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ms13 on long island #650085
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...ong-island.html
Pretty good article. They seem to be the dominant gang on long island.

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Growing up an living on long island, I can truly say that this gang is as brutal as they come. I remember shopping in Roosevelt Field Mall and seeing an MS13 member walking through the mall throwing up gang signs and singing some song all the while wearing blue and white from head to toe, tats all over. Unsettling to say the least. They used to turn Huntington Station into their own private Normandy beach. Truly evil incarnate on earth with no concept of or regard for human life. LCN has had its characters that are just as evil and twisted but there is something so primal and senseless about MS13 and other gang related violence that it's just in another category in my opinion. (then again I'm sure the victims of Sam Defestano, Roy DeMeo and Tommy DeSimone would disagree)


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Truth is, Brentwood and Central Islip have been quiet in 2012 by comparison.

Hispanic immigrants have transformed Long Island in the last 10 years. America is becoming like Paris, where the elite will live in the city, and the high crime minority neighborhoods are in the outskirts and burbs.

These people are a threat to a national security.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Truth is, Brentwood and Central Islip have been quiet in 2012 by comparison.

Hispanic immigrants have transformed Long Island in the last 10 years. America is becoming like Paris, where the elite will live in the city, and the high crime minority neighborhoods are in the outskirts and burbs.

These people are a threat to a national security.


America (at least NYC) has been like that for many years already...just not as bad as it was in the past.


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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Hispanic immigrants have transformed Long Island in the last 10 years. America is becoming like Paris, where the elite will live in the city, and the high crime minority neighborhoods are in the outskirts and burbs.


The opposite of urban decay and big city crime from the 70's and 80's, right?


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Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Hispanic immigrants have transformed Long Island in the last 10 years. America is becoming like Paris, where the elite will live in the city, and the high crime minority neighborhoods are in the outskirts and burbs.


The opposite of urban decay and big city crime from the 70's and 80's, right?


EXACTLY!!! So many working class families fled Queens and Brooklyn for Long Island in the 70's and 80's. Now their kids live in a 1BR in LIC or Williamsburg while their parents stay in Suffolk and deal with the filth.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Originally Posted By: Nicholas
Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Hispanic immigrants have transformed Long Island in the last 10 years. America is becoming like Paris, where the elite will live in the city, and the high crime minority neighborhoods are in the outskirts and burbs.


The opposite of urban decay and big city crime from the 70's and 80's, right?


EXACTLY!!! So many working class families fled Queens and Brooklyn for Long Island in the 70's and 80's. Now their kids live in a 1BR in LIC or Williamsburg while their parents stay in Suffolk and deal with the filth.



I would love a 1BR in LIC or Williamsburg...


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Long Island MS-13 boss who ordered murder of 15-year-old sentenced to 24 years to life in prison http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profil...o-ordered-murder-of-15-year-old-sentence


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Re: ms13 on long island [Re: Scorsese] #986163
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You just cannot let this trash come into our country. Second, we need to toughen up and fight fire with fire. We are half the problem, we let it happen.
This is what happens when americans want to play the nice, compassionate person. Be nice, just dont be stupid.

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Come on, they're just a bunch of dreamers, coming here to do the work americans wont do...Isn't that the BS politicians tell us ?? Meanwhile they've become an uncontrollable menace who kill our sons and rape our daughters...Great job Washington and NY !!

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MS13 is absolutely terrible, I’ve met a few and they’re crazy. They got nothing to lose, have no remorse for human life. Most of them are illegally here but some are born here and just follow the wrong path. When they see the money and the girls the other gang members have, they’re drawn to it and start hanging out with the gang members until they’re asked to do work for them but by then, it’s already too late. They build you to have a lot of anger towards rival gang members or victims in general. Those “13” seconds they do to jump you in it’s just the start of your transformation to become a murderer who’ll stab anyone to death & their loved one to death because your local shot caller received command from some imprisoned Salvadoran Criminals that you’ll never meet in your life.

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Re: ms13 on long island [Re: Scorsese] #986327
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That trash needs to be permanantly exiled from our country. When you have immigrants coming into this country who want to work, trash like this come’s in with those others and no one really knows who the good guys amd bad guys are. Thats why we need a damn wall.

