The judge will use it as a point of reference. Keep in mind, Angelina pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy, extortion and operating video-poker machines while Moussie was only found guilty of racketeering conspiracy.

I agree, if you let people know you are balling it big, you get a bullet in your head and someone takes over your businesses.

I think guys like Uncle Joe would hang it up if they were only making $5-10k a month, more like $20-30K..

5 to 10k a month you might as well work a legit job where every time someone knocks at your front door your not wondering if this is the big pinch. If Ligambi wasn't bring in at least 500k a year then he should of lit a fire under his guys and told them to start bringing in some real money. Maybe send some extra tax collectors back to the street to shake down the guys who are making out. Even 500k for a mob boss seems embarrassingly low to me. I guess thats the current reality though.

I think 500K a year is decent for any boss outside NYC.

Ligambi had to of been making at least 750k and up to a million.

Plus the perks that probably go with it.I would guess that Uncle Joe gets some pretty good deals on things.

Obviously it's impossible to get an exact figure. However, we do know a few things. JMA was estimated to be grossing at least $1 million a year. But it could have been two or three times that. Figuring conservatively, after the standard 50/50 split with the business owners, that would conceivably leave $500k to be split between Ligambi, Massimino, and Staino. One assumes Ligambi got the biggest cut. He also had his $50k a year no-show job with Top Job disposal, as well as interests in real estate and a towing company. And, of course, there's whatever tribute he received, as boss, from family members and associates.

I would be extremely surprised if he made more than half a mil. And he was greedy as fuck. He collected a point on every shy loan in philly! He made a lot of guys angry! You have 50k on the street, and your barely getting by, your captain bankrolled it all for a point and u keep 50k a year, pass up 25. Now uncle joe wants 1%? He got that on EVERYBODY. Captains to associates like Louis Monacello. He stole money from borgesi, who is his relative somehow. While he was in prison! Hes a greedy fuck who obviously didnt have much to begin with. In comparison, idk how hes doing now but Joey Merlino paid millions out of pocket for his and his crews legal defense.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/crime...r-mobsters.html

Sentencings delayed for Mousie, others in mob case

John P. Martin
June 4, 2013

Mousie must wait another month for Judgment Day.

For the second time in a month, a federal judge has rescheduled the sentencing hearing for Joseph "Mousie" Massimino, the reputed underboss of the Philadelphia mob. Massimino, 63, was scheduled to be sentenced on racketeering conspiracy charges this Wednesday, but U.S. District Judge Eduardo Robreno has pushed the hearing back until July 11.

As we reported here last week, Massimino's lawyer believes he deserves less than six years in prison after being convicted in the marathon trial that ended with mixed verdicts earlier this year. Prosecutors have yet to publicly file their sentencing memo, but are expected to argue for well more than a decade in prison, especially given Massimino's long criminal history.

Robreno also rescheduled the sentencing hearings of the only two other defendants jurors convicted of the conspiracy. Reputed mob associate Gary Battaligni is set to be sentenced on July 12. Alleged soldier Damion Canalichio will follow four days later, on July 16.

Reputed mob boss Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and his nephew and alleged capo, George "Georgie" Borgesi, are still on track for an October retrial after the jury deadlocked on the conspiracy charge against them.

I just read a news item I must have missed.Ligambi's lawyer is now considered court-appointed and the judge agreed to that so now the taxpayers are basically paying for his defense.I love the lawyer says ''my client went broke''and I don't want to leave him hanging.That's a good one but I guess its easy to prove your broke because its a cash business,so there's nothing on the books or in your name.

What is Georges role considering he never did walk out like he was suppose to. Didn't GA have him listed as congsig? Did he get demoted to Capo?

same lawyer as before?

Yes Cheech,Edwin Jacobs he's one of the best I think

He was acting consigliere at one time. He's currently a captain.

Robreno is going to stick it up Massiminos ass. This is the same judge who wouldent grant Borgesi bail after he beat a conspiracy trial AFTER he already did 11 years. Same guy who wouldent let Ligambi out AFTER he beats the case. For a guy like Massimino who admitted guilt? Get the fuck outta here; Massimino better bend over and lube up. Im thinking 10 years at a minimum.

Plus the fact it is all the respect factor..in the middle of the court he said get my martini ready were coming home...The article was funny everyone here saw it.. And it says everyone in court heard him.. I mean Comeon mannn keep your mouth shut..Just shows some of these guys are punks..

Yea Im thinking Dame and Mousie are gonna be depressed come July!

Fuck respect for the court. Guys gonna get 10 years for video poker machines. Why? Because its immoral? Funny, I didn't hear all this talk of immorality when they are raking in huge tax dollars from state sponsored casinos. Its about the money. They want their [BadWord], the Gov is just another Capo in the structure looking for their piece.

agree vinnie

This

Somebody please comment on the building collapsing in center city... wtf?? I know this sounds awful but hopefully it will stimulate the economy and people will finish up construction projects more efficiently.

I read the building was owned by a Richard Basciano who is or was a big porn guy in NYC and he also has been id'd as an associate of the Gambinos in the past.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20130606_New_York_developer_owner_of_collapsed_building.html

Yea I said earlier I didn't agree wit lagambi an mousie scaring tony the poker machine guy into selling low.. kinda not right....but ten years is way too much time..But the only place in the world you gotta be PC is the court room.. In case you haven't noticed my name is marine ..yea this grunt seen many court rooms in his time im far from PC.. And Guess what the guy Gaton luchebelo who pled guilty and was honest done 2 years already.. and probally only got a 1.5-2yrs left good time...

ridiculous amount of time for that. A couple grand fine and two weeks, like old NYC

At marine. First let me say I wasn't meaning to disrespect you, it's just my frustration with the situation. I mean, what other criminals in the us are treated like this? It's poker machines! I'm not saying they are good guys, but if they were black, Russian, puerto or Irish they would be getting half the time; u know it and i know it. But when you throw a vowel on the end of a guys name you multiply the time by 3 or 4. It's annoying and blatantly discriminatory, and I'm not just saying that because I'm half Italian.

Gaeton got less time because its his first felony. Yes, partially because he pled it out, but also because its his first. They are going to hammer massimino because he's a "career offender", meanwhile you got child enslavement rapists getting to post bond on there own recognizance.

they said the guy who was working on destruction of the building was high on marijuana... loll! yeah big surprise... and the missing middle eastern/Indian man...did they finally find him under a pile of adult videos??

Feds want Joseph "Mousie" Massimino and Damion Canalichio sentenced to 17 to 21 years each.

full article @ http://www.bigtrial.net/2013/06/mobsters-battle-as-sentencings-retrial.html

From the article :

"Mobsters Joseph "Mousie" Massimino and Damion Canalichio have to wait at least another month before finding out their fate, but the convicted wiseguys are going to go down swinging.

"Lawyers for both Philadelphia crime figures have filed motions challenging pre-sentence reports that suggest each should be sentenced to from 17 to 21 years in prison for their February convictions on racketeering conspiracy charges. Their lawyers argue the guidelines should be in the four- to six-year range."

"Their sentencings, postponed for a second time, are now scheduled for July."

God i swear to god Mousie looks EXACTLY like my dad, its so fuckin weird

For Poker Machines.

What. A. Joke.