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Re: philly update [Re: dixiemafia] #811102
11/01/14 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: thebigfella
What makes you guys so sure merlino would have gotten clipped if he was in new york...didnt john gotti kill the don and lived to tell about it?


Merlino didn't have a power base like Gotti did. Like PB said, if some young kid tried that crap in NYC I have no doubt either he would have been popped quick.

It would be like Gotti Jr. trying to make a power play while his Dad was still a Capo and expecting to live. Just my two cents.

Right on point. Gotti had already been a captain for some years when he made his move against Castellano. And although he wasn't made until '77, he was a de facto made guy at least five years prior to that. Point being, he had more than twenty years on the street when he hit Paul.

And furthermore, contrary to the opinion of many, Paul WAS hated by a lot of guys in that family. Gotti had the ear of half of them. So sanctioned or not, Gotti had A LOT of shooters behind him.

And I wasn't even crazy about Gotti. The guy did a lot of stupid things as a boss. But as usual, this is turning into a geographical pissing match (NY, NJ, Philly, etc.). Because at the end of the day, Gotti died in prison. And I have a hunch that Merlino may do likewise. But only time will tell on that one.

Bottom line: At the time, Joey Merlino was a 20 something year old kid who only got his button because of his father (and don't get me wrong, he DID prove himself later, but that's neither here nor there). But if he hit the son of an imprisoned NY boss during that time frame (October 1989), he wouldn't have seen 1990. And that's all I'm trying to say here.

I think Belmont's "big fish-little pond" analogy is appropriate because Merlino proved himself to be a capable leader in a small family. And he's a stand-up guy who did his time like a man. When that nitwit troublemaker started a thread here calling him a rat, I was the first one to nip it in the bud. He wouldn't let things go, and he's no longer a member here.

Beyond all that, who knows? I hope the guy retires and enjoys Florida. Everyone knows how much I love it there myself smile.


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Re: philly update [Re: pizzaboy] #811111
11/01/14 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: thebigfella
What makes you guys so sure merlino would have gotten clipped if he was in new york...didnt john gotti kill the don and lived to tell about it?


Merlino didn't have a power base like Gotti did. Like PB said, if some young kid tried that crap in NYC I have no doubt either he would have been popped quick.

It would be like Gotti Jr. trying to make a power play while his Dad was still a Capo and expecting to live. Just my two cents.

Right on point. Gotti had already been a captain for some years when he made his move against Castellano. And although he wasn't made until '77, he was a de facto made guy at least five years prior to that. Point being, he had more than twenty years on the street when he hit Paul.

And furthermore, contrary to the opinion of many, Paul WAS hated by a lot of guys in that family. Gotti had the ear of half of them. So sanctioned or not, Gotti had A LOT of shooters behind him.

And I wasn't even crazy about Gotti. The guy did a lot of stupid things as a boss. But as usual, this is turning into a geographical pissing match (NY, NJ, Philly, etc.). Because at the end of the day, Gotti died in prison. And I have a hunch that Merlino may do likewise. But only time will tell on that one.

Bottom line: At the time, Joey Merlino was a 20 something year old kid who only got his button because of his father (and don't get me wrong, he DID prove himself later, but that's neither here nor there). But if he hit the son of an imprisoned NY boss during that time frame (October 1989), he wouldn't have seen 1990. And that's all I'm trying to say here.

I think Belmont's "big fish-little pond" analogy is appropriate because Merlino proved himself to be a capable leader in a small family. And he's a stand-up guy who did his time like a man. When that nitwit troublemaker started a thread here calling him a rat, I was the first one to nip it in the bud. He wouldn't let things go, and he's no longer a member here.

Beyond all that, who knows? I hope the guy retires and enjoys Florida. Everyone knows how much I love it there myself smile.

I'm not here to argue I just want to point out that when Merlino hit scarfo he wasn't made yet, he was not made while his dad was underboss he got made by Stanfa in 93 I think. Long after Chuckie was in jail and most people believe it was more of a keep your friends close and your enemies closer kind of move by Stanfa. Obviously it was a big mistake on Stanfas part.

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Re: philly update [Re: cheech] #811129
11/01/14 03:24 PM
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This is interesting.

Man in steroid scandal guilty in Xanax case.