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A wall is stopping nothing lol

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Illegal immigration won’t stop as long as they are big contributors to businesses and the overall economy.

The massive Latin America immigration in the 90s and early 2000s were a boom for the economy and saved a lot of cities and accelerated our GDP growth.

Yes I am aware that a small portion of them are trash like MS-13 but their population / productivity as a whole increase our standard of living and wealth . As along as that trend holds ( it has since the beginning of America ), it ain’t stopping . It’s a luxury we have that many other countries don’t.

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They make it sound like we are surrounded and they are rampant round the towns, they are not.

They lurk in shadows, hide within everyday motions of service employment and factories, disrupting only the ranks of their own, keeping them limited to exposure and growth.
In a nut shell, they are young, Dumb and unorganized.


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“Young, dumb, and disorganized”
Thats why they are dangerous. Put a low IQ person around a weapon and there will be destruction.

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Originally Posted by Lenox
“Young, dumb, and disorganized”
Thats why they are dangerous. Put a low IQ person around a weapon and there will be destruction.


That is a person of every city in America and around the world you mention.

I am saying as an Organized group of A-Holes and youth in my area, ( all Hispanic gangs / other than Latin Kings) - these guys are like tomato, olives or potato and easily crushed.


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Originally Posted by DuesPaid
Originally Posted by Lenox
“Young, dumb, and disorganized”
Thats why they are dangerous. Put a low IQ person around a weapon and there will be destruction.


That is a person of every city in America and around the world you mention.

I am saying as an Organized group of A-Holes and youth in my area, ( all Hispanic gangs / other than Latin Kings) - these guys are like tomato, olives or potato and easily crushed.

Yeah but they have a huge pool of recruitment in local high schools/middle schools.

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Long island is probably second to only Staten Island in mob activity and gang culture is a regular thing. Living in Rockaway and all over Long Island my whole life i can tell you from first hand knowledge. Every town has its own issues/gangs and there are a lot of towns on long Island. The major gangs are all here and powerful versions. Before the springfield, Mass Latin Kings east coast boss bust the east coast boss resided in Huntington Station, L.I. After the feds swept the Kings out of H.S its an understatement to say its MS territory. MS does without a doubt fill the void left by any gang in any neighborhood it seems. But MS definitely has its rivals but what's scary is how fast there growing power in the jails. In Central Islip, a notoriously black gang area compared to Brentwood (its neighbor) which has always been spanish gang territory, it's now dominate. The bloods are there biggest rivalry but they want no part of MS, to violent, they will kill you. My friend told me a pretty intimidating story about the Notorious Brentwood MS and i can tell you that if you have an issue with MS, even a young member over anything...he is going to report it and it is immediately investigated and action taken if your in the wrong towards even its lowest ranking members. I mean tons of wanna be are coming to mess you up and you better be gone and not be recognized or have them know anything about you. As they grow in power and $$ there finding ways to find out about you and that's got long island shook up. They are like the early Sicilians in America im guessing (clannish, untrusting towards other ethnicities, never show emotion). I worked at the brentwood market 22 yrs ago when the wave of a Salvadorans to Brentwood was getting started and unlike Mexicans who truly flooded Long Island (Farmingville) and for the most part are hard working, good natured people, the Salvadorans were mean and shady at first. They called me in America, my home country, "Americana" in a dickhead way. Ofcourse they only did this when in groups because alone they didn't speak or dare to smile. But in groups they are like piranha and dangerous. The silent owner in the market R.I.P and my ex girls pops a notorious Italian fellow during a walk through the establishment with me one day happen to take issue with the state downs and shadyness of one imparticular Salvadoran. The man was then introduced to Mr. Milk-crate off the top of the head and that for the time set an example for the rest of them before they were organized. But nowadays that would NOT fly.

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I also think that salvadorans have a defect in their brains. Im serious. I never heard of a great savadoran inventor..lol
Serious, low IQ is an understatement.

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I agree DuesPaid , MS hasn’t committed a LI murder since 2017

They are no doubt a problem but media pumps us up on the fear factor to drive ratings and politicians will use them for a political reason.

