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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: cdn_wiseguy] #869302
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And Lorenzo Giodano is out of jail.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/09/un-membre-de-la-mafia-en-liberte

I think there will be a lot of action in the next few months with Arcadi and Del Baso soon to be released as well

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Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago.

My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives.

Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix


It seems to say that Sollecito was wearing an expensive watch that he himself had previously given to one of his soldiers (Campellone) after Campellone was whacked. I can see why that may not have gone over well.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869336
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Lol, article claims Sollecito & Leonardo lacked the seriousness of criminal affairs that they're fathers had.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: SinatraClub] #869344
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869349
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Didn't know Giordano was Calabrian. No wonder he was so close to Arcadi. Kind of interesting as it seems The Montreal Mob always it's Sicilian faction & Calabrian faction. And that Vito was indeed what held them together, and now that he's gone, the Calabrians may be taking over. It's like the Vic Cotroni & Paolo Violi murder scenario, but in reverse.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869391
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869413
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I think ray d sentencing is next week there should be a treasure trove of shit that comes out. But I know nothing about the laws up there so maybe it's kept sealed untill all 6 of the guys charged in his murder plead out.

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One more thing. How organized is the montreal mob seems like there drug dealers with zero respect for lcn rules or so called rules. Killing people at there house in front of there wives. It's kinda cartel ish.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: pmac] #869472
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Bail hearing set for alleged new leaders of Montreal mafia
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Posted on 12/12/2015 by Luciano Pipia, Richard Dagenais

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The alleged new leaders of the Montreal mafia have a bail hearing in the new year.

The hearing for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito will take place over three days starting January 11th.

A publication ban is in effect until at least January 27th....

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: cdn_wiseguy] #869492
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Originally Posted By: cdn_wiseguy
When I finished reading the story about the Molotov cocktails, I clicked on a link that was said to be posted 4 hours ago.

My French is just mediocre, and google translate wasn't the greatest. But it looks as though the story suggests that the arrest of Sollecito and Leonardo Rizzuto saved their lives because of a threat on their lives.

Hopefully my translation wasn't way off, but if that's what the story implies, my guess would be that Arcadi, Del Baso and Giardano are laying ground work for their return.

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2015/12/10/les-tetes-de-rizzuto-et-sollecito-mises-a-prix


That is interesting. I wished they would have went on about "who" was supposed to kill them. I would assume Desjardins before I would Arcadi. But who knows at this point?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: dixiemafia] #869516
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Ya I agree Dixie. It reminds me of 5 years ago when it was really hard to judge who was on what side.

In this case it's hard to say. On one hand, Arcadi was close to vito and helped run things when vito went to jail. Not to mention that he ran things with Rocco Sollecito. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that he works with the current leadership of Leonardo and Stefano Sollecito due to past connections and the fact that he, Giordano and Del Baso were still getting a cut of profits while in prison. On the other hand, he has made it known that he wants power. Maybe he wants all the power, and it was mentioned previously that he made frequent trips to Toronto which made the Sicilians uneasy. Maybe he was building alliances for this eventuality.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869575
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It does remind you of that. Who and what are attacking the Rizzuto's. Seems like another mob war of some kind is coming yet again. Against who? Nobody knows at this point.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869579
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Does anybody have a list or chart of what the two sides would be ?

For instance - Leonardo and stefano have the following key lieutenants and 20 soldiers from this area of Montreal. They control the construction industry and have video poker machines.

Arcadi has the following key lieutenants and 30 soldiers from here. They control the drug routes and loansharking.

That was all made up but if someone has the real summary that would be very interesting!

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: pmac] #869613
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Originally Posted By: pmac
One more thing. How organized is the montreal mob seems like there drug dealers with zero respect for lcn rules or so called rules. Killing people at there house in front of there wives. It's kinda cartel ish.



They're more than just drug dealers, if killing people in front of their homes shows zero respect for LCN rules, then Montreal has never been a stickler for the rules. That much is evident by how they usurped their Bonanno superiors and started to be more of their own family. American LCN rules, they probably care little for, but they've always operated like and followed similar patterns to the Sicilian Mafia. And guys have been getting killed on their doorsteps for centuries out there in the Montreal Mob.


