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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #872742
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Hmmm, that could be interesting.


That's one word to describe the situation. :-)

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #873008
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Link top Paul Cherry's latest article in the Montreal Gazette:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...ume-next-month/

"Bail hearing for two alleged heads of the Mafia will resume next month"

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #875320
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #875323
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Damn, three years in a halfway house. Jeez.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #876446
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http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...aine-in-arizona

I didn't realize Del Baso had a brother, but nabbed for drugs.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #876487
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Damn, 62 keys? I don't think he will like his sentence here.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #877107
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Lorenzo Giordano was shot at in the parking lot of the gym he frequents in Laval (north of Montreal).

Link:

"Un important lieutenant de la mafia montréalaise atteint par balles à Laval"

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...les-a-laval.php

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877108
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Some media outlets are reporting that Giordano succumbed to his injuries; however, his death has not been confirmed by the province's police, the Sûreté du Québec.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877111
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Hooooly sh$t!!!!

It is back on like a mother bleeper in Montreal. Was he one of the high ranking guys who just got out of jail? Where does/did he fit?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877112
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Who again was he in the scheme of things a rizzuto guy? I remember his name always coming up. I know there lcn but they function like cartel. All over drugs. I give it to some of the NY family's they keep there eyes on the legit shit. Unions. Trash and gambling. I no Vito started his inroads to the construction biz but his whole family was destroyed by drugs. There fighting Haitians street gangs bikers and other street guys. That's the complete opposite of organized crime. My last point I still think they were a satellite operation of the NYC family just really big and drugs did them in. I would guess every made guy that was connected to the bonanno family is dead today like wiped out.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877118
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^^^^
The Sûreté du Québec has confirmed Lorenzo Giordano's death.

See slide 15 of the file to which I've linked below--the slide shows how the RCMP viewed Giordano back in 2006.

https://www.ceic.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/Fichiers_client/centre_documentaire/Piece_10P-123.pdf

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877121
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Damnnnnn...Giordano just came home. If the words are true about Arcadi, Del Balso & him possibly being the ones who wanted back in on the leadership, then it seems as if Leonardo & Stefano still hold some rank on the outside.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877122
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Finally. An English-language article about Giordano's murder this morning:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...our-multisports

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877123
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This is getting nuts. And people really find it hard to see why the Montreal Mafia is often compared to the Godfather and the Corleone Family.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877126
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You join the mob up there you have a life expectancy of 1 to 3 yrs on the street. I would pass join the bikers. I wonder of the last 50 murders we now a hand full were made guys in the bonanno family if it was from galante rustelli or Massino days. If these guys are inducted lcn. Cause that would just make the old saying a made guy untouchable because up there they don't give 2 shits. What could this guy have done he's been out of jail 2 months and was in prison I'm guessing 5 yrs before. And don't they have cameras. You shoot someone in any city in mass your likely on cam. And we have these shot spotters everywhere so a gunshot pops off the whole station rushing to the scence. Get with the technology Canada.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: pmac] #877133
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Originally Posted By: pmac
You join the mob up there you have a life expectancy of 1 to 3 yrs on the street. I would pass join the bikers. I wonder of the last 50 murders we now a hand full were made guys in the bonanno family if it was from galante rustelli or Massino days. If these guys are inducted lcn. Cause that would just make the old saying a made guy untouchable because up there they don't give 2 shits. What could this guy have done he's been out of jail 2 months and was in prison I'm guessing 5 yrs before. And don't they have cameras. You shoot someone in any city in mass your likely on cam. And we have these shot spotters everywhere so a gunshot pops off the whole station rushing to the scence. Get with the technology Canada.


