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Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" #633000
02/04/12 03:51 AM
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Well, it is pretty clear. The numbers speak for themselves. Karen is the most hated figure on "Mob Wives," with 45%, or 153 respondents, saying so, according to a poll I ran on my website, Cosa Nostra News.

That is out of a total pool of 334 respondents. Ramona Rizzo is close behind, with 32%, or 108 voters, saying they hate her.

Anyone could vote - for one or two wives, and they could change their votes up until the poll closed.

I am a bit surprised that Renee could be seen as most loved in that the least amount of people "hate" her -- 38 people, or 11% of the voters.

Drita and Carla did much better than Gravano and Rizzo, about neck and neck.

Rizzo should take note: After appearing on only three episodes, she is the second most-hated "wife" though I don't know which mobster she is married to. Or Karen, for that matter.

This of course provoked a response from one reader - a Karen and/or Ramona fan, no doubt.

"So what mobsters are Renee and Drita married to?" he commented. He thought he had me for unfairly singling out Ramona and Karen for not really fitting in with the show's theme. Well, the facts are facts... I knew them and he didn't.

But really, does anyone out there still NOT KNOW that Junior Pagan -- a Bonanno associate once tight with Renee's dad, TG Graziano,until Pagan flipped -- was married to Renee? Okay, they are divorced now, but Renee is a Mob Wife. On to Drita.

Of Drita's soon-to-be ex, Lee D'Avanzo, we know the following: In December of 2001, "the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York indicted members of the New Springville Boys gang from Staten Island, which prosecutors alleged was a mob farm team for the Bonanno and Colombo crime families.

"The crew was charged with burglarizing over 30 night-deposit boxes at banks across the country, netting $240,000, committing push-in robberies, loan sharking and money laundering. They were also charged with hijacking a truckload of marijuana worth over $1 million, and selling drugs in their neighborhood. Members included leader Lee D'Avanzo..."

Indicted with Lee were Ned Bilali, Robert Catanese, Randy (Randy The Jew) Gordon, Francis Costanzo, William "Big Billy" Fauci, Joseph "Fat Joe" Gambino, and Edward Shamah.

So... sorry, pal, but Drita's a legit Mob Wife too, as opposed to a Mob Daughter or Mob Grandaughter...

Here's the poll results:

Which Mob Wife Do You Hate the Most???
Karen 153 (45%)
Renee 38 (11%)
Drita 61 (18%)
Carla 60 (17%)
R.Rizzo 108 (32%)

Votes so far: 334
Poll closed

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Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: EVL] #633064
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karen and ramonna are my favorites lol


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Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: EVL] #633172
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Gotta go with Big Ange as my favorite

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Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: EVL] #633175
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well i will say this...i think that big ang would probably be the most fun to go out and drink with and kick back and shoot the shit with.


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Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: phatmatress] #634153
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Kin of Sammy The Bull Gravano's victims seek profits from his daughter's new book :

The outraged families of murderous mob underboss Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano’s gangland victims want a whack at the profits from his daughter’s upcoming memoir.

The Daily News has learned they are enlisting the Arizona state attorney general to go after Karen Gravano’s earnings from “Mob Daughter” — due out on Valentine’s Day.

“It’s harrowing to hear Karen Gravano boast week after week on her reality show ‘Mob Wives’ that violence is ‘in my bloodline,’ ” Laura Garofalo wrote in a letter to the Arizona AG.

She was 17 when her dad, Edward, was slain by Gravano in 1990.

“She continues to utilize her and her father’s criminal enterprises to lure viewers and generate revenue for herself and VH1,” Garofalo said.

The Arizona prosecutor’s office helped the families split $420,000 from The Bull’s own bestselling literary effort “Underboss,” written by noted author Peter Maas.

Sammy Bull did just five years in jail for 19 mob murders as a reward for testifying against late Gambino boss John Gotti.

The rat went right back to his life of crime dealing drugs after he was released and is back in prison for 20 years.

Karen Gravano and her brother, Gerard, were convicted in 2001 of participating in his Ecstasy drug ring in Arizona.

Karen Gravano did not return a call for comment Thursday.

“My brother was killed by Sammy, then he was killed again when he wrote his book and now he’s being killed a third time in her book,” said Roseanne Massa, whose brother Michael DeBatt was shot dead in 1987 on Salvatore Gravano’s orders.

“Having our family members killed over and over again is not a way to hold to our hearts the memories that we have.”

Massa and several families had sued Salvatore Gravano unsuccessfully under the New York state Son of Sam law because he was convicted of federal, not state crimes.

