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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: tommykarate] #677313
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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
He wasn't italian.they say it in either murder machine or cassos book.im pretty sure he couldn't b made
Senter was of Italian descent; misspelling of his name somewhere along the line. Senter/Senta


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: tommykarate] #677719
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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
He wasn't italian.they say it in either murder machine or cassos book.im pretty sure he couldn't b made


Im pretty sure he was 100% Italian. I kno its been talked about here before but couldn't find the thread. Can someone confirm this? Maybe Hairy Knuckles or Pizza Boy?

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: ace123] #677745
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Originally Posted By: ace123
Originally Posted By: tommykarate
He wasn't italian.they say it in either murder machine or cassos book.im pretty sure he couldn't b made


Im pretty sure he was 100% Italian. I kno its been talked about here before but couldn't find the thread. Can someone confirm this? Maybe Hairy Knuckles or Pizza Boy?


I think you are right. Senter is not a common Italian name, but you can find it among the northern Italian population, especially in the Trantino province bordering Austria.
It is very much possible, but I canīt confirm it, that Senterīs mother was of southern Italian origin which allowed him entrance into the Mafia as a made guy.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #677811
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Thats what I thought thanks HK

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: HairyKnuckles] #696778
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
Lately, I have been exchanging emails with a son of a made guy who passed away in the 1980s. He recently told me about a friend of his fatherīs (this friend was also a made member) who was killed in the 1950s.
I have promised not to mention any names, so I will not do that. But this story is powerful so I thought Iīll share it with you.

"My father had told me a story of a guy being killed, shortly after being made, for breaking one of the rules. Over the years, I got a few more details. After he was killed, his wife moved into our building, or maybe she was already neighbor and my family did not know her. Anyway, my mother and her became friendly, both being mothers with children in the same playground, and being neighbors. The wife said that in weeks before he was killed, he had set up a small religious shrine, and the night he went out and got killed, he was on his knees praying to it before leaving. He would not tell her what was the matter. But somehow he had a feeling that he was going to get killed."


That is pretty interesting. The mindset was totally different just a little bit further back in time. Solid, resolved to their organization.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: fergie] #696880
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Originally Posted By: fergie
Possibly....although there were a fair share of killers in the Gotti crew - the Carneglias, Willie Boy, Gravano etc and you'd have to work on the assumption that the demeo crew would risk an unsanctioned hit on Gotti just to avenge demeo's murder.

I reckon it was more of a hidden lack of willingness to do Castellano any favours - if Gotti could get out of any situation which might help Castellano, he would've at that point. Remember, Castellano wanted Demeo dead incase he turned infomant, so what's Gotti to gain in carrying out the hit if he could avoid it?



Not trying to souund like a know it all.. because im not but Gravano wasnt in gotti's crew. Sammy was in toddo aurello's crew.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #696889
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sorry i already said that... lol i didnt realize this was a old post .... forgive me


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #701885
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This is a tough one... I think overall Capeci's record is much better than Carlo's for getting it right.

I also "like" the Nino theory; Roy was paranoid, had a feeling he'd be whacked. I could see him hooking up with Nino in those final days... He knew what his own crew was capable of -- after all, he had taught them...

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #701936
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Senter is an Italian name it's not extremely common but there are indeed Italian last names that don't end in vowels and not meaning the people who had it taken off. Like HN said its names like Senter for example, or DeAngelis that can be found more in the northern regional area of Italy. Good example:Furio Junter

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #701938
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Speaking of Senters, anyone know whatever became of Robert Senter, the guy that killed Manny Gambino? Is he still alive? I know they tried to poison him in prison once but thats pretty much the last i heard of him.

I read he was born in 1936 so if he's still alive he has to be 76 or 77 now.

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: southend] #701942
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Originally Posted By: southend
Senter is an Italian name it's not extremely common but there are indeed Italian last names that don't end in vowels and not meaning the people who had it taken off. Like HN said its names like Senter for example, or DeAngelis that can be found more in the northern regional area of Italy. Good example:Furio Junter

You make a great point about not all Italian names ending a vowel, Southend. Like you say, it's not just the ones that are shortened, either. I know a whole clan of DeRobertises who still use that name in the Basilicata region. In America such a name might have become Roberts way back when.

But you picked a poor example to demonstate your point. Furio's last name was Giunta: http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0011350/.