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Speaking of Strong Island, does anybody miss Neptunes. I was only there a few times. Great spot.

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Neptunes was a late 90’s early 2000 spot if i remember. I knew a bunch of people that went there. I stayed in jersey but hit NYC a lot when it was good. NYC in the late 90’s early 2000’s was i credible. The club scene was insane as was the music.
It was all about peace, love, and ecstacy. And juice.

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Originally Posted by Shellackhead
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Originally Posted by Lenox
“Young, dumb, and disorganized”
Thats why they are dangerous. Put a low IQ person around a weapon and there will be destruction.


That is a person of every city in America and around the world you mention.

I am saying as an Organized group of A-Holes and youth in my area, ( all Hispanic gangs / other than Latin Kings) - these guys are like tomato, olives or potato and easily crushed.

Yeah but they have a huge pool of recruitment in local high schools/middle schools.


Thats where it begins for most criminals.
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I agree DuesPaid , MS hasn’t committed a LI murder since 2017

They are no doubt a problem but media pumps us up on the fear factor to drive ratings and politicians will use them for a political reason.


There ya Go..... Right on DB


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Originally Posted by jackdempsey1930
Long island is probably second to only Staten Island in mob activity and gang culture is a regular thing. Living in Rockaway and all over Long Island my whole life i can tell you from first hand knowledge. Every town has its own issues/gangs and there are a lot of towns on long Island. The major gangs are all here and powerful versions. Before the springfield, Mass Latin Kings east coast boss bust the east coast boss resided in Huntington Station, L.I. After the feds swept the Kings out of H.S its an understatement to say its MS territory. MS does without a doubt fill the void left by any gang in any neighborhood it seems. But MS definitely has its rivals but what's scary is how fast there growing power in the jails. In Central Islip, a notoriously black gang area compared to Brentwood (its neighbor) which has always been spanish gang territory, it's now dominate. The bloods are there biggest rivalry but they want no part of MS, to violent, they will kill you. My friend told me a pretty intimidating story about the Notorious Brentwood MS and i can tell you that if you have an issue with MS, even a young member over anything...he is going to report it and it is immediately investigated and action taken if your in the wrong towards even its lowest ranking members. I mean tons of wanna be are coming to mess you up and you better be gone and not be recognized or have them know anything about you. As they grow in power and $$ there finding ways to find out about you and that's got long island shook up. They are like the early Sicilians in America im guessing (clannish, untrusting towards other ethnicities, never show emotion). I worked at the brentwood market 22 yrs ago when the wave of a Salvadorans to Brentwood was getting started and unlike Mexicans who truly flooded Long Island (Farmingville) and for the most part are hard working, good natured people, the Salvadorans were mean and shady at first. They called me in America, my home country, "Americana" in a dickhead way. Ofcourse they only did this when in groups because alone they didn't speak or dare to smile. But in groups they are like piranha and dangerous. The silent owner in the market R.I.P and my ex girls pops a notorious Italian fellow during a walk through the establishment with me one day happen to take issue with the state downs and shadyness of one imparticular Salvadoran. The man was then introduced to Mr. Milk-crate off the top of the head and that for the time set an example for the rest of them before they were organized. But nowadays that would NOT fly.
I live in Brentwood lol, Northside & Southside of Brentwood is infested by them. Over here they’re basically touching blocks with A Bloods set called L Bloxk/Goonsquad. They were the people that Kayla (MS13 victim in 2016) used to hang out with.

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Originally Posted by Lenox
I also think that salvadorans have a defect in their brains. Im serious. I never heard of a great savadoran inventor..lol
Serious, low IQ is an understatement.

Yeah they’re not very smart, they’re basically work horse. You want a guy to work 65 hours in five days? Jose Argueta from Morazan is your guy

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Yeah, we have some over here. They are dumb as rocks but will do manual labor unless they are too busy getting tattoo’s on their faces. They need some tough italian kids to fuck em up one at a time. Imagine a salvadoran trying to pull that ms13 shit in howard beach or bensonhurst back in the day??? They would of been chased to mars.

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