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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660026
08/13/12 07:06 PM
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Johnny Sonny Castagna was a made guy, both he and his son would later turn informant.


John "Sonny" Castagna, was a Providence, Rhode Island mobster who became a made man in the Patriarca crime family, whose control extended throughout New England for over three decades. Castagna was a respected man among the mafia, (Cosa Nostra) and he was known across New England as a man of honour until he broke the mafias code of silence by ratting out fellow members of the Patriarca crime family in the early 1990s.

Castagna was one of the 21 alleged members and associates of the Patriarca crime family indicted in March 1990. A sweeping Federal indictment charged various defendants with gambling, loan-sharking and murder to support the crime family, which is based in Providence, R.I. Castagna was facing a lengthy jail sentence and became a government informer in 1990. He revealed in court that a weeping Raymond Patriarca was warned during a late 1989 meeting in Boston that he would be killed if he didn’t step down. Presiding over that meeting was Joseph Russo with Robert Carrozza also in attendance.

http://la-mafia.wikidot.com/john-castagna

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660028
08/13/12 07:10 PM
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When the RICO trials from the March 1990 indictments finally got underway, John F. "Sonny" Castagna, a former member of the Patriarca family, now turned government witness, revealed that Junior Patriarca would be killed by Boston mobsters if he did not step down. Castagna, testifying in May 1991, said the story was relayed to him by J. R. Russo.

"Raymond Junior had tears in his eyes and he was begging for his life," Castagna quoted Russo as saying.

The testimony took place during the Hartford trial which included defendant Gaetano Milano, who Castagna, now in the Federal Witness Protection Program with his son Jack Johns, claimed murdered William Grasso.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/gangsters_outlaws/family_epics/providence_mob/7.html


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660032
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Dapper_Don, First of all as i said before you are all jealous of Ray Jr. I am tired of reading about men that go away and are doing their time and being knocked by Rats!!!!!!! like Castagna, and Bobby Deluca the real rats. Like i said before get your facts right Castagna comes from ct and wouldn't even know how to get to Rhode Island.

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660037
08/13/12 08:47 PM
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^^^Jealous of Ray Jr? LOL, hardly.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Patriarca [Re: little33] #660041
08/13/12 10:34 PM
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It was also confiemed bu sonny mercurio and thats why wild boy grasso fot wacked in the first place these are the facts junior got to greedy and was dumb underboss didnt let the solderis louis failla and that crew report to its capo so when jr russo and bianco ferrara found out it was wack tjem and we take over and thats when grasso got wacked and salemme got shot a few went into hiding and thats when russo wenr ro got to get the ok to wack junior unless he makes things straight and thats change the administration and.make new guys ...sonny f being a rep from ct bianco the rep from r.i. Amd russo at the meeting ..boanco became boss russo consiglere


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660042
08/13/12 10:45 PM
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Ferrara or biago digacoma became underboss not sure and the four new made guys in their favor thats what happened go read some books or talk to some connected old timers in the rackets and u might learn a tbing a two cause and providence people are f
Great to me fogitaboutit its just the goys I knoe like he always tell me hey kid its either in your blood or not this aint the fuckin movies kid I love when he tells me that lmaool


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: little33] #660075
08/14/12 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: little33
Joerusso, I think that's your problem you read to many book's. Joerusso you should learn how to spell. By the way did you ever go to school?


little.... behave yourself or your stay here will be short.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660076
08/14/12 09:17 AM
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SC, I always behave!!!!!!!! if my stay here will be short for writing the truth then that means people just don't want to here the truth about certain people. SC i think smart people that have love one in the news all the time they know how the news media is. Thank you very much from New England

Re: Patriarca [Re: little33] #660077
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Originally Posted By: little33
SC, I always behave!!!!!!!! if my stay here will be short for writing the truth then that means people just don't want to here the truth about certain people. SC i think smart people that have love one in the news all the time they know how the news media is. Thank you very much from New England


You will not be allowed to insult other members. There is no flaming allowed here.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660078
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SC, I don't think that i am insulting any members on the board.SC i am only saying the truth SC can you really say that you trust everything that is in the news. The news reporter know that certain people they write about will sell papers.

Re: Patriarca [Re: little33] #660079
08/14/12 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: little33
SC, I don't think that i am insulting any members on the board.


I'm not going to argue the point with you because you obviously don't understand what an insult is. But when you write something like:

Originally Posted By: little33
Joerusso, I think that's your problem you read to many book's. Joerusso you should learn how to spell. By the way did you ever go to school?


that is an insult.

Consider yourself warned!


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660081
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SC, I was writing to joerusso not you so would you rather me show you my post before i post it? SC i didn't know any member had to go through you before they post what they feel.

Re: Patriarca [Re: little33] #660083
08/14/12 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: little33
SC, I was writing to joerusso not you so would you rather me show you my post before i post it? SC i didn't know any member had to go through you before they post what they feel.