Posted: 6:13 p.m. Friday, Oct. 31, 2014
By Jane Musgrave
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

WEST PALM BEACH —
A Boca Raton man, best known as an opportunist who played both sides in the steroid investigation of disgraced baseball great Alex Rodriguez, pleaded guilty Friday to charges unrelated to Major League Baseball’s doping scandal.

In a confident voice that rang out in the near-empty federal courtroom, Gary Lee Jones admitted he sold thousands of counterfeit Xanax pills worth as much as $30,000 to undercover officers who were investigating him and two other South Florida men earlier this year.

Jones, who served time in Connecticut for passing counterfeit money in the 1990s, also admitted that, as a felon, he shouldn’t have possessed an AK-47. According to court documents, he sold the high-powered, semi-automatic weapon to an undercover officer for $1,000.

While the two charges carry a maximum 30-year term, Jones faces less than five years in prison when he is sentenced in January.

The tall, burly 55-year-old, who remains free on a $250,000 bond, declined comment on his connection to the investigation that led to Rodriguez’s year-long suspension from baseball.

“Happy Halloween,” he called out as he left the courthouse. Then, patting his sizable stomach, he added: “Don’t eat too much candy or you’ll end up like me.”

Jones grabbed headlines two years ago when it was reported that information he provided baseball investigators led to the downfall of Rodriguez and other baseball players for using performance-enhancing drugs.

A league investigator he met at a diner in Pompano Beach paid him $125,000 in cash for documents that showed Rodriguez had been a regular customer of Biogenesis’ anti-aging clinic in Coral Gables. Jones had a buddy record the exchange with his iPhone. Jones later sold the video to the former Yankees’ third-baseman for $200,000, according to published reports.

Despite his reported payoffs, Jones is represented by a public defender. Court records don’t indicate why he qualified for a tax-paid lawyer. As part of his plea deal, Jones agreed to forfeit $7,500 and a 1991 Mercedes-Benz.

The wide-ranging investigation that led to the arrests of Jones, Frank Fiore and Anthony Carbone, another bit player in the Biogenesis scandal, ran into trouble before agents charged the three with multiple felonies for allegedly selling phony Xanax, Ecstasy, and Viagra along with cocaine and weapons. One of the undercover agents, Palm Beach County Sheriff’s investigator Joaquin Fonseca Jr., was charged with official misconduct and possession of cocaine in an unrelated case. A snitch also was arrested.

Still, as they did with Jones, prosecutors negotiated plea deals with Carbone and Fiore, court records show. The owner of Havana Nights Cigar Bar and Lounge in Boca Raton, Fiore met with well-known mobsters and asked undercover officers to kill one person and break the legs of his brother-in-law, agents said.

Fiore, 60, of Parkland, is expected to appear in court soon to officially change his plea, records show. Carbone, 55, already has pleaded guilty to two of the 17 drug distribution charges he once faced. He is to be sentenced in December.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/baseball-steroid-scandal-figure-pleads-guilty-to-s/nhxTd/

Re: philly update [Re: SonnyL] #811133
11/01/14 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: SonnyL
I'm not here to argue I just want to point out that when Merlino hit scarfo he wasn't made yet, he was not made while his dad was underboss he got made by Stanfa in 93 I think.

I understand that. But it only bolsters my argument. Because if Chuckie Merlino wasn't his father, I doubt that Joey would have survived that whole mess. And like I said, he did go on to prove himself. But that all came later.

I stand by my position: If the unmade son of a wiseguy hit the son of an imprisoned boss in New York back then (1989), he wouldn't have lived to see the new decade.


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Re: philly update [Re: carmela] #811165
11/01/14 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: carmela
You know if you say that 5 times and turn around, PB will appear in the mirror. Freaky. uhwhat

Boo!!



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Re: philly update [Re: pizzaboy] #811168
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: carmela
You know if you say that 5 times and turn around, PB will appear in the mirror. Freaky. uhwhat

Bazinga!



Re: philly update [Re: NNY78] #811182
11/01/14 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: NNY78
Originally Posted By: Southphilly4ever
Interesting new Philly mob chart

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Philadelphia_crime_family

Sorry I'm not to techy to figure out how to post the picture of the chart on here


Just a heads up, don't click on the chart itself for any reason, its got a virus attached to it according to my antivirus software.


