have probably ratted, but like almost everything you post here, its just not true. try harder next time.

Like seriously what is to be gained from ur home town mafia being the strongest. Does that make you proud to be from chicago? Why root for these guys? They wouldnt root for you. Hell they probably dont even root for each other. Whats the fucking point? Why are you proud that chicago has a powerful crime family? I hate seeing fuckin nerds on here goin around calling other nerds fanboys bc everyone is on here bc of some kind of interest in this thing. Im not worried about any kinda morality about how one makes a living, you do what u gotta do. But ur not gonna see me go "Boy i wish the decavalcantes will regroup in the shadows and i will defend their credibility to my grave!"... Its fuckin stupid and childish. Grow up. Shits getting old

Like seriously what is to be gained from ur home town mafia being the strongest. Does that make you proud to be from chicago? Why root for these guys? They wouldnt root for you. Hell they probably dont even root for each other. Whats the fucking point? Why are you proud that chicago has a powerful crime family? I hate seeing fuckin nerds on here goin around calling other nerds fanboys bc everyone is on here bc of some kind of interest in this thing. Im not worried about any kinda morality about how one makes a living, you do what u gotta do. But ur not gonna see me go "Boy i wish the decavalcantes will regroup in the shadows and i will defend their credibility to my grave!"... Its fuckin stupid and childish. Grow up. Shits getting old

There's MANY guys in Chicago with lots of power under the radar that you won't find online and on charts . I've said many times you can't find everything online. With DiFronzo you gotta remember really how much he owns. That on top of the money from illegal activities. That's a ton of money. And with money comes power. He may not be as active but he's on top.

Like seriously what is to be gained from ur home town mafia being the strongest. Does that make you proud to be from chicago? Why root for these guys? They wouldnt root for you. Hell they probably dont even root for each other. Whats the fucking point? Why are you proud that chicago has a powerful crime family? I hate seeing fuckin nerds on here goin around calling other nerds fanboys bc everyone is on here bc of some kind of interest in this thing. Im not worried about any kinda morality about how one makes a living, you do what u gotta do. But ur not gonna see me go "Boy i wish the decavalcantes will regroup in the shadows and i will defend their credibility to my grave!"... Its fuckin stupid and childish. Grow up. Shits getting old

But also remember that many posters on here were not old enough to remember when the the mob was the strongest. I can understand why they want to see them be powerful cause they missed out on the time when people would turn on the news and a few times a year they would open their cities paper and see "Gangland Slaying. Looks like its tied to local organized crime."

Like seriously what is to be gained from ur home town mafia being the strongest. Does that make you proud to be from chicago? Why root for these guys? They wouldnt root for you. Hell they probably dont even root for each other. Whats the fucking point? Why are you proud that chicago has a powerful crime family? I hate seeing fuckin nerds on here goin around calling other nerds fanboys bc everyone is on here bc of some kind of interest in this thing. Im not worried about any kinda morality about how one makes a living, you do what u gotta do. But ur not gonna see me go "Boy i wish the decavalcantes will regroup in the shadows and i will defend their credibility to my grave!"... Its fuckin stupid and childish. Grow up. Shits getting old

Reminds me of the Chris Rock bit: "Shaquille O'Neal is rich. The white man that signs his check is wealthy."

Nicky, Who are these guys then? How would you know they are flying under the radar? Can you name them?

LOL! Rock also had the solution for gun control. Did you ever see his tax the bullets live act? Something like tax every bullet $1,000 so that people don't waste them and if somebody gets shot they must of deserved it because someone spent at least 1k to shoot them. lol

Pretty funny when he did that one on one of his live shows on HBO i think it was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX-nFmL0II

Out of the mouths of babes. Kid's 19 years old and he made more sense with this post than almost anyone in the entire thread.

The truth is, none of these families are what they used to be. None of them. They'll always be around to a degree because crime will always be here, but it will never be the same. And sure, guys like the DiFronzos are insanely rich. But guys like Matty and Fat Tony left generational wealth behind, too. But their kids and grandkids are completely removed from the scene so you don't read about it.

But it doesn't matter, anyway. Whether it's New York, Chicago, Boston or fucking New Orleans. My point is, there aren't any 20 year old kids coming up today who are going to make money like that ever again. The DiFronzos and Salernos and Accardos and Gambinos of this world got to keep their money and leave it behind. But if anyone thinks that guys are going to build that kind of money and legacy from the ground up today, they're out of their collective fucking minds. The Government won't allow it, and that's that.


Get over it, kid. You were born too late. You'll never know what life was like around these guys when they were strong. Movies like "Goodfellas" and (especially) "A Bronx Tale" were very accurate. I was born in '59, grew up in the Belmont section of the Bronx at the same time as Chazz Palminteri did, and he did a great job of recreating that area and that era. But it's never going to be like that again.

"You got pecks, well i got Tek's!" lol!

Yep thats the show i was talking about , thanks Jimmy.

Thank you for your input, but first things first. I am not a kid. I was born in October of 1953.

Secondly you seem to know alot KID. Keep up the good input here.

Thank you for your input, but first things first. I am not a kid. I was born in October of 1953.

Secondly you seem to know alot KID. Keep up the good input here.

Originally Posted By: Ghost_Town_Jimmy

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Vito Rizzuto yet.The man has been involved in some very relevant and historical hits,runs an entire country,and is treated with a great deal of respect by most of the administrations in the 5 families.

Exactly. If there's a city closer to 1970s-NYC, that's Montreal.

Like seriously what is to be gained from ur home town mafia being the strongest. Does that make you proud to be from chicago? Why root for these guys? They wouldnt root for you. Hell they probably dont even root for each other. Whats the fucking point? Why are you proud that chicago has a powerful crime family? I hate seeing fuckin nerds on here goin around calling other nerds fanboys bc everyone is on here bc of some kind of interest in this thing. Im not worried about any kinda morality about how one makes a living, you do what u gotta do. But ur not gonna see me go "Boy i wish the decavalcantes will regroup in the shadows and i will defend their credibility to my grave!"... Its fuckin stupid and childish. Grow up. Shits getting old

Like seriously what is to be gained from ur home town mafia being the strongest. Does that make you proud to be from chicago? Why root for these guys? They wouldnt root for you. Hell they probably dont even root for each other. Whats the fucking point? Why are you proud that chicago has a powerful crime family? I hate seeing fuckin nerds on here goin around calling other nerds fanboys bc everyone is on here bc of some kind of interest in this thing. Im not worried about any kinda morality about how one makes a living, you do what u gotta do. But ur not gonna see me go "Boy i wish the decavalcantes will regroup in the shadows and i will defend their credibility to my grave!"... Its fuckin stupid and childish. Grow up. Shits getting old

+1

Time to get off your high horse here bud...the Outfit is probably the last reason I'm proud to be from Chicago. Hell the Blackhawks and Michael Jordan are better reasons to love this city. Or the fact that our pizza is better and we aren't a bunch of fashionable assholes like you east coasters.

If it were up to me, I'd like the Outfit to dissapear forever. I got family in construction I got family down at McCormick Place...they suffer because of the Outfit and the corruption they spawned. It's an embarrassment to have back to back governors of different parties go to jail. Sure I prefer them Italian criminals the ghetto gangbangers we see nowadays, but just because one advocates one family is stronger does not mean they are a "fan." So please do yourself a favor and stop calling me one.