Unless you were making a joke. In which case I completely appreciate the sarcasm lol.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: southend] #701944
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Originally Posted By: southend
Senter is an Italian name it's not extremely common but there are indeed Italian last names that don't end in vowels and not meaning the people who had it taken off. Like HN said its names like Senter for example, or DeAngelis that can be found more in the northern regional area of Italy. Good example:Furio Junter

Do you mean Furio Giunta? Junter, LOL lol

No disrespect but that was funny.

Edit: Pizzaboy caught me first!

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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: LCN1987] #701945
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^^^^
I caught that, too. Read the post above yours, LCN smile.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: pizzaboy] #701948
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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I caught that, too. Read the post above yours, LCN smile.

Yeah, I saw your reply after I had replied. I do however remember hearing someone on the show pronounce it "Junter". Remember when that woman ( a real estate agent?) told Carmela that Furio's house just went up for sale? She says: "Junter, Junta, is that how you say it?". Funny indeed smile

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #701979
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My point was the difference between his name being pronounced with an R or spelt with an R. I don't know who said it but Senter's last name was never Senta.

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Also Tony DelSanter. Former Cleveland underboss

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #702076
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desantis is also a name that was changed

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: Feech_La_Manna85] #773688
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Originally Posted By: Feech_La_Manna85
I know Joey was made but did Senter get made also??


The Gemini Twins took the contract issued by Gaspipe then they whacked Roy. As part of the deal Casso reassured Joey Testa that both he and Anthony Senter would both be "straightened out" and released from the Gambino family. They were officially inducted into the Lucchese borgata by Vic Amuso. Al D'Arco, a captain soon to be named the acting boss of the family at that particular time said that Joey & Anthony participated in the same ceremony where his own son was made that same day. He revealed this info in his autobiography.

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #773693
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I wonder how theY handled it. Obviously, they did not have a choice. But I wonder if there was any guilt? You wack a guy who brought you into the Mob, showed them how to be killers, took them on camping trips, and barbecue. I just wonder the mindset, these guys murdered countless people together, and then there Roy is dead on the floor. having to carry his body out and everything? I would think there would be some sort of sadness? Maybe im wrong, but typically during a murder, when someone covers victim up, it is evidence of shame or guilt. According to the FBI profilers.

I wonder if that would apply to this case, with them putting the chandelier on top of roys corpes. It possibly might be a sign of shame. Why else would they do that?

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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #773723
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Gaggi was a capo. Usually capi isolate themselves from murders and they let soldiers do it. I found it very hard to believe that he did it himself.

Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: FEECHLAMANA11] #773727
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Gaggi was involved in the Eppolito hit and the hit in a hotel room where they had to amscray in the middle of beheading someone because there were construction workers outside - forget the specifics.

And... he also tried to kill a cop.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: Nick_the_Greek] #808903
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In any case, Al DeMeo said that Roy left all his jewelry and wallet ( I think??) the day he went. I'm not sure it would have mattered if Nino was there or not; he just had to know that whatever he was set to do that day, could likely be his last. I recall reading somewhere that Tony Spilotro did something similar?


Here's my 2 cents.

Why would Demeo take off his jewelry and leave his wallet behind unless he was summoned by a superior (Nino)? It had to be Nino.

It's hard to imagine Demeo leaving behind jewelry and his wallet just to meet up with the Gemini twins for the umpteenth time, or to meet someone outside of the Gambino family for coffee.

What it looks like is that Nino summoned Roy to a meeting to "talk things over". They served him coffee, and then Nino whacked him on Paul's orders. The Twins finished him off to show allegiance.


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Re: Roy DeMeo's death [Re: Ivan] #808909
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Originally Posted By: Ivan
What page is this DeMeo on in the paperback version of Casso's book? Damn thing doesn't have an index, and I don't feel like going through it page by page to find it.

thanks in advance
ivan, the murder machine version of demeos murder can be found on page 358. the author [ jerry capeci ] feels his original source is most assuredly correct, he was recently questioned about his sources for all of the book. and his response was { my sources are impeccable] nino gaggi killed roy demeo, as page 358 of murder machine clearly states.



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Binnie, it's interesting that no one has considered the possibility that Casso was engaging in embellishment and self aggrandizement of his criminal career in taking credit for the killing of Roy DeMeo.

It is possible that this is exactly what Casso did.


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its not only possible, but, undoubtably true.



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