NNY78, there should be no virus attached to that chart. That's the chart I made this summer and posted here on the forum. I don't know why your anti-virus is showing that there is a virus on the file. I created the file myself, and uploaded it to my own personal server when I posted it here in the summer. I uploaded it to the Philly family wiki on that Mafia Wiki website a few weeks ago.

Someone on the next page asked how accurate the chart is. I wasn't sure how to add multiple quotes into my reply. My answer is this - I can't represent the chart to be fully 100% accurate. I created the chart using all of the research I've done on the Philly family, and based it off of the last chart that was made in 2010/2011. Some of it, like the Narducci faction, is speculation from some of the people I've talked to from Philly; I originally never had Phil or any of that crew on the chart. The hierarchy came from one of Scott Burnstein's Mafia Insider reports. It took me quite some time to put together and create the chart and I am pretty proud of it, but nobody who makes these charts can ever claim that they are 100% accurate. A little bit of speculation always factors into it.

Anyway, here is the direct link to the file:
http://k1ng6.net46.net/philly2014chart.jpg


Last edited by K1NG6; 11/06/14 05:36 PM.
Re: philly update [Re: NNY78] #811187
11/01/14 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: NNY78
Originally Posted By: Southphilly4ever
Interesting new Philly mob chart

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Philadelphia_crime_family

Sorry I'm not to techy to figure out how to post the picture of the chart on here


Just a heads up, don't click on the chart itself for any reason, its got a virus attached to it according to my antivirus software.


The chart is also posted at the top of the forum, in the New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) thread on the very last page. I've had it up since August, and there is also a link in that thread to the file of the chart that is hosted on my own personal server if you are worried about the Mafia Wiki page showing a virus on your anti-virus software.

For the guy who posted the link and you guys who saw the chart, it will look a little bit different. I updated it yesterday and made a few changes now that Lucibello is out of prison and into a halfway house. Some people convinced me to put Sonny Mazzone as the acting capo for Staino back when I posted the chart in the summer, and there is absolutely no evidence suggesting or proving that he is a capo so I removed that and placed him back at soldier.

Re: philly update [Re: pizzaboy] #811218
11/02/14 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: SonnyL
I'm not here to argue I just want to point out that when Merlino hit scarfo he wasn't made yet, he was not made while his dad was underboss he got made by Stanfa in 93 I think.

I understand that. But it only bolsters my argument. Because if Chuckie Merlino wasn't his father, I doubt that Joey would have survived that whole mess. And like I said, he did go on to prove himself. But that all came later.

I stand by my position: If the unmade son of a wiseguy hit the son of an imprisoned boss in New York back then (1989), he wouldn't have lived to see the new decade.

I agree with your position if it happened in New York he'd be dead. But I honestly don't beleive his father played any part in keeping him alive. Chuckie didn't have any influence by then. I really think Joey just got lucky I mean they did try to hit him like a dozen times and he's still here.

I also don't beleive Tony Piccolo was gonna give George Fresolone a contract for Joey like he claimed in his book. That's guys book was so inaccurate it's almost hard to beleive he even was made that is if he didn't wear a wire when it happened. In his book he even says that Chuckie was whacked and that's why Joey shot Nicky's son.

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Re: philly update [Re: cheech] #811228
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who is this joey merlino you speak of?

Re: philly update [Re: cheech] #811271
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Do you guys think staino remained on as capo even after he denounced the family in court?


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Re: philly update [Re: thebigfella] #811273
11/02/14 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Do you guys think staino remained on as capo even after he denounced the family in court?

I don't know anything about that particular case. But as a general rule, these guys seem to acknowledge the existence of the mob in their pleas all the time nowadays.


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Re: philly update [Re: Cefalu1] #811275
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Originally Posted By: Cefalu1
who is this joey merlino you speak of?

He's an Internet troll with no life who comes here over and over and over with the sole intent of baiting old adversaries and eventually getting thrown off the site again.

Hey, you just signed up today. Welcome to the board rolleyes.


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Re: philly update [Re: SonnyL] #811279
11/02/14 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: SonnyL
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: SonnyL
I'm not here to argue I just want to point out that when Merlino hit scarfo he wasn't made yet, he was not made while his dad was underboss he got made by Stanfa in 93 I think.

I understand that. But it only bolsters my argument. Because if Chuckie Merlino wasn't his father, I doubt that Joey would have survived that whole mess. And like I said, he did go on to prove himself. But that all came later.