My job here is to prevent flaming wars. Just follow the board rules and you'll be OK. If not, and you want to continue being a smartass by arguing this, then you won't be allowed to post at all.

The choice is yours.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660084
08/14/12 10:03 AM
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Little u seem 2 b. A guy with a lot of knowledge and I enjoy reading yur post . Here is some advice stop arguing with SC or u will b banned . Ihave seen it B4.

Now on a new topic what's up in prov these days . That st bust seemed to take a lot of the Big name guys off the street ??

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660085
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Thebarber, Thank you for the advice, but i am not arguing with anyone on this board all i am trying to say is get the facts straight about Ray jr and other certain people that they write about that is not true. Thebarber yes there were alot of big name guys taken off the street but all i can say is that they should of know better and stay away from Bobby Deluca and they would all be home now with there family's. This is what make me mad the members on this board they want to talked about Ray jr and other certain people it is not right. If anything talk about Bobby Deluca and what he has done he destroy people's life and there familys

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660087
08/14/12 11:06 AM
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Little take it from SC he is a man of the people he gives away turkeys during the holidays and feeds the homeless. He's been a father-figure and counselor for many mislead individuals on these boards, as well as the streets I'd compare him to Bruce Wayne.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660090
08/14/12 11:18 AM
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HAHA Dicknose!

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660093
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Scarfo you like my new avator it's starting to creep me out but it was easy to upload lol


Random Poster:"I'm sorry I didn't go to an Ivy-league school like you"

"Ah I actually I didn't. It's a nickname the feds gave the
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Re: Patriarca [Re: SC] #660094
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SC, I deleted my post about joerusso, I should of never said that

Re: Patriarca [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #660096
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Scarfo you like my new avator it's starting to creep me out but it was easy to upload lol


haha yeah Rosenberg

Re: Patriarca [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #660098
08/14/12 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Scarfo you like my new avator it's starting to creep me out


You should have Donald Duck, or Mickey Mouse, as your avatar, Dickie. Just sayen... smile


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Re: Patriarca [Re: HairyKnuckles] #660099
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Originally Posted By: HairyKnuckles
Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Scarfo you like my new avator it's starting to creep me out


You should have Donald Duck, or Mickey Mouse, as your avatar, Dickie. Just sayen... smile


HK actually I'd like to have the Kool-Aid Man as my avator


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Re: Patriarca [Re: little33] #660108
08/14/12 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: little33
SC, I deleted my post about joerusso, I should of never said that


Thank you.

I'm just trying to keep some peace here.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660136
08/14/12 04:22 PM
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Barber the providence streets is just real careful thats all see that whole r.i crowd is small but furious from what I heard the active guys are keeping things quiet I heard things changed big ime eveeywhere but real bad as far as numbers go my uncle says back in the day for old man ray a hundred guys step up for old man ray guys u never see at meetings sit downs whatever all italians from r.i with a thoisand wacks under their belts now he saids its as bad as the irish lol ( half joke half insult my uncle hates the irish no offense to anyone but its cause whitey)long story


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660137
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Sc the insults dont worry me man where not on the streets and not disclosing personal info as far as your ties connections etc you know to me its good fun and learning with constructive conversations and topics cause if it was a real life in the streets thing not only as this whole thing of open talk would happen but those with ties or etc wouldve got wacked a while ago for tjat fugazy stuff and that being said I just want to enjoy particapate and follow the RULES like a good member would do thanks for the time consliegeri


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #660168
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Whats up everybody. I found this forum a few months ago and I really enjoying readind alot of the stuff on here. that being said i have to agree with little. I dont think anybody is jealous of ray jr but the guy is stand up. He did his time came home kept his nose clean. Delcuca and rosseti got out by giving up there friends.

Re: Patriarca [Re: Bostongeorge] #660172
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Heu boston george nice name but no is diagreeing hes not a stand up guy for doing his time and keepi.g mouth shut nose clean the point that is trying to be made is as a boss he was one of the worst in history and one of the biggest reasons for the family fall that being said he still didnt roll but sure fucked things up though big time


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Hello everybody did you all have your coffee?

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New guys in providence?? Good looking Matty likened the "new guys" to whores on the corner..."stand around long enough and we'll use you". I'm pretty sure if your uncle us an old timer he isn't giving up info. The patriaca family is no thriving organization-it's getting battered by Feds, rats and drugs.


"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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From what I know, Ray JR would've never been Boss if it wasnt for Illario Zannino(aka Larry Baiona) who ever Zannino backed was gonna get the nod, he(Zannino)was a throw back guy and had alot of good friends in NY... Gennaro Angiulo(who paid his way to become a "made" man was a heavy earner and up for Boss but he was not respected as much as Ray JR who had the blessing of Zannino and the NY hierarchy, I mean Angiulo never made his bones he used money as a means to get "made"....

Crazy how there is never no mention of guys from the North End of Providence, RI--like Eddie Romano, Ronnie Cappola, Minnie Ruggerio, etc etc...

For as of right now, there is no word on any titles..... Wish I knew seriously..


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