Not going to get into this again, but the Rizzutos aren't Bonannos, neither is any other current member of the Montreal Mafia. And you're being naive if you think that Montreal doesn't have cameras. If you read the English article it says that the gym had cameras and that the authorities closed the place off to observe them and question the witnesses. You're also off the mark in your last comment about the Rizzutos/Montreal Mob not being LCN because they focus too much on drugs and were in wars with biker gangs and street gangs and other drug cartels. For the most part they weren't. In the Rizzutos case, they're links to the drug cartels in South America and Sicily made them the suppliers of the drugs the bikers and street gangs in Montreal sold. The Rizzutos have always been heavily intertwined with the Hells Angels, to the point where Salvatore Gervasi, son of Rizzuto soldier (according to some sources) Paolo Gervasi, was selling drugs for a rival biker gang, the Rock Machine, drugs that didn't come from the HA or the Rizzuto connection, and he was killed for it after refusing to stop, after being asked by Rizzuto members under the request of the Hells Angels. Its what led Paolo Gervasi to back away from the Rizzuto camp. Most of the Rizzutos conflicts were internal, even in the case of the Blues and Ducarme Joseph, after Vito was in prison, they were most likely acting on the orders of Salvatore Montagna and Tony Magi.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #877134
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Originally Posted By: pmac
You join the mob up there you have a life expectancy of 1 to 3 yrs on the street. I would pass join the bikers. I wonder of the last 50 murders we now a hand full were made guys in the bonanno family if it was from galante rustelli or Massino days. If these guys are inducted lcn. Cause that would just make the old saying a made guy untouchable because up there they don't give 2 shits. What could this guy have done he's been out of jail 2 months and was in prison I'm guessing 5 yrs before. And don't they have cameras. You shoot someone in any city in mass your likely on cam. And we have these shot spotters everywhere so a gunshot pops off the whole station rushing to the scence. Get with the technology Canada.


Not going to get into this again,


Followed by getting into it again. whistle


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877135
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Nah, just stating what myself and other members have repeatedly backed up through multiple sources. And I wasn't even speaking on the past, I'm talking about today. I dont think theres a question that today, those links are severed. But argue with yourself if you like, my man.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877137
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Wow, this is a pretty substantial hit up there.

I think this explains if the Arcadi faction is in good standing or not....

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877139
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The biggest question I think is, is this from the Leonardo Rizzuto/Stefano Sollecito camp, and a message to Arcadi. Or are there others we have yet to hear about who also want control. I don't see it being from Ontario, although that's also possible. And I don't see it being any sort of remnant of the Desjardins/De Vito group, when Desjardins really has his own problems to worry about right now.

This also puts my theory of the Calabrians regaining control into a tailspin.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877140
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I'm sarcastic if you read my posts no big deal. But if these guys are lcn why are they killing each other. Where's all the rules. The whole thing in USA is you can't kill a made guy with out a OK from the boss and the rule kinda what's kept the thing going till present day. That's all. Very interesting.

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Whose the boss oking all the hits.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877142
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Fascinating stuff.

They just don't give a fuck in Montreal.

Thanks to Antimafia and Gangsterinc for their contributions.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: pmac] #877148
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Originally Posted By: pmac
I'm sarcastic if you read my posts no big deal. But if these guys are lcn why are they killing each other. Where's all the rules. The whole thing in USA is you can't kill a made guy with out a OK from the boss and the rule kinda what's kept the thing going till present day. That's all. Very interesting.


There's not really anymore LCN, add to that the fact that Montreal, especially since the Rizzuto reign, wasn't a carbon copy of the American LCN and hardly followed their cardinal rules/rites. I'm sure someone is more or less overseeing, driving or approving the hits that we see against the remnants of the Rizzuto regime, but it's more of an italian clique wiping out the remaining competitors of old(I say competitor, but in Giordano's case, revenge makes more sense maybe).

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Originally Posted By: pmac
I'm sarcastic if you read my posts no big deal. But if these guys are lcn why are they killing each other. Where's all the rules. The whole thing in USA is you can't kill a made guy with out a OK from the boss and the rule kinda what's kept the thing going till present day. That's all. Very interesting.


They've been killing each other since the 60's. Its really no different from the Sicilian Mafia, who also kill each other, yet they are the original LCN. Montreal has never been comparable to NY. Philly was known for killing each other, Nicky Scarfo pretty much never got an okay from NY to kill other made men, outside of the Chickie Narducci hit. And he killed numerous made guys.

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Scarfo was a boss. You don't need permission from NY to kill guys in your own family.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #877152
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And by all accounts Leonardo Rizzuto is a boss, although loosely right now. Vito Rizzuto was a boss. Nick Rizzuto Sr. Was a boss. Thats my point, like Scarfo, they needed no permission to kill within their own borgata. Not only that but Sicilian blood line mattered more to them than rules called upon by NY. And I really don't think those guys cared all that much about what NY had to say post Cotroni. I'm still waiting for an answer as to who gave a French associate, Desjardins, the "okay", to kill a Bonanno acting boss.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #877155
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Nah, just stating what myself and other members have repeatedly backed up through multiple sources. And I wasn't even speaking on the past, I'm talking about today. I dont think theres a question that today, those links are severed. But argue with yourself if you like, my man.


I'm not arguing, you are. I was simply pointing out your contradiction. And your sources are taken out of context, misinterpret or pulled out of your ass.


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According to only you.

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