I stand by my position: If the unmade son of a wiseguy hit the son of an imprisoned boss in New York back then (1989), he wouldn't have lived to see the new decade.

But I honestly don't beleive his father played any part in keeping him alive. Chuckie didn't have any influence by then.
Sonny L. I also believe this.

Last edited by flamingokid123; 11/02/14 10:43 AM.
Re: philly update [Re: K1NG6] #811291
11/02/14 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: K1NG6
Originally Posted By: NNY78
Originally Posted By: Southphilly4ever
Interesting new Philly mob chart

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Philadelphia_crime_family

Sorry I'm not to techy to figure out how to post the picture of the chart on here


Just a heads up, don't click on the chart itself for any reason, its got a virus attached to it according to my antivirus software.


NNY78, there should be no virus attached to that chart. That's the chart I made this summer and posted here on the forum. I don't know why your anti-virus is showing that there is a virus on the file. I created the file myself, and uploaded it to my own personal server when I posted it here in the summer. I uploaded it to the Philly family wiki on that Mafia Wiki website a few weeks ago.

Someone on the next page asked how accurate the chart is. I wasn't sure how to add multiple quotes into my reply. My answer is this - I can't represent the chart to be fully 100% accurate. I created the chart using all of the research I've done on the Philly family, and based it off of the last chart that was made in 2010/2011. Some of it, like the Narducci faction, is speculation from some of the people I've talked to from Philly; I originally never had Phil or any of that crew on the chart. The hierarchy came from one of Scott Burnstein's Mafia Insider reports. It took me quite some time to put together and create the chart and I am pretty proud of it, but nobody who makes these charts can ever claim that they are 100% accurate. A little bit of speculation always factors into it.

Anyway, here is the direct link to the file:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140910030706/mafia/images/6/69/Philly2014chart.jpg



I was the one that asked about the accuracy of the chart. The Borgesi's spots and Narducci and his crew is where I have a couple of questions. the first being how Georgie got bumped so far down, the second is that is Anthony really made? and third is in regards to the entire Narducci crew. I thought there was question to whether or not The Narducci's were still active and when I read thru the list I noticed how many Scarfo guys are in his crew.....that seems like a dangerous move to me seeing how big of a disconnect the Merlino and Scarfo guys have. but I guess Ligambi is technically both and can probably help mediate any disputes. and thanks for the link, accurate or not its appreciated.

Last edited by Sal_Bronte; 11/02/14 12:21 PM.
Re: philly update [Re: pizzaboy] #811354
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: thebigfella
What makes you guys so sure merlino would have gotten clipped if he was in new york...didnt john gotti kill the don and lived to tell about it?


Merlino didn't have a power base like Gotti did. Like PB said, if some young kid tried that crap in NYC I have no doubt either he would have been popped quick.

It would be like Gotti Jr. trying to make a power play while his Dad was still a Capo and expecting to live. Just my two cents.

Right on point. Gotti had already been a captain for some years when he made his move against Castellano. And although he wasn't made until '77, he was a de facto made guy at least five years prior to that. Point being, he had more than twenty years on the street when he hit Paul.

And furthermore, contrary to the opinion of many, Paul WAS hated by a lot of guys in that family. Gotti had the ear of half of them. So sanctioned or not, Gotti had A LOT of shooters behind him.

And I wasn't even crazy about Gotti. The guy did a lot of stupid things as a boss. But as usual, this is turning into a geographical pissing match (NY, NJ, Philly, etc.). Because at the end of the day, Gotti died in prison. And I have a hunch that Merlino may do likewise. But only time will tell on that one.

Bottom line: At the time, Joey Merlino was a 20 something year old kid who only got his button because of his father (and don't get me wrong, he DID prove himself later, but that's neither here nor there). But if he hit the son of an imprisoned NY boss during that time frame (October 1989), he wouldn't have seen 1990. And that's all I'm trying to say here.

I think Belmont's "big fish-little pond" analogy is appropriate because Merlino proved himself to be a capable leader in a small family. And he's a stand-up guy who did his time like a man. When that nitwit troublemaker started a thread here calling him a rat, I was the first one to nip it in the bud. He wouldn't let things go, and he's no longer a member here.