And I don't think Raynald Desjardin's is plotting any murders right now. I know he's capable, but I don't think it's him who'd be targeting Rizzuto & Sollecito. Desjardins has his own problems with the Hells Angels and guys loyal to Mom Boucher. I think the answer is the most obvious one. And in the one of those articles which mentions a supposed plot on Rizzuto & Sollecito, they clearly state that it comes from within, meaning, it's coming from within the Montreal Mafia, not from anyone else. And it clearly said that guys were unhappy with their leadership. I'd point more towards Arcadi, Giordano & Del Balso than I would Desjardins.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Homers77] #869626
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I'd love to see what the sides look like as well, but I think it would be a guess at best at this point. I don't think it's even a given that there are only two sides.

An important starting point might be to know where the major players stood during the original attempted overthrow of the Rizzuto's.

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Sinatra club, I agree and would lean more towards the Arcadi group as well, but I wouldn't lean that way with much confidence. I think there's a lot of possibilities. To play devil's advocate, the article mentions "internal", but I don't think that necessarily excludes Desjardins. I would consider him/his group as internal as well. I'm not 100% sure, but was the old Cotroni group and DeVito's group not working with Desjardins during the initial attempted overthrow of the Rizzuto's? would they be strong enough and maybe make one last grab for power before Arcadi gets out? Probably not, but just throwing it out there.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #869663
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I don't know about the activity of Desjardin's group since he's been in prison, but at most "internal" could mean within the overall milieu and not just the Montreal Mob. When you consider that, and the fact that Desjardin's & his camp have no recent reported links with the Montreal underworld, I don't see it coming from him.

And part of the recent bust involving Leonardo Rizzuto, Stefano Sollecito & Gregory Woollery has Mom Boucher making an request for Desjardins life. Both of those men are on the inside, personally, if I were Desjardins, I'd have more important, immediate things to worry about. But you never know.

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Bail hearing set to start Monday for alleged Mafia leaders

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...-mafia-leaders/

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"Legal questions from defence jeopardize start of bail hearing for Leonardo Rizzuto and Stefano Sollecito"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...efano-sollecito

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"Alleged Mafia leader Leonardo Rizzuto faces nine new criminal charges"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...riminal-charges

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Man, Leonardo. He sure did have his hands dirty.

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All they confirmed of the nine were possession of cocaine and two unlicensed firearms, or am I missing something?

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Nah, you're not missing anything, that's all the article confirmed were those three charges.

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He was in possession of coke? Surely he wasn't that dumb?

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That's what the article said, enough to be charged with possession, but not trafficking. If you're a drug addict, then it's probably worth the risk as far as he's concerned... Or he was just excessively unlucky to be caught while using casually.

Possession in Canada doesn't really carry much of a consequence anyway. I was once caught by police with a pocket full of acid and ludes and all they did to me was stick me in the drunk tank (I hadn't even gotten high yet) and confiscate my drugs. They cut me loose the next morning without so much as a stern talking to. But I was also, like, 17 at the time and not a mafia boss, so, there's that.

(I don't do any drugs these days save for the occasional joint)

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I wonder if that drug possession charge was to make him look bad. Especially when you hold the top position whereby you have to make sound decisions and how will the elder made guys view this; or am I old fashion?

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Hard to say, but it definitely doesn't make him look good.

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According to Félix Séguin's most recent Le Journal de Montréal article, Sergio Piccirilli was informed last weekend by the Service de police de la Ville de Montréal (SPVM) that the Montreal Mafia has a murder contract out on him.

Here's the article link:

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/01/14/la-mafia-met-la-tete-dun-influent-motard-a-prix

Given Piccirilli and Salvatore Cazzetta's well-known friendship, the alliance of the Hells and mafia may be fragile at the moment--recall that Cazzetta is essentially the face of the Angels in the Montreal area if not all of Quebec.

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Hmmm, that could be interesting.

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