But they prevailed in Arizona, which has a similar statute. Eight families received checks for $52,500 from Gravano’s assets seized by authorities investigating the drug ring.

Garofalo has also written to New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and a former federal prosecutor who now works for Gov. Cuomo.

Garofalo and Massa have been seething since Karen Gravano began appearing in the VH1 reality show “Mob Wives” two years ago with the daughters of a Bonanno capo and wives of several mob wanna-bes.

In an interview with The News for her upcoming book, Karen Gravano said the public’s fascination with the Gambino crime family in its heyday hasn’t abated.

“There’s never been another John Gotti and there’s never been another Sammy (The Bull) Gravano,” she said.

Garofalo acknowledges collecting a dime from Karen Gravano is an uphill battle.

“We hope at least to get the law changed so it has more teeth,” she said.

jmarzulli@nydailynews.com



I hope that are able to somehow get the law changed and that they do get the money. As it stands right now, under New York State law they can't because, unlike her father, Karen Gravano is not profiting off of a state crime that she was convicted of committing.



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Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: Don Cardi] #634173
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KAREN IS A WANNABE! She wants to be all tough like her father was, but she is a little cry baby girl, that tries too hard to act like a gangster. I hate how she went back and forth from claiming she's a gangster chick to saying she's against the life style.

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: EVL] #634569
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Ramona might be the hottest but i think she might think she thinks she is hot shit so that brings her down . Plus she talks awful

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: EVL] #634684
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Mob Wives is another attempt to embarrass Italian-Americans, like Jersey Shore, but that's another topic.

Ramona being on this show reminds me that Lefty's widow is said to still be living in the same apartment Lefty lived in for decades. But Ramona can't be from the same bloodline as Lefty's second wife.

So who is Ramona the daughter of? Lefty's son who overdoses in the movie Donnie Brasco? Or one of Lefty's daughters?

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #634696
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A great question Skinny. I think Romana is the daughter of the drug addict, but that would mean her last name wouldn't be Rizzo like on the show, so maybe a daughter of Lefty's, but which one.

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: NJBoy55] #634702
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
A great question Skinny. I think Romana is the daughter of the drug addict, but that would mean her last name wouldn't be Rizzo like on the show, so maybe a daughter of Lefty's, but which one.


She's very secretive, only saying that Karen Gravano is like a cousin and of course her grandfather if Lefty.

It just hit me that in Donnie Brasco, he talks about Lefty's daughter working a stand at San Genaro. He also talks about how she hooked up with a wannabe who got addicted to drugs and stole from the mob and that word on the street was that Lefty got the contract.

Ramona portrays herself as loving and being close to her grandfather but,

this begs the question:

Did Lefty whack Ramona's father? If so, that would be an amazing story for VH1 to tell.

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #634706
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I don't think Lefty whacked his cokehead son. If so, we would have known about it through Joe Pistone. Right after Pistone was taken off the job by the FBI Lefty was put in jail right after. Plus, from what I've read is he loved his son.

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: NJBoy55] #634714
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I'm saying that Lefty whacked his son-in-law who is also Ramona's father. That's what I'm beginning to suspect until we know more about Ramona.

Remember, Lefty's daughters married wiseguys. One stole from the mob. Lefty got the contract and the son-in-law just disappeared. Pistone said word on the street was Lefty did it.

It's very possible that the son-in-law Lefty whacked, is the father of Ramona.

Re: Karen Gravano Most Hated of the "Mob Wives" [Re: Skinny_Vinny] #634720
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I agree with you now. That makes total sense.

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It might explain why Ramona won't talk about her parents.

Her selling point is that she's Lefty's granddaughter. If it's revealed that her own grandfather killed her father, well that's just creepy.

Meanwhile, Lefty's poor widow, who is seen in Donnie Brasco, has nothing.

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all the ladies talk about how they knew each other and been friends for years. Wonder how much truth is to that and between which ones . Karen and Ramona call each other cousins but wonder if there families were that close.

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Originally Posted By: sickstylemob12
all the ladies talk about how they knew each other and been friends for years. Wonder how much truth is to that and between which ones . Karen and Ramona call each other cousins but wonder if there families were that close.
im pretty sure they were that close. ramonna's dad was a made gambino guy.


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Tonight on Mob Wives, Ramona Rizzo revealed to her kids that her current boyfriend is in jail.

Of course, no name is given.

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Originally Posted By: Skinny_Vinny
Tonight on Mob Wives, Ramona Rizzo revealed to her kids that her current boyfriend is in jail.

Of course, no name is given.


her bf is Gambino soldier Joseph “Joe Boy” Sclafani

http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/2012/02/dea-has-uncovered-mob-linked-drug.html


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