Beyond all that, who knows? I hope the guy retires and enjoys Florida. Everyone knows how much I love it there myself smile.



you're a fan of axe murderers and people that shoot mac 10s in crowded restaurants?

you'd call him an idiot if he wore sagging pants while endangering innocents

Re: philly update [Re: cookcounty] #811358
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: thebigfella
What makes you guys so sure merlino would have gotten clipped if he was in new york...didnt john gotti kill the don and lived to tell about it?


Merlino didn't have a power base like Gotti did. Like PB said, if some young kid tried that crap in NYC I have no doubt either he would have been popped quick.

It would be like Gotti Jr. trying to make a power play while his Dad was still a Capo and expecting to live. Just my two cents.

Right on point. Gotti had already been a captain for some years when he made his move against Castellano. And although he wasn't made until '77, he was a de facto made guy at least five years prior to that. Point being, he had more than twenty years on the street when he hit Paul.

And furthermore, contrary to the opinion of many, Paul WAS hated by a lot of guys in that family. Gotti had the ear of half of them. So sanctioned or not, Gotti had A LOT of shooters behind him.

And I wasn't even crazy about Gotti. The guy did a lot of stupid things as a boss. But as usual, this is turning into a geographical pissing match (NY, NJ, Philly, etc.). Because at the end of the day, Gotti died in prison. And I have a hunch that Merlino may do likewise. But only time will tell on that one.

Bottom line: At the time, Joey Merlino was a 20 something year old kid who only got his button because of his father (and don't get me wrong, he DID prove himself later, but that's neither here nor there). But if he hit the son of an imprisoned NY boss during that time frame (October 1989), he wouldn't have seen 1990. And that's all I'm trying to say here.

I think Belmont's "big fish-little pond" analogy is appropriate because Merlino proved himself to be a capable leader in a small family. And he's a stand-up guy who did his time like a man. When that nitwit troublemaker started a thread here calling him a rat, I was the first one to nip it in the bud. He wouldn't let things go, and he's no longer a member here.

Beyond all that, who knows? I hope the guy retires and enjoys Florida. Everyone knows how much I love it there myself smile.



you're a fan of axe murderers and people that shoot mac 10s in crowded restaurants?

you'd call him an idiot if he wore sagging pants while endangering innocents


I misjudged you cook, i honestly thought you were a complete moron but you've somehow cracked PB's complex code and came to the conclusion that he's a "fan" of Merlino. lol lol lol

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11/02/14 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
you're a fan of axe murderers and people that shoot mac 10s in crowded restaurants?

you'd call him an idiot if he wore sagging pants while endangering innocents

I'd reply if I knew what the fuck you were babbling about, Cook.

But for the one millionth time: I don't lose a wink of sleep when murderers go to jail, whether their name ends in a vowel or not. You play you pay.

If Joey Merlino (or any New York wiseguy for that matter) dies in jail for an old murder, I couldn't care less. Karma's a bitch.


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Re: philly update [Re: K1NG6] #811453
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Originally Posted By: K1NG6
Originally Posted By: NNY78
Originally Posted By: Southphilly4ever
Interesting new Philly mob chart

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Philadelphia_crime_family

Sorry I'm not to techy to figure out how to post the picture of the chart on here


Just a heads up, don't click on the chart itself for any reason, its got a virus attached to it according to my antivirus software.




The chart is also posted at the top of the forum, in the New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) thread on the very last page. I've had it up since August, and there is also a link in that thread to the file of the chart that is hosted on my own personal server if you are worried about the Mafia Wiki page showing a virus on your anti-virus software.

For the guy who posted the link and you guys who saw the chart, it will look a little bit different. I updated it yesterday and made a few changes now that Lucibello is out of prison and into a halfway house. Some people convinced me to put Sonny Mazzone as the acting capo for Staino back when I posted the chart in the summer, and there is absolutely no evidence suggesting or proving that he is a capo so I removed that and placed him back at soldier.


Can you fill us in more on Gennaro Boccia, Martin Curro and Joe Bongiovanni? I have seen these 3 show up in numerous Philly charts over the years but very little info about all 3 on any websites, news stories or word of mouth around here.

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You literally took the words out of my mouth Southphilly. I know Bongie did a 20 years stint that began in the 80's, I believe? He's been out for awhile now, yet I've never heard his name mentioned with anything active.

Accardo did a couple years on a plea deal back during the big Merlino trial. Havent heard his name at all. I know he ran with a guy named Sharkey from Delaware County. He looked like a professional door opener for Merlino in alot of the old news clips.

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If that chart is correct its a tiny family


British is best....
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Nicky Scarfo Junior scared of Joey Merlino? Scared of his cult of personality, maybe.

Nicky would stamp on that midget if he didn't have a crew of loyal guys watching his back every waking moment.

Nicky never had that kind of pull with people.


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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Nicky Scarfo Junior scared of Joey Merlino? Scared of his cult of personality, maybe.

Nicky would stamp on that midget if he didn't have a crew of loyal guys watching his back every waking moment.

Nicky never had that kind of pull with people.

That's the name of the game. There's strength in numbers. Carlo Gambino wasn't an imposing figure either. And I'm obviously not comparing Joey to Carlo because Merlino couldn't scrape a pimple off Gambino's ass. I'm just trying to make the point that all gangs, Italian or otherwise, bully people in numbers more often than they do one-on-one.


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Long time viewer, first time poster. Based on what has come to light recently I would say this Accardo guy is not active. I know he wasn't made before the 2001 indictment and was clearly a Merlino "guy". He even lived on Merlino's block on Hartranft Street. That makes me think he is strictly a a Merlino loyalist and thus why we didn't hear about him in the Ligambi indictment even though he was at least 6 year out of the can. Most of the Merlino guys seem to be laying low, all things considered, and waiting for either Joey to get off supervision, or some other leadership development we aren't privy to. That being said he could have been made upon being released from jail in 2005... TJ is right the regarding him being a driver/bodyguard and sometime enforcer for merlino back in the 90s. Maybe he was the Ray Wagner of the 90s? Hah

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There was a report that said alot of merlino guys wasn't eating while merlino was away and thier very happy now that he's out


"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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Merlinos opens saturday night in Boca, Im sure joey will be fired up for the opening before he has to head down south and report

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Originally Posted By: merlino
Merlinos opens saturday night in Boca, Im sure joey will be fired up for the opening before he has to head down south and report

I'm sure the socialites up in Palm Beach will be waiting with bated breath whistle.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Cefalu1
who is this joey merlino you speak of?

He's an Internet troll with no life who comes here over and over and over with the sole intent of baiting old adversaries and eventually getting thrown off the site again.

Hey, you just signed up today. Welcome to the board rolleyes.


PB, you are way out of line.

He has a 1 after the name Cefalu, indicating his position as boss.

It could be the real Cefalu. People like you running off legitimate wiseguys is why made guys dont post here anymore!

whistle

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Originally Posted By: K1NG6
Originally Posted By: NNY78
Originally Posted By: Southphilly4ever
Interesting new Philly mob chart

http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Philadelphia_crime_family

Sorry I'm not to techy to figure out how to post the picture of the chart on here


Just a heads up, don't click on the chart itself for any reason, its got a virus attached to it according to my antivirus software.


NNY78, there should be no virus attached to that chart. That's the chart I made this summer and posted here on the forum. I don't know why your anti-virus is showing that there is a virus on the file. I created the file myself, and uploaded it to my own personal server when I posted it here in the summer. I uploaded it to the Philly family wiki on that Mafia Wiki website a few weeks ago.

Someone on the next page asked how accurate the chart is. I wasn't sure how to add multiple quotes into my reply. My answer is this - I can't represent the chart to be fully 100% accurate. I created the chart using all of the research I've done on the Philly family, and based it off of the last chart that was made in 2010/2011. Some of it, like the Narducci faction, is speculation from some of the people I've talked to from Philly; I originally never had Phil or any of that crew on the chart. The hierarchy came from one of Scott Burnstein's Mafia Insider reports. It took me quite some time to put together and create the chart and I am pretty proud of it, but nobody who makes these charts can ever claim that they are 100% accurate. A little bit of speculation always factors into it.

Anyway, here is the direct link to the file:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140910030706/mafia/images/6/69/Philly2014chart.jpg



Excellent chart.

Good job.

Re: philly update [Re: pizzaboy] #811634
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Merlinos opens saturday night in Boca, Im sure joey will be fired up for the opening before he has to head down south and report

I'm sure the socialites up in Palm Beach will be waiting with bated breath whistle.


What a bunch of hypocrites. I bet he has hillybilly sheriffs deputies that are secretly his fan boys after having had to do their Homework and read a book or two that mentions the myths that make the man....

smile

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